2022 might go down as the worst year ever for Xbox 1st party game release

[PropellerEar]

These cards accelerate alot of professional work tasks as well as games (and there is an overlap).

Of course there is, even I have RTX in my workstation at work, but is this whatever reason? ...and no publisher will target games for whatever reason people.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Of course there is, even I have RTX in my workstation at work, but is this whatever reason? ...and no publisher will target games for whatever reason people.

I can't read your mind and guess what "whatever reason" is for you.

I know that part of the "whatever reason" for many people include other demanding tasks.... Then it's another device that can play demanding games, if you happen to be a gamer it will take time away from the consoles (you should at least try it).

 

[PropellerEar]

I can't read your mind and guess what "whatever reason" is for you.

I know that part of the "whatever reason" for many people include other demanding tasks.... Then it's another device that can play demanding games, if you happen to be a gamer it will take time away from the consoles (you should at least try it).

It's not a term I introduced here.
The "Whatever reason" people are not a significant group to make games for, those who spend 3000$ on a gaming PC, knowingly to play games are.

(I have a gaming PC at home, but guess what l bought my GPU knowing that I will play games)

 

[Deleted member 13]

Just Spider-man ??

Why so disingenuous?
Whatever reason but not gaming?

People buy high-end graphics cards to play games. People who buy high-end graphics cards for whatever reason are insignificant group.

People like me use the graphics card for professional work but I am in the minority. People like DF, IGN, etc.. also buys highend graphics cards. Film and Game developers buy high-end graphics cards for testing their applications. It's not just gamers who buy highend graphics cards.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

It's not a term I introduced here.
The "Whatever reason" people are not a significant group to make games for, those who spend 3000$ on a gaming PC, knowingly to play games are.

(I have a gaming PC at home, but guess what l bought my GPU knowing that I will play games)

Kids have been playing games in their parents'work computer since there has been computers in the home.

I gamed on 8-bit computers that were owned by a friend s dad before anything back when I was pretty young.

I don't know what the number is, but they are out there.

 

[DarkMage619]

Keeping in mind the limited release of PSNOW and non existent backing & promotion. It was unimportant to Sony till the restructure. The game has changed drastically.

No amount of marketing can make a bad product good. Game pass was successful because it remains the best deal in gaming.

it was, and it wasn't a good service. That's also completely irrelevant to this topic.

Nonsense but no one ever accused you of presenting convincing arguments.

Yep, regurgitated marketing points. Are you paid for astroturfing or are you just doing it for free? They didn't make anything look better, they had a service that was pretty much abandoned and decided to release a revamped PS Plus with that service added if you're willing to pay an increased fee. It's even better for me, as a gamer, because it's cheaper overall (If I want PSNow like features).

Nice accusations of being paid by MS. Typical refuge when you lack a compelling argument. Go right on thinking the only reason Game pass was successful was because MS was paying people off over it being a superior offering.

They did? Sony had over 47M people subscribed to PS Plus. Those people can now get a plan that includes a better version of PS Now embedded in the service. Sony absolutely had the biggest subscription service, period. Microsoft does not release numbers for both gamepass and Live Gold, so we're all left to speculate on those, but since uncle Phil did not scream from the top of a mountain that they have more subscribers... you do the math, if astroturf bootcamp allows you.

Yes they had more people subscribed to PS+ to be able to play games online. Bigger install base more people paying to play online games. It's not magic. It had nothing to do with why Game pass a service that was more expensive, had more subscribers than PS Now.

I'm happy that Sony combining the services gives you some sense of victory but it doesn't change the fundamentals that Game pass remains the superior service no matter how many Sony fans name call people who are getting a better deal.

 

[Shmunter]

No amount of marketing can make a bad product good. Game pass was successful because it remains the best deal in gaming.

You’re mixing past and present tense in the one statement.

Anyway, Gamepass was and is aggressively pushed with $1 deals and all sorts of Doritos style giveaways - not only because it is a value proposition. Xbox even tried strong arming people into ultimate by doubling Gold price but people aren’t that dumb and revolted throwing a spanner into the uptake.

As far as value, Sony offering seems to be cheaper. Day 1 Xbox games don’t really hold much water with the current output, but Activision and Bathesda may change that going forward….but will the price remain the same….

 

[Gamernyc78]

You’re mixing past and present tense in the one statement.

Anyway, Gamepass was and is aggressively pushed with $1 deals and all sorts of Doritos style giveaways - not only because it is a value proposition. Xbox even tried strong arming people into ultimate by doubling Gold price but people aren’t that dumb and revolted throwing a spanner into the uptake.

As far as value, Sony offering seems to be cheaper. Day 1 Xbox games don’t really hold much water with the current output, but Activision and Bathesda may change that going forward….but will the price remain the same….

Nah those games will just get lower budgets. Watch Microsoft dilute the fuck out of those dev outputs just to make sure it fits game pass structure and doesnt financially hurt the gaming division (Call of Duty will be the exception of course and still probably have same budgets, hopefully!)

 

[Shmunter]

Nah those games will just get lower budgets. Watch Microsoft dilute the fuck out of those dev outputs just to make sure it fits game pass structure and doesbt financially hurt the gaming division.

*shudder*

 

[Lord Mittens]

You’re mixing past and present tense in the one statement.

Anyway, Gamepass was and is aggressively pushed with $1 deals and all sorts of Doritos style giveaways - not only because it is a value proposition. Xbox even tried strong arming people into ultimate by doubling Gold price but people aren’t that dumb and revolted throwing a spanner into the uptake.

As far as value, Sony offering seems to be cheaper. Day 1 Xbox games don’t really hold much water with the current output, but Activision and Bathesda may change that going forward….but will the price remain the same….

Gamepass will get a strong bolster from the act/blizz deal for there existing titles.
PS+ is well worth for the already excellent games Sony have in there first party line up, and they arent all released onto the service yet.

 

[azertydu91]

You’re mixing past and present tense in the one statement.

Anyway, Gamepass was and is aggressively pushed with $1 deals and all sorts of Doritos style giveaways - not only because it is a value proposition. Xbox even tried strong arming people into ultimate by doubling Gold price but people aren’t that dumb and revolted throwing a spanner into the uptake.

As far as value, Sony offering seems to be cheaper. Day 1 Xbox games don’t really hold much water with the current output, but Activision and Bathesda may change that going forward….but will the price remain the same….

Was it done on purpose?If it was , well done.

 

[Old Gamer]

People like me use the graphics card for professional work but I am in the minority. People like DF, IGN, etc.. also buys highend graphics cards. Film and Game developers buy high-end graphics cards for testing their applications. It's not just gamers who buy highend graphics cards.

We use beefy GPUs at my work as well.

Although the use case is valid, we do not represent the majority, I'm afraid. These cards are marketed for gamers, and the use of these cards still is primarily for dedicated (not incidental) gaming, I would say.

 

[Deleted member 13]

We use beefy GPUs at my work as well.

Although the use case is valid, we do not represent the majority, I'm afraid. These cards are marketed for gamers, and the use of these cards still is primarily for dedicated (not incidental) gaming, I would say.

I'd love to be able to think that's the case but film studios have renderfarms now with GPUs in them for CUDA computation not to mention the tech companies like mine using them. All our computers at work use the Quadro class cards (which is even more expensive). I'd love to actually see those numbers from PC gamers and the actual industry using them for business. But you are probably right.

 

[Sharinghack]

No amount of marketing can make a bad product good. Game pass was successful because it remains the best deal in gaming.

My girlfriend sent me this picture a few days ago.