Ampere Analysis / Console Sales: PS5 (21.7 million), Xbox Series X|S (13.8 million)

[Bernd Lauert]

So these console estimate numbers by Ampere Analysis are correct then, and you believe them, and they are not lowballed like you first thought? Got it

No, just saying that your "analysis" is a joke while Piers at least tries to get to a real estimate I still think he's lowballing.

 

[Dr Bass]

Lol, suddenly Piers and Ampere Analysis became unreliable and biased? Haven't you been treating Ampere's numbers as gospel on this forum for a while now?

Receipts:

What a thorough torching.

This gen is already “over” in terms of sales competition. Doesn’t really matter though. I just want great games from all the platforms.

 

[Heisenberg007]

No, just saying that your "analysis" is a joke while Piers at least tries to get to a real estimate I still think he's lowballing.

So he wasn't overestimating the numbers when he was talking about Gamepass?

But he is underestimating the numbers when he is now talking about the low Xbox console sales?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

So he wasn't overestimating the numbers when he was talking about Gamepass?

He got the Gamepass number from Microsoft. We're talking about XBLG. And no, compared to your "0" number, he was not overestimating.

But he is underestimating the numbers when he is now talking about the low Xbox console sales?

I think so, yes. Other analysts have the number quite a bit higher. And before you try for another desperate gotcha, I'm not talking about VGChartz

 

[DynamiteCop]

Fake news, the Xbox 360 was already at 15+ million at this point and recently Satya Nadella said the Series consoles had outstripped even it as their fastest selling consoles.

This is low ball fiction bullshit.

 

[Heisenberg007]

He got the Gamepass number from Microsoft. We're talking about XBLG. And no, compared to your "0" number, he was not overestimating.

I think so, yes. Other analysts have the number quite a bit higher. And before you try for another desperate gotcha, I'm not talking about VGChartz

He did NOT get that $2.2 billion number from Microsoft. He also did NOT get the 16 million active XBLG number from Microsoft.

That was all you trying to reach and connect things that weren't there lol.

 

[DarkMage619]

Will this have any tangible effect on any of the platforms?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Fake news

a CNBC article is fake? lol Prove it.

 

[DynamiteCop]

a CNBC article is fake? lol Prove it.

Fake news, the Xbox 360 was already at 15+ million at this point and recently Satya Nadella said the Series consoles had outstripped even it as their fastest selling consoles.

This is low ball fiction bullshit.

 

[Heisenberg007]

@DynamiteCop That's wrong. By this time, month 20th, Xbox 360 had only sold 10.40 million units, not 15+ million. It hit 15 million units in month #26 -- half a year later.

13.8 million units for Xbox X|S puts it ahead of Xbox 360 and doesn't negate what Nadella said (who, btw, was only talking about the North American market anyway).

 

[Heisenberg007]

Will this have any tangible effect on any of the platforms?

Yes.

Fewer Xbox consoles sold = fewer third-party software sales + less in-app purchases and MTX money + fewer exclusive games + fewer first-party sales + less marketshare and brand value + fewer subscribers + fewer MAUs = less revenue = fewer and/or lower-quality first-party games.

So on and so forth.

 

[DynamiteCop]

@DynamiteCop That's wrong. By this time, month 20th, Xbox 360 had only sold 10.40 million units, not 15+ million. It hit 15 million units in month #26 -- half a year later.

13.8 million units for Xbox X|S puts it ahead of Xbox 360 and doesn't negate what Nadella said (who, btw, was only talking about the North American market anyway).

Lmao so you discredit VGChartz on one hand and then try to use them as a basis of argument on the other. You're done.

 

[azertydu91]

Yes.

Fewer Xbox consoles sold = fewer third-party software sales + less in-app purchases and MTX money + fewer exclusive games + fewer first-party sales + less marketshare and brand value + fewer subscribers + fewer MAUs = less revenue = fewer and/or lower-quality first-party games.

So on and so forth.

Lmao so you discredit VGChartz on one hand and then try to use them as a basis of argument on the other. You're done.

"My baseless claim holds more grounds than you sourced claim...CHECKMATE"

Edit it somehow quoted the wrong post here, first post was supposed to be post #30.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Lmao so you discredit VGChartz on one hand and then try to use them as a basis of argument on the other. You're done.

Pure comedy gold. Both graphs are even on the same chart, but only the graph which confirms his narrative is true, while the other graph must be false.

 

[DynamiteCop]

Pure comedy gold. Both graphs are even on the same chart, but only the graph which confirms his narrative is true, while the other graph must be false.

It's a clown game, I can't stand these people.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Lmao so you discredit VGChartz on one hand and then try to use them as a basis of argument on the other. You're done.

Such idiocy; much wow! Are all of you like this?

That number 10.36 million number for Xbox 360 is not an estimate by VGChartz. That is official data from Microsoft. Remember they used to share numbers and not hide them during the 360 generation?

That 15 million for Xbox Series X|S by VG Chartz is an estimate.

Is it really that hard to understand?

 

[Heisenberg007]

It's a clown game, I can't stand these people.

You can't see the difference between estimates and official numbers by Microsoft, and yet you "can't stand these people?" lmao.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Pure comedy gold. Both graphs are even on the same chart, but only the graph which confirms his narrative is true, while the other graph must be false.

Again. Such idiocy!

Xbox 360 numbers on the chart = Official MS data
Xbox Series X|S numbers on the chart = Estimates by VGChartz.

 

[ParaSeoul]

20 million more next year even with the price increase

 

[Heisenberg007]

Here you go. Another source. @Bernd Lauert @DynamiteCop . Look at the top. "Based on official financial reports."

I'll wait for the apology @DynamiteCop Also, now you should either accept your mistake or present your source for that 15 million number you threw with no data to backup.