Circana September 2024: PS5 #1 (-45%) NSW #2 (-23%) XBS #L (-54%) / EA FC25 #1, Astro Bot#2, Madden 25 #3

[RE4-City]

What is all this nonsense? I said the PS3 ended the 360 NPD streak thanks to GTA V, which came out 2 months before the PS4... So GTA 6 will do sales damage with the PS5 bundle any time it drops.

PlayStation 3 breaks Xbox 360's 32-month winning streak in the US

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I got confused on how it was worded.
"it propelled the PS3 to finally dethroning the Xbox 360 in North America"

I thought you were talking about lifetime sales in North America, not that the PS3 won the month that GTA V came out.

That being said the bump the PS3 got wasn't enough to stop Sony from combining PS2 and PS3 shipments together during that time because of the financial shape they were in so we can't really say how big of a bump PS3 got from it but yes it did get a significant boost.

I just wonder how much GTA VI can stop PS5 sales from lowering year over year and the longer we wait the less of an effect it will have

 

[akira__]

When Microsoft does eventually go full 3rd party we're probably going to see a rash of suicides, which is kind of wild

Oh didn't you hear it yet?
They are Nintendo, Valve/PCMR stans now. They might not actually have a gaming pc or switch. But there is a big chance they bought a ps5 pro.

They act like they never liked xbox, and that playstation is doomed(Sonytoo).

 

[Bryank75]

Oh didn't you hear it yet?
They are Nintendo, Valve/PCMR stans now. They might not actually have a gaming pc or switch. But there is a big chance they bought a ps5 pro.

They act like they never liked xbox, and that playstation is doomed(Sonytoo).

Amazing the tricks people can play on themselves...

 

[Danja]

I got confused on how it was worded.
"it propelled the PS3 to finally dethroning the Xbox 360 in North America"

I thought you were talking about lifetime sales in North America, not that the PS3 won the month that GTA V came out.

That being said the bump the PS3 got wasn't enough to stop Sony from combining PS2 and PS3 shipments together during that time because of the financial shape they were in so we can't really say how big of a bump PS3 got from it but yes it did get a significant boost.

I just wonder how much GTA VI can stop PS5 sales from lowering year over year and the longer we wait the less of an effect it will have

Sony started combining their shipments of all platforms long before this. By the time GTA V came out they were the dominant brand again everywhere except north America and UK. But my point was GTA V came out 2 months before PS4 when pre-orders were already available and stuff... It still pushed people to rush out and buy a PS3.

GTA 6 will do the same especially if Rockstar manages to fuse GTA V online with the new GTA 6 online map...and keep their online base unified.

 

[ethomaz]

I got confused on how it was worded.
"it propelled the PS3 to finally dethroning the Xbox 360 in North America"

I thought you were talking about lifetime sales in North America, not that the PS3 won the month that GTA V came out.

That being said the bump the PS3 got wasn't enough to stop Sony from combining PS2 and PS3 shipments together during that time because of the financial shape they were in so we can't really say how big of a bump PS3 got from it but yes it did get a significant boost.

I just wonder how much GTA VI can stop PS5 sales from lowering year over year and the longer we wait the less of an effect it will have

The combination happened because Vita low sales.

 

[anonpuffs]

Even a sales curve for 2024 like

Q1: 800K
Q2: 800K (Microsoft expectations for next quarter hardware is ~$400M, an increase over last Q)
Q3: 1200K (Q3 always sees a jump for Xbox)
Q4: 2500K (A significant decline that would be catastrophic)

would equal 5.4M for the year. 6M for 2024 is going to be the floor.

A 35M LTD in 2024 would mean Xbox could see the following sales curve

2025: 5M
2026: 4M
2027: 3M
2028: 2M

for a LTD of 49M. That's assuming a steady decline every year that Microsoft doesn't respond to with either significant price drops or releasing next gen in 2026.

It would actually be a challenge Microsoft wants to accomplish to not hit 50M LTD.

For reference, Xbox Series shipments for 2020 - 2023 are roughly

2020: ~3.1M
2021: ~9.6M
2022: ~9M
2023: ~8M

so a million lost a year would put it over 50M in 2027.

Next gen for Xbox is either 2026 or 2028. If not 2026, 2028 is an entire 4 years from now. That's a long time to build up sales.

