Another PC flop: Until Dawn underperforms on Steam with 2.5k CCU at launch. Hermen flees the country

Is Sony going to recoup the total cost of the project with the PC sales?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • No

    Votes: 23 52.3%
  • Gabe and Phil are smiling as Sony kills itself

    Votes: 16 36.4%

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Vertigo

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Bruh this game is not selling 1 million it’s looking to perform worse then concord & people guess that game sold 25K. I’d give until dawn selling 10k-15k with many gamers forgetting about the game when Silent hill 2 drops.

At max until dawn remake in 5 years will sell 25k-50k either way it’s a mega flop & wont recoup

Already outperformed concord
 
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Kokoloko

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Well in this case that score is justified, there is no genuine reason for this remake to exist except Sony trying to finesse people with a cash grab

Doesnt mean the game cant be judged properly. Being a remaster or remake doesnt mean minus scores in my opinion.
Unless theres technical issues, it shouldnt have its scored lowered so much compared to the original.

I still think its another Hermen/Jim stupid decision to remake it, but the score, unless its a technical mess isn't deserved.
 
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Who the fuck though that it's worth 60$ to downgrade from amazing decima to fucking unreal.
Seriously, the game looked amazing and now it looks like an unreal engine game. Original even is 60fps on ps5.

And what's funny is that every streamer that exists plays this new remake on steam. They spent A TON on marketing.

I did see ONE streamer (modest size) who played it on PS5 but that's b/c they were sent a code by SIE to do so. Otherwise yeah, everyone streaming that I've come across has been playing it on Steam.

The fact Twitch (and I'm assuming other?) ads prominently mention the PC version and barely mention the PS5 version outside of a single text, might be another reason most are getting this on Steam. Needless to say, don't expect strong PS5 sales to make up for potentially weak Steam ones.
 

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I did see ONE streamer (modest size) who played it on PS5 but that's b/c they were sent a code by SIE to do so. Otherwise yeah, everyone streaming that I've come across has been playing it on Steam.

The fact Twitch (and I'm assuming other?) ads prominently mention the PC version and barely mention the PS5 version outside of a single text, might be another reason most are getting this on Steam. Needless to say, don't expect strong PS5 sales to make up for potentially weak Steam ones.
Don't know if on console it's the same, but in the PS App, if I search for Until Dawn, the first entry is the PS4 version and chances are high it also says "bought" because of PS+. AND the PS5 version is called exactly the same. No remake, no remastered.
 
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klomzi

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PC is GAAS country. PlayStation knows selling single player games on PC is a tall order. This bodes well for the future.

You say this while Playstation has been turned into gaschastation due to the Hoyoverse games and PC just made new records with Space Marine 2 and Wukong.
 
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The game is already dropping down to number 24 on Steam with a rating of 56% 😬

I don't think they will beat the peak because people were getting it early to review-bomb it and refund asap.

It's too early for estimates but it won't be pretty. 25k maybe? I will update the OP with the PC sales later.
 

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You say this while Playstation has been turned into gaschastation due to the Hoyoverse games and PC just made new records with Space Marine 2 and Wukong.
Because I look at the greater trend and don't cherry pick limited data to formulate a position.

Wukong may indeed shift the needle somewhat, though I doubt it. PlayStation already had their China Hero Project going for years prior to Wukongs release.

Space Marine 2 doesn't make a blip on a radar. It's a nice hit for a smaller team that didn't do 10x for anyone.
 

klomzi

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Because I look at the greater trend and don't cherry pick limited data to formulate a position.

Wukong may indeed shift the needle somewhat, though I doubt it. PlayStation already had their China Hero Project going for years prior to Wukongs release.

Space Marine 2 doesn't make a blip on a radar. It's a nice hit for a smaller team that didn't do 10x for anyone.

And the only reason this thread exist in the first place is because Valve is brave enough to show these ccu numbers for games. Valve is private and not beholden to shareholdes and investors so they can do what they want.

Who knows, maybe if Sony was as brave as Valve and also showed ccu numbers, maybe they would have been even lower on Playstation.
 

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More evidence that woke and anti-woke are only a different side of the same coin.
Remind me again which side have actively ruined games with political messaging and degenerate browbeating...

OT - PC gamers don't have to eat slop to survive. Console studios need to up their game if they want mass market penetration on PC. Considering PC owners with rigs equal to or higher than a Switch, number in their 100s of millions, it shouldn't be too hard.
If only those anti-woke chuds would stop ruining gaming.
 
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Remind me again which side have actively ruined games with political messaging and degenerate browbeating...

OT - PC gamers don't have to eat slop to survive. Console studios need to up their game if they want mass market penetration on PC. Considering PC owners with rigs equal to or higher than a Switch, number in their 100s of millions, it shouldn't be too hard.
If only those anti-woke chuds would stop ruining gaming.
I know you're not saying all this when Baldur's Gate 3 is the most "political messaging" and "degenerate browbeating" game there is and it sold extremely well, despite being what you would refer to as "woke"
 

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And the only reason this thread exist in the first place is because Valve is brave enough to show these ccu numbers for games. Valve is private and not beholden to shareholdes and investors so they can do what they want.

Who knows, maybe if Sony was as brave as Valve and also showed ccu numbers, maybe they would have been even lower on Playstation.

So brave lol
 
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Remind me again which side have actively ruined games with political messaging and degenerate browbeating...

OT - PC gamers don't have to eat slop to survive. Console studios need to up their game if they want mass market penetration on PC. Considering PC owners with rigs equal to or higher than a Switch, number in their 100s of millions, it shouldn't be too hard.
If only those anti-woke chuds would stop ruining gaming.
Hes a reesetera/sweet baby sympathizer dont even bother
 
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BillyZ

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Bet Valve inflate their own game numbers to garner more interest.

What’s stopping them.

Very brave indeed.
What's stopping them? I don't know maybe the fact that SteamDB isn't owned by Valve but it's a fan project.
 
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What's stopping them? I don't know maybe the fact that SteamDB isn't owned by Valve but it's a fan project.
The information on SteamDB is provided on valves/steams own page too.

If they wanted to hide those numbers, they could simply do that, and close down the API for it.

 
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The information on SteamDB is provided on valves/steams own page too.

If they wanted to hide those numbers, they could simply do that, and close down the API for it.

yet they don't hide the numbers and they keep the API open. No matter what game is out, they don't do that.
 

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You say this while Playstation has been turned into gaschastation due to the Hoyoverse games and PC just made new records with Space Marine 2 and Wukong.

How many gaas games does Playstation studios have?