no, contrary to that, they'll end up converting console buyers into PC
Can Sony really convert PC players to PS5? DF Clips
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Plenty of advantages to go to pc. Better graphics, better tech, way more games, mods, free online, etc. if you can afford it, and is serious about gaming, go for pc. But if you can't afford it or a casual then go ps5.
Not to a PS4 owner that would have to start from scratch. Once you are locked in an ecosystem is harder to move
I don't think this is a question of playing the waiting game, there is some visibility when the game comes to PC (in steam, media, etc.)... so people buy it regardless.
I think once they have it the hope is that whenever a sequel comes out people will get so excited that they'll just get the console to play it.
Also there is the case of people becoming Sony fans after they get a couple of their games (but they have not released that much lately).
This is bound to be true for at least some players out there, I just don't know what the proportion is.
The game is at the end the same without all the issues you have on PC.
I mean basically you don’t have any real advantage to migrate from PS5 to PC.
What to play PS games at launch? PS5.
Want to to play all PS games? PS5.
Want to hold your profile and purchase? PS5.
Want to have a console experience? PS5.
All these “advantages” you said are either not important for a PS4 owner or are flawed.
Better graphics? PS5 give you exactly that.
Better tech? Something 99% of PC gamers doesn’t have or games don’t use anymore it… console tech are the base for PC development.
Way more games? If you ignore the PlayStation ones and the two years more wait to have a chance to play it (remember your are migrating from PS4 so you want to play PS games)
Mods? The advantage that came with disadvantages… cheaters.
Free online? It is a real advantage but you come from PS4 already paying for online play… maybe it is not a big issue or deal breaker?
It is not a matter of afford or be casual… the reasons to move from PS4 to PC are really weak compared to move from PS4 to PS5.
PC seems to be a better move for these are are first entering in a gaming life or are abandoned Xbox and players
And just to you know if you are serious about gaming imo PS5 is the best option in the market and it is even more for these coming from PS4.
People here most of time forgot why PS4 players are playing games on PS4 instead PC… these players are way more inclined to move to PS5 because they don’t see PC as a good platform for them.
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I believe the % of these that will go to PS5 for a sequel are small but they indeed exists.
And that is what Sony want.
They don’t want all PC gamers that played a PS game on PC to move to PS5 for a sequel but if 5%, 10%, etc moves it is already a big win to Sony.
These PC gamers that plays old games when they go on fire sale on Steam where never in Sony plans because these will be always low revenue gamers.
Sony will probably be happy to get any small revenue on PC only from these waiters gamers.
Sony wants gamers that will buy games day one at full price… these are worth to spend time to seduce to PS5.
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The game is at the end the same without all the issues you have on PC.
I mean basically you don’t have any real advantage to migrate from PS5 to PC.
What to play PS games at launch? PS5.
Want to to play all PS games? PS5.
Want to hold your profile and purchase? PS5.
Want to have a console experience? PS5.
All these “advantages” you said are either not important for a PS4 owner or are flawed.
Better graphics? PS5 give you exactly that.
Better tech? Something 99% of PC gamers doesn’t have or games don’t use anymore it… console tech are the base for PC development.
Way more games? If you ignore the PlayStation ones and the two years more wait to have a chance to play it (remember your are migrating from PS4 so you want to play PS games)
Mods? The advantage that came with disadvantages… cheaters.
Free online? It is a real advantage but you come from PS4 already paying for online play… maybe it is not a big issue or deal breaker?
It is not a matter of afford or be casual… the reasons to move from PS4 to PC are really weak compared to move from PS4 to PS5.
PC seems to be a better move for these are are first entering in a gaming life or are abandoned Xbox and players
And just to you know if you are serious about gaming imo PS5 is the best option in the market and it is even more for these coming from PS4.
People here most of time forgot why PS4 players are playing games on PS4 instead PC… these players are way more inclined to move to PS5 because they don’t see PC as a good platform for them.
Those are all real clear advantages. Like i said going to ps4 to pc is a heaven and earth difference. All playstation games will eventually go to pc, so it shouldnt be a problem for ps4 guys, if they really love playstation games. better graphics, pc by a mile. Better tech as in frame generation and ray tracing. PC by a mile. Way more games yes. So many good indie games on pc you can't even count them all. And like i said playstation games will be on pc eventually. Cheaters are on console too without mods lol. Free online is amazing on pc. Most people who haven't upgraded to current gen or to pc are people who can't afford it, or they're very casual players.
