Who cares about these logical questions, gut feeling is more important..
April NPD (Circana): PS5 #1 in dollar sales, switch #1 in units
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Turns out that Forza is what was holding Xbox back. They should have offered Redfall bundles instead to move more units.
There's too much logic in your post, but It actually prompted me to check Ebay, and... Yeah, you can get brand new consoles below or at market price (except unopened limited editions, which makes sense) in the USA.
Xbox Series X for sale | eBay
Get the best deals for Xbox Series X at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!
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Who says it's out of stock for short periods?
I'll keep posting this until someone acknowledges it
"How can there be a supply issue for the standalone product"
I don't know, explain why Best Buy has the X still listed as a High Demand Product
Here's a link to Target, you can search by any city or zip code, go find me one store that is listed as in stock. It'll be in green text In Stock.
Xbox Series X Console
Read reviews and buy Xbox Series X Console at Target. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more.
www.target.com
I can tell you in Florida that stores only have between 1-4 units if they have units, most of them only having 1-2. That's at Jacksonville, Miami, and Tampa.
New York City has a lot of stores unavailable, and the stores that do have it are mostly only 1 unit.
GameStop has next to none available right now, and the last burst of supply was weeks ago. Not a single GameStop in the Tampa area has a $499 Series X to sell.
No one has proved the $499 Series X has a demand problem or that it doesn't have a supply issue. Which is what my position is.
Boo hoo you guys were wrong, know your wrong, but still try to put up a front that your educated on anything relating to sales. A professional analyst said the same thing I have
But keep moving the goal posts on how Series X isn't actually constrained. I won this little argument the moment Amazon blinked out of stock anyway. Definitely embarrassing for the side that says Series X has a demand issue because, you know, a product with proper supply/demand would not sell out.
Not having an explanation for why the X is still supply constrained doesn't mean it isn't. That's like saying gravity and Hawking Radiation were invented by Issac Newton and Steven Hawking, not that those always existed until they were proven.
We can have a discussion on the why part though, and I already provided one possible reason. The Diablo 4 bundle that was announced in March is going to take units away today for the June launch. You can say the same thing happened with the Halo Infinite edition in 2021. Those were Series X taken out of potential circulation for a few months and put in November.
Whether or not the $499 also sees a spike in availability with Diablo 4 remains to be seen, and whether or not it's smart to have a $559 Diablo 4 bundle instead of a $499 bundle is also questionable.
Cherry picked lol. Just two of top 5 retailer for video games over here. lmao.
You ask questions that you don't know the answer to but you should come to understand that I have been checking availability of the current gen of consoles basically daily since COVID. When I say Series X is supply constrained it's because throughout most of the month it's not in stock. Very basic understanding required for that one. Then, when it does come back in stock, it can go up to or near the top of the charts. Amazon shows this happening right now, and if the X had the demand some of you think it does, it wouldn't be near PS5, it would be performing like the Forza bundle did, far behind the PS5. Walmart showed this as well when X came in at the start of the month.
The scalper market is irrelevant seeing as the $499 significantly outperforms the bundle. At Amazon, there's near equal demand for the X as the $499 PS5. Wasn't seeing that with the Forza bundle. Also, timeframe, how long should it take for the X to stop selling next to the PS5? It's been a week. Usually low demand consoles stay in low demand, doesn't matter how many units it has available.
"Supply demand pricing" Jesus will you look at the disparity between the $499 SKUs and their bundles.
#29 PS5
#66 GOW Bundle
#30 Series X
#553 Forza Bundle
You know what this shows? That at $499 the Series X has similar demand to PS5. This isn't true at $559. Now how does that prove that the $499 has a demand issue and doesn't have a supply issue?
Again, you all lost. I brought up that the $499 X is supply constrained and none of you disproved it. In fact you've had to side step it by going on about irrelevant shit because you can't admit you picked an argument with me you couldn't win. You guys want to spin Series X as some low demand product and I won't entertain the echo chamber.
One more time. If the Series X wasn't supply constrained, it wouldn't shoot up in sales the moment it comes in stock. It would behave like every other item in existence and sell at a standard pace. According to all of you, that should be a pace far below PS5, as shown in the last few months... when Series X was supplied constrained...
There's too much logic in your post, but It actually prompted me to check Ebay, and... Yeah, you can get brand new consoles below or at market price (except unopened limited editions, which makes sense) in the USA.
Xbox Series X for sale | eBay
Get the best deals for Xbox Series X at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!www.ebay.com
No one buys new consoles from ebay. Over 90% of video game sales come from GameStop, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and Amazon.
Nobody has argued that the Series X at $499 has a demand problem, people argued that the Series X as a whole has a demand problem, which it does. You moved the goalpost to the $499 product because you were, yet again, wrong.
You moved the goalposts, not us. When confronted with the reality that it is not supply constrained, you decided to pick and choose an isolated SKU to try and prove your point. It failed, and now you're on the defensive. This is the same as me saying "oh, the Series X at $449 is supply constrained because there haven't been any units in the market, check mate haters".
Go study economics a bit (after you finished your studies in data analytics) and then come back, you're not fooling nobody, neither here nor on Installbase.
Bold statement, and yet again showing how you love to cherry pick what's convenient to you.
Gamestop
Walmart
Best Buy
Note: all of them don't have delivery available, but that's a Best Buy problem / decision. It's available to pick up in store. Also... Discontinued for shipping on the console SKU only?
