Careful what you wish for: Apple pulls a Unity in defiance of EU ruling

[Nhomnhom]

This, and people arguing against this are actually unknowingly siding with Microsoft, they are using their 3 trillion dollar war chest to convince the masses that they should be able to bypass IOS store, Android, and PSN ect.. Why should Apple and Sony not be able to collect 30% on something that they built? Microsoft wants to get paid from platforms they dont own and userbases they didn't build. That's bullshit and its disappointing that even some PlayStation fans have fallen for this propaganda, smh. This is part of thier plan to spend Sony out of business, read between the lines. Which company would be hurt most by this? Sony with PSN. How the fuck is Sony supposed to still keep giving us these high quality production AAA without that sweet sweet PSN revenue?

And it's only because MS never was able to built any successful storefront, same as Epic.

For MS it would be perfect to be able to bypass the Apple Store, Play Store, PSN, Nintendo, Steam, all while their own businesses remain untouched and as abusive as always. Through corruption just like we saw with ABK they are able to manipulate the regulators, the justice system and the public to get everything going their way.

MS should be broken down into a 1000 pieces, like it should've happened in the 90s, they just leech everything and discourage genuine innovation. They are a software company that makes terrible, low quality software and their only quality is being big.

 

[Batzy]

I see two possible outcomes for this:
1 - it blows in Apple's face and they end up losing more because f2p becomes too much of a risk when you charge per DL and it pushes people to free stores.... So they end up having to revert the policy

2 - it doesn't blow in their face and the rest of the world end up with the fees on downloads without access to third party stores.

It won't blow in their face cause EU is pro consumer. If it doesn't hurt the consumer, it doesn't matter.
The only way this can hurt Apple is if every app do awful micro-transactions or billing for single use at the same time. 1 company can't do that cause EU will just fine them and tell them to remove it.

 

[Yurinka]

This, and people arguing against this are actually unknowingly siding with Microsoft, they are using their 3 trillion dollar war chest to convince the masses that they should be able to bypass IOS store, Android, and PSN ect.. Why should Apple and Sony not be able to collect 30% on something that they built? Microsoft wants to get paid from platforms they dont own and userbases they didn't build. That's bullshit and its disappointing that even some PlayStation fans have fallen for this propaganda, smh. This is part of thier plan to spend Sony out of business, read between the lines. Which company would be hurt most by this? Sony with PSN. How the fuck is Sony supposed to still keep giving us these high quality production AAA without that sweet sweet PSN revenue?

MS was forced to allow other stores in Windows like Steam, so they want the same in the other platforms.

If this thing of forcing mobile platform holders to allow 3rd party stores goes forward, it would also allow Sony to have their own PSN store in iOS and Android, so their mobile games, services and apps wouldn't need to pay the 30% to Apple or Google.

Meaning, it would make upcoming Sony mobile games and PS cloud gaming mobile clients more profitable.

 

[AllBizness]

MS was forced to allow other stores in Windows like Steam, so they want the same in the other platforms.

If this thing of forcing mobile platform holders to allow 3rd party stores goes forward, it would also allow Sony to have their own PSN store in iOS and Android, so their mobile games, services and apps wouldn't need to pay the 30% to Apple or Google.

Meaning, it would make upcoming Sony mobile games and PS cloud gaming mobile clients more profitable.

Mobile phones aren't a PlayStation so what you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Microsoft are kicking themselves because they realize had they set Windows up in a similar way as Android and IOS they would be reaping the same benefits, but no, they wanted to go the OEM route and not build their own PC'S to sell and make their money business to business rather then selling direct to consumers. They are an enterprise company and most of their revenue will always come from other corporations. They are trash at selling to consumers and always will be. Microsoft couldn't sell ice water in hell.

 

[Darth Vader]

Ehy should apple allow storefornts on THEIR device, the EU rule was idiotic.

I expect nothing less from EuroCucks

Very nice post showing how assholes really do value consumer rights very little. And the eurcucks line is just the silver lining.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

It won't blow in their face cause EU is pro consumer. If it doesn't hurt the consumer, it doesn't matter.
The only way this can hurt Apple is if every app do awful micro-transactions or billing for single use at the same time. 1 company can't do that cause EU will just fine them and tell them to remove it.

This is not a question of all, but a question that many would forego the apple ecosystem thus hurting the choice available to their customers.

Eu is not magical, people can decide to skip the apple platform.

 

[riesgoyfortuna]

Fuck Apple

 

[riesgoyfortuna]

Ehy should apple allow storefornts on THEIR device, the EU rule was idiotic.

I expect nothing less from EuroCucks

This eurocuck can break all the bones of your miserable body with just one arm bozo

 

[Batzy]

This is not a question of all, but a question that many would forego the apple ecosystem thus hurting the choice available to their customers.

