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Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Even if they sold the IP, Death Stranding continues being a Sony first party game because Sony continues and will continue publishing Death Stranding, Death Stranding Director's Cut and Death Stranding 2 on PlayStation. MLB, Destiny 2, Marvel's Spider-Man, Helldivers 2 are also PlayStation... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Death Stranding 1, Director's Cut and DS2 are PlayStation first party games because are published there by the platform holder: Sony. Independently of who owns the IP. Kojipro isn't owned by Sony, so it's a 3rd party studio. But works in 2nd party games for Sony and MS, so it's a 2nd party... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
I don't twist anything and that image fits exactly with that I said because games and developers are not the same thing, definitions are different. Games: First party game: the one published by the platform holder Second party game: first party game developed by studio not owned by the... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
The Shift Up conference to announce their IPO, Shift Up's CFO mentioned that they estimated to exceed 1M copies sold, that isn't a public sales number announcement by Sony: https://m.gamemeca.com/view.php?gid=1750274 Here you have a Shift Up legal document for their government and investors... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Stellar Blade is first party because it's published by Sony, the platform holder. That page 10 (11) is only a recap of the publicly announced sales numbers for their first party games. Notice that games like Gran Turismo 7 or Concord aren't there, do you really think they are 3rd party? No... -
News Sony CFO Hiroki Totoki says PlayStation is reforming currently their gaming business
There is nothing new in what Totoki said. Totoki was just explaining what we already knew they have been doing over a year: to make some cuts and optimizations to improve profitability (fired people, shut down a few productions and studios etc.), reorganizing SIE into two groups each one with... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Dude, I'm a gamedev since almost 20 years ago with many friends in many top companies, I'm in multiple game preservation groups and opened a gaming history related museum exhibition last week. I know what I'm talking about. -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
The entire industry always said the same than me: 3rd party games are those not published by the platform holder. And 1st party games are those published by the platform holder. There are Ghostbusters games even for the NES. But as far as I know, the most recent one (the one I was thinking... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Yes, they are first party because were published by the platform holders. And yes, before the studios were acquired they also were 2nd party games, because 2nd party games always also are first party games. And yes, when acquired they stop being both 1st and 2nd party and start being only 1st... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
I often write my posts while editing multiple times to add multiple quotes, so maybe my post wasn't complet and I forgot some case like gears. It isn't my definition, it's the one used in the industry: published by the platform holder = 1st party Not published by the platform holder = 3rd... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
If a game's publisher is the platform holder it is 1st party. If not it is 3rd party. Meaning, any game published by Sony on PlayStation is a first party game. Any game published on PS by any company not owned by Sony is 3rd party. Any game published by Sony in a platform not owned by Sony is... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
First party means published by the platform holder. 3rd party means not published by the platform holder. Independently of who owns the IPs. So when published for PS devices, games like Marvel's Iron Man VR, Marvel's Spider-Man, Ghostbusters, Stellar Blade or Wipeout were first party because... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
Yes, some people say PS is dead but the factual, objective numbers to measure its performance say the opposite. -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
First party games are those published by the platform holder, independently of how owns the IP. Second party games are the first party games (so published by the platform holder) whose lead dev studio isn't owned by the platform holder, independently of who owns the IP. Third party games are... -
Discussion What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
A game is first party when it's published by the platform holder, independently if that platform holder owns the IP or not. Stellar Blade, Helldivers 2, Death Stranding and Uncharted are PlayStation first party games because Sony published them. On PC they are third party because Sony doesn't... -
Discussion Trump’s Proposed Tariffs Will Hit Gamers Hard (40% raise e.g. $1000 PS5 Pro)
Sony is a Japanese company and SIE has its HQ in USA. PS5 is manufactured in multiple countries being China one of them, and uses components from different countries being China one of them. I highly doubt it would be affected by these tariffs in case they end being applied (I think they won't...- Yurinka
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Discussion Sony FY2024 Q2 Earnings Announcement | OT
Nah, we can see their platform is growing in their active userbase, while their hardware sales are almost performing like PS4. Plus there are different things that lead to think that PS5 will have a stronger 2nd half of its lifetime than PS4: PS5 has way more previous gen users who still have... -
Discussion Sony FY2024 Q2 Earnings Announcement | OT
I'm watching the webcast now, I saw these slides: PSN users (who played games or used services) MAU up 8% YoY 14% increase in monthly gameplay hours vs previous year PS Plus revenue up 18% vs previous year Astro Bot sold 1.5M copies as of November 3rd, 37% of "new" (people who didn't buy... -
Playstation Sony says Astro Bot is contributing significantly to the widening of the PlayStation user base
Yes. They also reported that their first party games generated outside PlayStation 120297M yen ($787.62M) during the last year (the 4 most recent quarters) and keeps growing. Soon they'll generate over a Billion per year. This is a financial report for their investors and regulators, they...