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[Boswollox]

Explain why

• MAUs are stable
• Software sales are up

Posters like you fundamentally misunderstand how GaaS work and that fundamental lack of understanding has you years behind understanding the hardware market.

Copium, pure copium.

I understand the market a lot more than you. Your narrative flip flops every statement and you bend yourself into mental pretzels to try and explain what's happening.

MAUs across playstation have dipped and those numbers include PS4 MAUs, which is terrible.

GaaS don't translate into console sales or more hardware sales. GaaS lock people into one game and those players spend less than those who buy multiple titles.

I thought you put me on ignore? Can't even stick to your word. Your account will be banned as per our bet in no time.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Something something "PS4 more profitable than PS5" something something.

Not to shit up the thread, but when will posters who attack those with differing opinions admit that Sony are taking PlayStation in the wrong direction?

Bigger picture: the industry is having a slowdown. With Christmas around the corner, maybe people are waiting to spend. However, if those pent up sales don't translate to real sales, Christmas, black Friday and Thanksgiving could be a blood bath.

At this rate, GTA6 will be launching to smaller hype than GTA3.

Usually they had COD every Christmas for hype, marketing and bundles. They lost it and instead of relying on their own IPs to push sales, they are porting everything to PC and/or Switch??

Xbox had a Fortnite bundle every Christmas and it didn't help them. Sony is copying them once again because they have nothing else. What a sad state of affairs.

 

[ethomaz]

Something something "PS4 more profitable than PS5" something something.

Not to shit up the thread, but when will posters who attack those with differing opinions admit that Sony are taking PlayStation in the wrong direction?

Bigger picture: the industry is having a slowdown. With Christmas around the corner, maybe people are waiting to spend. However, if those pent up sales don't translate to real sales, Christmas, black Friday and Thanksgiving could be a blood bath.

At this rate, GTA6 will be launching to smaller hype than GTA3.

PS5 is way more profitable than PS4.
I have no ideia where you got the opposite.

And GTA6 launching without hype? Are you crazy?

 

[RE4-City]

I do wonder what happens if GTA VI slips out of Holiday 2025 and end up being a spring- summer 2026 game? There is no way PS5 and Xbox Series Consoles can get that much of a boost that late in their lifecycle.

 

[KvallyX]

I do wonder what happens if GTA VI slips out of Holiday 2025 and end up being a spring- summer 2026 game? There is no way PS5 and Xbox Series Consoles can get that much of a boost that late in their lifecycle.

If GTA 6 came out only for the 360/PS3 right now, it would still sell millions and every used 360/PS3 on ebay and Craigslist would be sold out.

 

[Danja]

I do wonder what happens if GTA VI slips out of Holiday 2025 and end up being a spring- summer 2026 game? There is no way PS5 and Xbox Series Consoles can get that much of a boost that late in their lifecycle.

Nothing will happen.. GTA V came out literally 2 months on PS3 before the PS4 was out... And it propelled the PS3 to finally dethroning the Xbox 360 in North America.

 

[mibu no ookami]

Copium, pure copium.

I understand the market a lot more than you. Your narrative flip flops every statement and you bend yourself into mental pretzels to try and explain what's happening.

MAUs across playstation have dipped and those numbers include PS4 MAUs, which is terrible.

Show us the numbers then. Of course they include PS4, that's the point...

GaaS don't translate into console sales or more hardware sales. GaaS lock people into one game and those players spend less than those who buy multiple titles.

Exactly, GaaS isn't about console or hardware sales, it's about MTX, and that's exactly why there is no incentive to discount a PS5 just to get a PS4 owner who only plays Fortnite to play Fortnite on PS5. You're again proving my point.

I thought you put me on ignore? Can't even stick to your word. Your account will be banned as per our bet in no time.

You are on ignore. Every once in a while I'll click see ignored posts, especially if someone else responds to something ridiculous someone says and I get that itch to see what foolishness is out there.

