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Games will look and run better on PS6 due to popularity optimization, lack of any hybrid features bogging the system down, and the use of a custom upscaler PSSR3 instead of using the generic FSR that AMD provides to XBOX.

And PS6 will be cheaper I would guess. $999 for PS6 and $1199.99 for Helix. If Helix is a fully open PC box I raise that guess to $1499.99 because it won't have any console subsidy. $1199.99 is console pricing for Helix not PC pricing.
 
Okay, I’m starting believe that Helix is actually real and won’t be canceled. If Microsoft can undercut Sony on price and stay the hell away from gimmicks like Kinect and NFC controllers then we are so back.

They are not going to undercut them on price, especially if they allow sideloading of other storefronts. They are almost charging for a Series X what Sony is charging for a PS5 Pro atm.
 
They are not going to undercut them on price, especially if they allow sideloading of other storefronts. They are almost charging for a Series X what Sony is charging for a PS5 Pro atm.
I was at a GameStop yesterday looking around and I saw their pre-owned Series X were $709.99 for Digital and $749.99 for Disc. Ain't no way.
 
How does this compare to current day GPUs?

Is the gulf the same as the XSX and PS5?
Bigger difference than XSX and PS5 (about 40%, where XSXvsPS5 was ~17%).
Whether it translates to actual performance will be a different story. Have to see how heavy the windows and hybrid OS is for Helix. Also have to see how much memory each one has and what the clock speeds end up being.

5070Ti vs 5080 is a rough estimate.
 
How does this compare to current day GPUs?

Is the gulf the same as the XSX and PS5?
the RX 9070 XT (RDNA4) has 49 teraflops @ 64 compute units while the RDNA 5 PS6 GPU is supposed to have anywhere from 40 to 54 CUs at the alleged 40 tflops, Take that with a huge grain of salt and with flopflation in mind
 
It seems like a huge differences, but the helix is a hybrid. I feel Sony once again has the edge.
 
It makes no sense to buy either at this point you might aswell spend big upfront on a decent gaming pc and buy your games on steam where games are 20-30% cheaper than console rrp over a few years of buying games you will have recouped that investment back on cheaper games.
That is factually not true. Look up the current PSN sale, there are big AAA games for 5 bucks. Even the switch has steep sales, so stop using this outdated metric, that steam sales are better than the others.
 
That is factually not true. Look up the current PSN sale, there are big AAA games for 5 bucks. Even the switch has steep sales, so stop using this outdated metric, that steam sales are better than the others.

its $/£69.99 on psn by the way
 
Bigger difference than XSX and PS5 (about 40%, where XSXvsPS5 was ~17%).
Whether it translates to actual performance will be a different story. Have to see how heavy the windows and hybrid OS is for Helix. Also have to see how much memory each one has and what the clock speeds end up being.

5070Ti vs 5080 is a rough estimate.
That is not a significant difference in performance.
 
the RX 9070 XT (RDNA4) has 49 teraflops @ 64 compute units while the RDNA 5 PS6 GPU is supposed to have anywhere from 40 to 54 CUs at the alleged 40 tflops, Take that with a huge grain of salt and with flopflation in mind
That doesn't sound too great, especially if the new Xbox is notably more powerful. Better to delay it another year for a more powerful GPU.
 
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