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I mean uncharted movie while not perfect enjoyable enough to watch brought like 5x more profit then the Indiana movie. Indiana franchise is essentially dead making 1st person wasn’t the call its should’ve been an uncharted clone 3rd person with even 2-4 player coop to entice more gamers to try the game w friends.

This to me just shows how those Bandai release of PS Japan ip have been doing seeing Lego horizon did on par w concord in the charts where looking at the Lego horizon & Bandai releases doing 25k-50k if not over counting but overall a flop & just undermining the PS platform & harming PS competitiveness long term
 
Days Gone already sold a 5+million on PS4. The remaster just wasnt needed as it already got a free 60fps PS5 patch and was given away with PS+
That's the whole point of the post I made earlier. I'm not arguing that the original didn't sell decently but no matter how you spin it, the remaster was a failure and it directly goes against what Shuhei was proclaiming all this time about these remasters being a necessity to fund new AAA projects. The majority of the assumed <150k sales (taken from comparing the Indiana Jones' performance) were probably the $10 upgrades. That's not even a droplet on the side of the bucket.
 
That's the whole point of the post I made earlier. I'm not arguing that the original didn't sell decently but no matter how you spin it, the remaster was a failure and it directly goes against what Shuhei was proclaiming all this time about these remasters being a necessity to fund new AAA projects. The majority of the assumed <150k sales (taken from comparing the Indiana Jones' performance) were probably the $10 upgrades. That's not even a droplet on the side of the bucket.
Not too sure about which charts you are referencing, but if they are the ones of the top downloads on the PSstore , they clearly state that upgrades are not included, so the <150000 are in reality 49.90 $ new copies, while the number of 10 $ upgrade remain completely undisclosed.
 
Indy was screaming out for a third person action game like uncharted or tomb raider the fact they made first person was the wrong decision in my opinion.
MS Gaming just doesn't know how to make fun Gameplay. Same as with Starfield.

The moment i saw that first-person gameplay with the terrible whip mechanik and fist-combat, i knew this will not fly well.
 
Surprising, I actually thought it would do quite well... Let's see over the longer term
Not really surprising to me. The IP is a niche IP in 2025. The game play is an immersive sim style, which is also a niche. What you get when you put those two elements together is a niche of a niche. If they just did an Uncharted clone that was more action oriented, this game would have sold 5x the copies.
 
Not really surprising to me. The IP is a niche IP in 2025. The game play is an immersive sim style, which is also a niche. What you get when you put those two elements together is a niche of a niche. If they just did an Uncharted clone that was more action oriented, this game would have sold 5x the copies.
Yeah but I did think the absence of Uncharted might fuel some sales... Tomb raider too
 
MS Gaming just doesn't know how to make fun Gameplay. Same as with Starfield.

The moment i saw that first-person gameplay with the terrible whip mechanik and fist-combat, i knew this will not fly well.
MachineGames is a master at making first-person games. Only console gamers don't prefer first-person games. If Sony made a first-person game, you would only praise the game if it was Sony's, but when it's someone else who makes a first-person game, you criticize it.
 
Surprising, I actually thought it would do quite well... Let's see over the longer term
It’s a game i‘m looking into when it’s dirt cheap. Not paying full price for a fake retail.

So i‘m sure sales are going to improve down the line but at a much lower price.
 
MachineGames is a master at making first-person games. Only console gamers don't prefer first-person games. If Sony made a first-person game, you would only praise the game if it was Sony's, but when it's someone else who makes a first-person game, you criticize it.
Nah. A lot of PS fans don’t like first person games. If ND made a first person game, PS fans would be very disappointed.
 
Not really surprising to me. The IP is a niche IP in 2025. The game play is an immersive sim style, which is also a niche. What you get when you put those two elements together is a niche of a niche. If they just did an Uncharted clone that was more action oriented, this game would have sold 5x the copies.
This generation doesn’t care for Indiana Jones. Todd Howard wanted to make it because he grew up loving the films when he was a kid in the 80’s. This game would have sold much better 40 years ago. Also. You’re right. Immersive sims games aren’t that popular.
 
Nah. A lot of PS fans don’t like first person games. If ND made a first person game, PS fans would be very disappointed.
There's nothing wrong with playing a first-person game if it's done well. PlayStation gamers should give first person games chance.
 
Indiana Jones being first person was the right decision because it's focus isn't on action, it's on puzzles, platforming and exploration. It's basically more of an immersive sim than an action adventure game. As for lack of sales, it's due to not being day one in my opinion.
 
This is normal for Xbox game sales.
Why would an "Xbox exclusive" game that doesn't sell on Xbox sell on PlayStation?

Gears and Forza sell because of the novelty factor, as soon as everyone interested buys them they will realize how mediocre they are.

I think releasing Gears 1 remaster for 40USD is a mistake, no one will buy 2 and 3 anymore. If they had sold the remastered trilogy for 70USD they would have fooled the players.
 
I think it may sell a few millions in PS, probably around 1M+ the first month. I think the 150K number is total bullshit.
 
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