Amazon
Reality - Anyone in the US that wants a Series X can get a Series X, either online or via store. Denying this is denying reality. Denying that a 10% premium causes a demand problem is ignoring basic economics, which dictate that people are willing to pay more for a high demand product that's supply constrained.
Keep on sending postcards and coping, @Welfare
Walmart
Best Buy
Note: all of them don't have delivery available, but that's a Best Buy problem / decision. It's available to pick up in store. Also... Discontinued for shipping on the console SKU only?
Amazon
Reality - Anyone in the US that wants a Series X can get a Series X, either online or via store. Denying this is denying reality. Denying that a 10% premium causes a demand problem is ignoring basic economics, which dictate that people are willing to pay more for a high demand product that's supply constrained.
Keep on sending postcards and coping, @Welfare
Been checking Amazon every day for the last week here in the UK, i see series x is available to order.
and that's just a plain black tower with no added games and next-day delivery.
There are also other bundles with Forza.
Seems to be in healthy stock over here in the UK atleast.
and that's just a plain black tower with no added games and next-day delivery.
There are also other bundles with Forza.
Seems to be in healthy stock over here in the UK atleast.
I just checked BestBuy and several random ZIP codes I used had Xbox Series X avaiable
There is no online delivery... you need to go on store.
Just watch the argument "boom, not available for delivery in best buy proves my premise!"
No, it's obviously supply constrained, else it would have sold at least as much as the PS5.
GOTCHA you can't get it delivered, so no stockI just checked BestBuy and several random ZIP codes I used had Xbox Series X avaiable to pick up
There is no online delivery... you need to go on store.
I forgot to add... most zip codes I used had more than one Bestbuy around you with Xbox Series X avaiable to pick.
You can choose which store near you to go buy one.
You can choose which store near you to go buy one.
That doesn't count. It's supply constrained, period, my gut feeling confirms that.
100% this, I think that when sales are good MS will release numbers and this is the only time we can think that their consoles are selling well again. MS can't hold a good PR point, ever.
Until then this is all fan fiction.
How about they keep low stocks because they know they will have time to order some more if they run out? otherwise they would keep dozens to keep up with the supply.
That's similar to the launch of the xbone, they xbox console was selling out... but not nearly as fast as the PS4 did.
I think that if MS are not complaining about supply issues you should not make excuses for them, they are probably tightly balancing supply with the demand they see in the market for all we know. Otherwise Phil and his cronies would be out there telling everyone that they would sell much more consoles if they could manufacture more, use that as an excuse or some way to pump their chest.
Since the supply problems ended for the PS5 it has been in a similar situation on eBay (which makes sense).
If enough people wanted the product some of them would be willing to pay the premium to get it at a higher price, just like concert tickets.
As you seem to know everything, can you then please tell the exact times the Series X was or was not available or for how long it wasn't?
Just trying to get it right:
I understand as supply issue if a product can not be sufficiently
- manufactured
- transported to retail from manufacturing site
Now, if the same product in another package does not suffer from such problems, it sounds to me like there are no supply issues, but that a (business) decision has been taken.
And in this case the decision backfired, because.....*suspense*..... demand is low.
Apparently water is so repellant to "thirsty" people that rather than pay a little bit extra, they'll continue to wait for a tiny discount. Actually, based on how much the xbox cultists love waiting, maybe he has a point... maybe they are waiting for microsoft to release the series x on gamepass
How many times does it need to be drilled into your head that the Forza bundle is not indicative of Series X demand?
Also you can't gaslight me. My position has ALWAYS been the $499 X is what needs to be stocked because it was sold out. You people kept going on and on about "the bundle!" like it mattered. It didn't, the primary SKU is what is desired, not some over priced forced bundle.
I accept your concession that you're incapable of rational thought when you say the $499 SKU is an isolated SKU. It's the MAIN SKU.
The denial and cope is hard. You people have it out for me for no reason and got decimated with actual evidence, something none of you are capable of providing without getting refuted.
The ebay point is 1000% correct. No one buys consoles from there. Did you not read the Mat tweet where more than half of purchases are from brick and mortar? And if you've been around the block for awhile, you would know that the 5 major retailers make up over 90% of the market. That's just basic knowledge.
Awfully convenient you also refuse to acknowledge Mat agreeing with me that Series X is hard to find. Nice demand problem there, too much demand and too little supply results in hard to find products. Shocking. Go read a book about that.
Hahahahaha you are actually dumb as fuck. I can't be nice anymore when dealing with a troll.Gamestop
Walmart
Best Buy
Note: all of them don't have delivery available, but that's a Best Buy problem / decision. It's available to pick up in store. Also... Discontinued for shipping on the console SKU only?
Amazon
Reality - Anyone in the US that wants a Series X can get a Series X, either online or via store. Denying this is denying reality. Denying that a 10% premium causes a demand problem is ignoring basic economics, which dictate that people are willing to pay more for a high demand product that's supply constrained.
Keep on sending postcards and coping, @Welfare
Both GameStop screenshots say OUT OF STOCK HAHAHAHAHAHA
Walmart is a third party seller, so is Amazon for the bundle.
Why don't you check the Target store and see how many units are there. You can do that on the website by clicking the item and then check more stores.
Actual waste of my time, but thanks for the entertainment.
Oh my god he says they can be bought and shows me two screenshots that say out of stock. Incredible. I can't wait to see how that's spun into not looking like a stupid decision.
That's why I can't take anything said here seriously. You people are twisting yourselves into pretzels because you can't admit the "xbot" "green rat" whatever other terms you got is right.
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