I have no ideia where you take these ideias.
To release all PS games eventually on PC Sony should be releasing way more games… it is clear not all games will release on PC… not even eventually… even the DF video says there is so many games to come to PC and probably Somy doesn’t have plans to port all of them.
Plus I don’t get that ideia of you can’t afford a PC hen you are casual… that doesn’t make sense… there are a lot of people with PC rings so expense that is not even used to games.
My notebook costs over $1500 and I never played a single game on it.
Most gamers on PC doesn’t have a ring expensive and you can see that on Steam survey.
So I really don’t understand why you relate hardcore with people that can afford expensive PC and casuals as not lol
Nope, by releasing games on PC they are doing the exact opposite.
I have couple of PCmr colleagues who have gone all-in PS5 while still keeping their gaming PCs.
According to Sony themselves, no. Hermen seems like he was caught off guard by that question so he just came up with a crap answer.
Sony already tried this during the PS4 era and Layden said it's not happening so they "have to go to their house since they decided to not come to mine".
Sony already tried this during the PS4 era and Layden said it's not happening so they "have to go to their house since they decided to not come to mine".
I doubt even Sony itself actually believes it will convert pc people in any meaningful numbers. They just threw this out there for us, to make us think that the company is playing 4D chess instead of the truth which is that they prefer short term stock bumps to the long term health of the platform.
The suits don't care about what happens to Playstation ten years from now like we do, they'll be out of the company by then. The only thing they care about is showing 'growth' and getting a fat bonus because of it.
The suits don't care about what happens to Playstation ten years from now like we do, they'll be out of the company by then. The only thing they care about is showing 'growth' and getting a fat bonus because of it.
At no point while I had a PS3 or PS4 did I question myself if I shouldn't just sell that console and go 100% PC, now I'm constantly second guessing the decision to even have a PlayStation.
I get a lot of Xbox One vibes out of all of this, pretty much killing their console business long term for short term gains that are already showing to be less and less relevant over time.
Totoki and Hermen provided a direct answer: PC is not removing users from PS, PC is instead adding instead new users to the PS brand in general and -even if not their main goal- also to the PS hardware specifically, as also happens with the movies/tv shows and in the future with mobile gaming.
Their goal isn't to move PC users in a meaningful number as the misleading, clickbaity title says. Their goal is to grow and monetize their brands in new markets, not only in PS. Most of these new users of other platforms are monetized in these other platforms. But they hope -and numbers prove they are achieving- that some of them get a PS in a meaninful bigger portion than the ones who leave PS.
It's something that can be seen in the growing PS5 sales of sequels of ported games, with their console active userbase growing to record levels and also in the high percent of PS5 sales (around half) made to users new for the PS brand we saw in the leaked Insomniad docs.
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This is a LIE. For context, the video is here and the relevant section starts at 24:16
Sony Group Corporation Business Segment Meeting 2024｜Game & Network Services Segment
www.irwebmeeting.com
The Goldman Sachs representative asked two questions, with the second one being related to their PC strategy cannibalising their Consoles. I have edited both the question and the two answers since the English is, quite frankly, absolutely terrible, but anybody can freely check the source above.
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Editorialised
Essentially, anybody with the reading comprehension of a 10 year old and the listening skills of a deaf person can understand that they did not provide a direct answer, nor did they substantiate their answer. Instead, they replied based on hopes and dreams, as I've highlighted.
I hope we're clear on this and that you stop disseminating false information, or as you call it, "flat earther arguments".
You still bother dealing with Yurinka?This is a LIE. For context, the video is here and the relevant section starts at 24:16
Sony Group Corporation Business Segment Meeting 2024｜Game & Network Services Segment
The Goldman Sachs representative asked two questions, with the second one being related to their PC strategy cannibalising their Consoles. I have edited both the question and the two answers since the English is, quite frankly, absolutely terrible, but anybody can freely check the source above.
Editorialised
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Essentially, anybody with the reading comprehension of a 10 year old and the listening skills of a deaf person can understand that they did not provide a direct answer, nor did they substantiate their answer. Instead, they replied based on hopes and dreams, as I've highlighted.
I hope we're clear on this and that you stop disseminating false information, or as you call it, "flat earther arguments".
it’s like talking to a brick wall,