Eu is not magical, people can decide to skip the apple platform.

To be fair, People buy an iphone in EU for the security, not the apps. That's why cheap androids sell cause people don't care.

 

[Yurinka]

Mobile phones aren't a PlayStation so what you're saying makes absolutely no sense.

Mobile is the biggest and fastest growing market in both revenue and users, this is why it makes sense that Sony and the other gaming publishers and platform holders are expanding and will continue expanding there, even you don't like it.

Also, bringing cloud gaming, games and other stuff to mobile means they'll bring it to PS Portal too.

 

[Darth Vader]

Mobile is the biggest and fastest growing market in both revenue and users, this is why it makes sense that Sony and the other gaming publishers and platform holders are expanding and will continue expanding there, even you don't like it.

Also, bringing cloud gaming, games and other stuff to mobile means they'll bring it to PS Portal too.

Can you please, for the love of god, stop repeating the same shit every thread?

 

[historia]

Very nice post showing how assholes really do value consumer rights very little. And the eurcucks line is just the silver lining.

That guy is Australian I think.

But EU do have some weird standards.

 

[Ezekiel]

This, and people arguing against this are actually unknowingly siding with Microsoft, they are using their 3 trillion dollar war chest to convince the masses that they should be able to bypass IOS store, Android, and PSN ect.. Why should Apple and Sony not be able to collect 30% on something that they built? Microsoft wants to get paid from platforms they dont own and userbases they didn't build. That's bullshit and its disappointing that even some PlayStation fans have fallen for this propaganda, smh. This is part of thier plan to spend Sony out of business, read between the lines. Which company would be hurt most by this? Sony with PSN. How the fuck is Sony supposed to still keep giving us these high quality production AAA without that sweet sweet PSN revenue?

The EU ruling doesn't apply to consoles.

 

[Darth Vader]

That guy is Australian I think.

But EU do have some weird standards.

Yeah, I'm sure you know all about them.

Brussels effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[AllBizness]

The EU ruling doesn't apply to consoles.

For now

 

[Neversummer]

Why should apple allow storefronts on THEIR device, the EU rule was idiotic.

Yuh I don’t get. EU is essentially undermining competition. Apple mind be good because they are also worth 3 trillion but imagine if they open storefronts on Nintendo or PlayStation trillion dollar company can go open there storefront & take 90/10 split allowing big tech crush small storefront anyways & just loss lead instead of the usual 70/30 or forcing big tech to push better mobile product & push competition MS tried to get on the mobile market w Nokia & killed it off because it was taking to long & didn’t want to invest further it’s like MS complaining about the console market being Nintendo & PlayStation when they themselves spiral out of bad management & lack luster gaming vision & act like they weren’t market leader during the 360 era where they push for innovative online & quality games

 

[Darth Vader]

Yuh I don’t get. EU is essentially undermining competition. Apple mind be good because they are also worth 3 trillion but imagine if they open storefronts on Nintendo or PlayStation trillion dollar company can go open there storefront & take 90/10 split allowing big tech crush small storefront anyways & just loss lead instead of the usual 70/30 or forcing big tech to push better mobile product & push competition MS tried to get on the mobile market w Nokia & killed it off because it was taking to long & didn’t want to invest further it’s like MS complaining about the console market being Nintendo & PlayStation when they themselves spiral out of bad management & lack luster gaming vision & act like they weren’t market leader during the 360 era where they push for innovative online & quality games

How is more choice undermining competition? Mobile phones are pretty much a necessity for our daily lives, and having more choice is paramount to consumers having the best possible services and prices available to them. In theory, that is, but this is not a bad move.

 

[Ezekiel]

For now

They're not general purpose devices, so no.

 

[Dr Bass]

They're not general purpose devices, so no.

Edit: Completely misread your post lol. I'll leave the original up to not obfuscate what I goofed on.

Original:

Completely disagree. So many businesses depend on mobile device software to serve their customers, Apple and Google can basically decide to kill any business they want by arbitrarily removing apps from the App Store. It's happened too. I've worked for businesses where, if the mobile apps were pulled, it would be lights out, and there are many in this boat.

Mobile phones are basically the most important consumer computing devices in the world at this point. I'd hardly even call them phones, they are simply your pocket PC.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

They're not general purpose devices, so no.

The general purpose device line came from Tim Epic to create a distinction with PS and Xbox.

This is not the official stance of regulators, they can change the rule whenever they want and Sony will be fucked forever and Microsoft will rake the profits. We should not be cheering for this.

Customers on mobile already have enough choices or they can use a pay phone in the street if they're not satisfied