 

[Bryank75]

KingDavid strikes again

 

[mibu no ookami]

KingDavid strikes again

Honestly, it doesn't make sense to mock xbox fans.

You have a combination of a lot of things some are grifters online but there is also a lot of mental illness (its not exclusive to xbox fans) and it gets bolstered online.

When you have people with mental illness whose identities are attached to a plastic box, who have invested everything into that plastic box, this is the obvious outcome.

When Microsoft does eventually go full 3rd party we're probably going to see a rash of suicides, which is kind of wild.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

When Microsoft does eventually go full 3rd party we're probably going to see a rash of suicides, which is kind of wild

 

[RE4-City]

Nothing will happen.. GTA V came out literally 2 months on PS3 before the PS4 was out... And it propelled the PS3 to finally dethroning the Xbox 360 in North America.

The PS3 never dethroned Xbox 360 in North America but did worldwide around January of 2013: https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total

PlayStation 3 pulls ahead of Xbox 360 with 77 million consoles sold | Digital Trends

According to research firm IDC, Sony's PlayStation 3 closed its sixth year on shelves by pulling ahead of Microsoft's Xbox 360 in global sales. Where will the first two HD consoles rest if they retire at the end of 2013?

www.digitaltrends.com

2013 was a wild year because the Xbox 360 ended up outselling the Wii in North America and it was around the time GTA V did release:

Analysis: Xbox 360 poised to pass Wii in US sales by year’s end

Nintendo maintains worldwide sales lead, though, thanks in large part to Japan.

arstechnica.com

But what I meant by my post was that the PS5 is expected to sell 18 million from April 1st, 2024 to March 31st, 2015. Next year it will most likely be down especially if GTA comes out after March 31st, 2026. So let's say the PS5 does 16.5 million next FY if GTA VI comes out next Holiday and 15.5 Million if GTA VI is delayed past next fiscal year.
Then I just don't see the PS5 receiving a huge bump from GTA VI the longer and longer we wait.
It is very rare but it is possible for a system to sell more than the previous year after the peak has been reached like I believe PS2 in FY2004 sold slightly more than it did in FY2003 and the 3DS sold slightly better in 2017 than it did in 2016.

But I just don't see the PS5 going from 16 to 15 million next FY to something like 18 to 19 million the following FY because of GTA VI.
I just am very curious to see how the market reacts to the PS5 in 2025 as Monster Hunter Wilds is coming and should give it a boost in Japan but I wonder what GTA VI does next year or in 2026.

 

[Evilms]

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[KvallyX]

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Spreadsheets make me damp, and that one pretty much filled up my boxers. I wonder if that is from Excel? Or is that something like Access.

 

[Boswollox]

Show us the numbers then. Of course they include PS4, that's the point...

Yes, that's the point. Sony have never struggled so much to convince playstation players to upgrade. That they haven't is the problem.

Exactly, GaaS isn't about console or hardware sales, it's about MTX, and that's exactly why there is no incentive to discount a PS5 just to get a PS4 owner who only plays Fortnite to play Fortnite on PS5. You're again proving my point.

Microsoft followed this strategy. How did that work out for them?

You are on ignore. Every once in a while I'll click see ignored posts, especially if someone else responds to something ridiculous someone says and I get that itch to see what foolishness is out there.

Just re-read your own posts if you want foolishness.

 

[Evilms]

Spreadsheets make me damp, and that one pretty much filled up my boxers. I wonder if that is from Excel? Or is that something like Access.

