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Discussion [Alinea Analytics] Forza Horizon 5 has sold 1.2 million copies on PlayStation in less than 2 weeks
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I think the numbers are fantastic for a 3-4 year late port especially considering it was being sold at full price and more.
They are, but imagine how well it would sell day one. I'm thinking an easy four million on PS5 alone.
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True.
Low numbers.
But the biggest issue that they are accurate with the overall player data (not sales on PS5) we have:
April 24: 45,090,000
April 29: 45,813,181
April 30: 45,903,672
May 2: 46,117,299
Is it possible to have 1.2m PS5 sales on May 5? Very hard to not say near impossible.
What looks like they are using players for all platforms as PS5 sales imo.
Sales for PS5 are lower than 1.2m… perhaps even lower than 1m… after these 1.2m accounts new players from PC, Xbox, Gamepass and PS5… plus sales are usually 20-30% lower than sales.
BTW the game was on TOP10 Steam Top Sales in the last 2 weeks too.
But the biggest issue that they are accurate with the overall player data (not sales on PS5) we have:
April 24: 45,090,000
April 29: 45,813,181
April 30: 45,903,672
May 2: 46,117,299
Is it possible to have 1.2m PS5 sales on May 5? Very hard to not say near impossible.
What looks like they are using players for all platforms as PS5 sales imo.
Sales for PS5 are lower than 1.2m… perhaps even lower than 1m… after these 1.2m accounts new players from PC, Xbox, Gamepass and PS5… plus sales are usually 20-30% lower than sales.
BTW the game was on TOP10 Steam Top Sales in the last 2 weeks too.
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For a racing game? Doubtful
The genre isn’t big.
1.2M for a late port is really impressive, probably rivals what it sold on Xbox and pc
For a has never been a good seller. The entire for a franchise is still around 20million while gt is over 90mil. Gt7 alone has sold more than half of what the entire froza franchise did and gt7 + sport alone has outsold the for a franchise. That 1.2 million on ps is probably more in sales than Xbox got for forza horizon 5 and motor sport on pc and Xbox combined.
The lowest Steam estimates has Forza Horizon 5 at 5.37m.
So let’s not present 1.2m players across all platforms is better than what it is.
Steam estimate based on what? I don’t believe it’s anywhere close to 5M on
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1.2M is around 50M in revenue on PS5, likely covering half the dev cost….for a late port
It’s a very strong showing
It is not 1.2m on PS5…
It is 1.2m new players across all platforms including GP.
About Steam numbers.
- ~5.37 M by SteamSpy
- ~6.10 M by PlayTracker
- ~6.61 M by VG Insights
- ~6.91 M by Gamalytic
The amount of players being added recently due to GP or steam now is insignificant since it’s already been there for 4 years
Nearly all of that jump in user count is due to ps5
Those steam estimates are BS, it had a peak of 88k ccu’s
It is in the TOP10 on Steam the last two weeks.
And its PLAYERS not SALES.
Sales is probably around 800k... of course guesstimate based on these 1.2m players across all platforms.
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Some numbers I compiled from pics from the leaderboard...
Jan 4: 43m
Mar 18: 44.5m
Apr 15: 45.0m
Apr 24: 45.1m -- before PS5 early access
Apr 29: 45.8m -- PS5 official release
Apr 30: 45.9m
May 1: 46.0m
May 2: 46.1m
May 4: 46.4m
It gives a better ideia how it is growing with PS5.
It moved from ~500k a month without PS5 to these 1.2m half a month with PS5.
Players of course... how many of these are sales is unknown... but when I fetched GTS data from over 16 million players the official sales where around 12m... around 25% of the players where not a game sold (probably family account sharing, digital sharing with PS primary, rent, lend, 2nd-hand sales, etc).
I always thought the Forza Horizon 5 leaderboard is too inflated but there is Gamepass that indeed inflate numbers...
But I wonder if actual sales are higher than 10 million... Steam seems to be at 5-6 million and the 3-4 million on Xbox can make it 10 million but I wonder if it indeed reached these 10 million... perhaps PS5 adding 800-900k made them break 10 million? Or maybe I'm overlooking it and Xbox sold way more than I think and it is closer to 15 million than 10 million...
Jan 4: 43m
Mar 18: 44.5m
Apr 15: 45.0m
Apr 24: 45.1m -- before PS5 early access
Apr 29: 45.8m -- PS5 official release
Apr 30: 45.9m
May 1: 46.0m
May 2: 46.1m
May 4: 46.4m
It gives a better ideia how it is growing with PS5.
It moved from ~500k a month without PS5 to these 1.2m half a month with PS5.
Players of course... how many of these are sales is unknown... but when I fetched GTS data from over 16 million players the official sales where around 12m... around 25% of the players where not a game sold (probably family account sharing, digital sharing with PS primary, rent, lend, 2nd-hand sales, etc).
I always thought the Forza Horizon 5 leaderboard is too inflated but there is Gamepass that indeed inflate numbers...
But I wonder if actual sales are higher than 10 million... Steam seems to be at 5-6 million and the 3-4 million on Xbox can make it 10 million but I wonder if it indeed reached these 10 million... perhaps PS5 adding 800-900k made them break 10 million? Or maybe I'm overlooking it and Xbox sold way more than I think and it is closer to 15 million than 10 million...
That wouldn't surprise me if they did. It's a console game first and foremost, similar to how AC Shadows is more of a console game than a PC games. Forza Horizon 5 was released on Xbox One, Xbox Series S|X and Xbox for Windows PC on the Microsoft Store.
I just think if the game have sold between 15-20m there will be tons of articles talking about it being one of the best selling racing games ever.
But MS keep pushing the 45m players instead that.
That is what hold me from going bigger with my estimates.
Yeah, I have no idea. I just know when I play, plenty of peeps on with me.