Just wanted to commemorate this banger of a post in the wake of that delicious -54% yoy revenue and ~57% yoy unit sell through drop.

 

[KvallyX]

When Microsoft does eventually go full 3rd party we're probably going to see a rash of suicides, which is kind of wild.

Hope it starts with Twitter psychos.

 

[KvallyX]

Amazing the tricks people can play on themselves...

Like shaving our your pubes to make our wiener look bigger.

 

[anonpuffs]

Like shaving our your pubes to make our wiener look bigger.

Do people actually do this

 

[ethomaz]

Just wanted to commemorate this banger of a post in the wake of that delicious -54% yoy revenue and ~57% yoy unit sell through drop.

We had crazy expectation… 5.4m Xbox sold this year? lol

 

[anonpuffs]

We had crazy expectation… 5.4m Xbox sold this year? lol

That's @Welfare for you. We always called out his bs positivity for xbox.

 

[Landiri]

At this point i am wondering if Xbox bought ABK, or if ABK bought Xbox.

Leaving aside the Mobile Stuff, it is mainly just CoD for them now!

Anything else will get Ninja Theoritcally tangoed, in the near future.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

At this point i am wondering if Xbox bought ABK, or if ABK bought Xbox.

Leaving aside the Mobile Stuff, it is mainly just CoD for them now!

Anything else will get Ninja Theoritcally tangoed, in the near future.

Indiana Jones is number 1070 on Steam Best Sellers, no hype at all but it's coming in December. They might pull a miracle.

They are not alone in their misery, Lego Horizon is number 1047 and that's coming in 2 weeks. Another legendary flop in the making for Sony.

Horizon was like their Zelda but they completely ruined and devalued their IPs. I feel sorry for Lego.

https://steamdb.info/app/2428810/charts/

Ragnarok out of the top 100 after selling ~300k
Until Dawn out of top 200 after selling ~40k

A massacre

 

[Gediminas]

Horizon was like their Zelda but they completely ruined and devalued their IPs. I feel sorry for Lego.

https://steamdb.info/app/2428810/charts/

that's what happens, when you have inept bean counters at the helm.

 

[Gediminas]

Indiana Jones is number 1070 on Steam Best Sellers, no hype at all but it's coming in December. They might pull a miracle.

They are not alone in their misery, Lego Horizon is number 1047 and that's coming in 2 weeks. Another legendary flop in the making for Sony.

Horizon was like their Zelda but they completely ruined and devalued their IPs. I feel sorry for Lego.

https://steamdb.info/app/2428810/charts/

Ragnarok out of the top 100 after selling ~300k
Until Dawn out of top 200 after selling ~40k

A massacre

don't worry, PC pushers will tell you, that AAA gaming even AA can survive with these numbers

 

[Gods&Monsters]

that's what happens, when you have inept bean counters at the helm.

don't worry, PC pushers will tell you, that AAA gaming even AA can survive with these numbers

We have to believe they are expanding and reaching more people with below 25k sales

The MAUS are doing great tho

Lego Zelda would be on top of every chart if it came to PC but there's no excitement, no prestige anymore for anything Sony. They are basically persona non grata on PC.

 

[Landiri]

They are basically persona non grata on PC.

Everyone is, on PC. PC Gamers only care about Steam (Or Piracy).

There is no real identity of PC-Gaming, outside from using the Steam launcher!
Even the Welfare-Pass People don't want to bargain, since they want just Steam.

It is like selling your Brand Products in the dark corner of a Dollar Store, instead of having a proper Storefront!

 

[Gediminas]

We have to believe they are expanding and reaching more people with below 25k sales

The MAUS are doing great tho

Lego Zelda would be on top of every chart if it came to PC but there's no excitement, no prestige anymore for anything Sony. They are basically persona non grata on PC.

Yeah, xbox thriving on MAUs 500M and counting..

They are in the best position they ever been, i have been told that reach..

 

[Landiri]

Yeah, xbox thriving on MAUs 500M and counting..

Most of them are properly Mobile-Gamers, or Office 365 Subscribers

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Yeah, xbox thriving on MAUs 500M and counting..

They are in the best position they ever been, i have been told that reach..

All that MAU talk brought me back to 2013 when Xbox was flopping and Phil was all about MAU. That MAU kept growing and it's now bigger than ever...but it doesn't change the fact that Xbox is more irrelevant than ever and dying.

The MAU is meaningless and always will be.