Excel

 

[ethomaz]

The PS3 never dethroned Xbox 360 in North America but did worldwide around January of 2013: https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total

PlayStation 3 pulls ahead of Xbox 360 with 77 million consoles sold | Digital Trends

According to research firm IDC, Sony's PlayStation 3 closed its sixth year on shelves by pulling ahead of Microsoft's Xbox 360 in global sales. Where will the first two HD consoles rest if they retire at the end of 2013?

www.digitaltrends.com

2013 was a wild year because the Xbox 360 ended up outselling the Wii in North America and it was around the time GTA V did release:

Analysis: Xbox 360 poised to pass Wii in US sales by year’s end

Nintendo maintains worldwide sales lead, though, thanks in large part to Japan.

arstechnica.com

But what I meant by my post was that the PS5 is expected to sell 18 million from April 1st, 2024 to March 31st, 2015. Next year it will most likely be down especially if GTA comes out after March 31st, 2026. So let's say the PS5 does 16.5 million next FY if GTA VI comes out next Holiday and 15.5 Million if GTA VI is delayed past next fiscal year.
Then I just don't see the PS5 receiving a huge bump from GTA VI the longer and longer we wait.
It is very rare but it is possible for a system to sell more than the previous year after the peak has been reached like I believe PS2 in FY2004 sold slightly more than it did in FY2003 and the 3DS sold slightly better in 2017 than it did in 2016.

But I just don't see the PS5 going from 16 to 15 million next FY to something like 18 to 19 million the following FY because of GTA VI.
I just am very curious to see how the market reacts to the PS5 in 2025 as Monster Hunter Wilds is coming and should give it a boost in Japan but I wonder what GTA VI does next year or in 2026.

He meant breaking the 36 or so months in a row that 360 was #1 in NPD.
That happened when GTA5 launched... PS3 come ahead after years.

 

[ethomaz]

Spreadsheets make me damp, and that one pretty much filled up my boxers. I wonder if that is from Excel? Or is that something like Access.

All Mat charts are Excel ones.

 

[DarkLordOtaku]

Spreadsheets make me damp, and that one pretty much filled up my boxers. I wonder if that is from Excel? Or is that something like Access.

When I think about this comment, I'm really on the fence about what I should assume your boxers are being filled with.

The only sound suggestion I can provide is to stay hydrated, and seek medical attention.

 

[KvallyX]

When I think about this comment, I'm really on the fence about what I should assume your boxers are being filled with.

The only sound suggestion I can provide is to stay hydrated, and seek medical attention.

I think you are correct sir.

 

[Danja]

The PS3 never dethroned Xbox 360 in North America but did worldwide around January of 2013: https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total

PlayStation 3 pulls ahead of Xbox 360 with 77 million consoles sold | Digital Trends

According to research firm IDC, Sony's PlayStation 3 closed its sixth year on shelves by pulling ahead of Microsoft's Xbox 360 in global sales. Where will the first two HD consoles rest if they retire at the end of 2013?

www.digitaltrends.com

2013 was a wild year because the Xbox 360 ended up outselling the Wii in North America and it was around the time GTA V did release:

Analysis: Xbox 360 poised to pass Wii in US sales by year’s end

Nintendo maintains worldwide sales lead, though, thanks in large part to Japan.

arstechnica.com

But what I meant by my post was that the PS5 is expected to sell 18 million from April 1st, 2024 to March 31st, 2015. Next year it will most likely be down especially if GTA comes out after March 31st, 2026. So let's say the PS5 does 16.5 million next FY if GTA VI comes out next Holiday and 15.5 Million if GTA VI is delayed past next fiscal year.
Then I just don't see the PS5 receiving a huge bump from GTA VI the longer and longer we wait.
It is very rare but it is possible for a system to sell more than the previous year after the peak has been reached like I believe PS2 in FY2004 sold slightly more than it did in FY2003 and the 3DS sold slightly better in 2017 than it did in 2016.

But I just don't see the PS5 going from 16 to 15 million next FY to something like 18 to 19 million the following FY because of GTA VI.
I just am very curious to see how the market reacts to the PS5 in 2025 as Monster Hunter Wilds is coming and should give it a boost in Japan but I wonder what GTA VI does next year or in 2026.

What is all this nonsense? I said the PS3 ended the 360 NPD streak thanks to GTA V, which came out 2 months before the PS4... So GTA 6 will do sales damage with the PS5 bundle any time it drops.

PlayStation 3 breaks Xbox 360's 32-month winning streak in the US

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