Console wars are over. Microsoft ramping up 3rd party development. |UP| Chris Dring: Xbox flatlining in EU, Xbox games coming to PS & less focus on GP

Nhomnhom

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The most insane thing is the recent spate of "turns out there was no widespread knowledge of or coverup of sexual assault at ABK after all!" PR pieces in the media recently... sure sure big corporations settle for $54 million over fake allegations all the time. It's so eye roll inducing when you have lawyers like Hoeg cheering on how good things are going for ABK. It's all so fucking transparent and disgusting.
The sad thing is that this pretty obvious influence MS has over the narratives we see being circulated is somewhat efficient. The Series would be doing even worse if not for the game media treating it and Xbox with kids glove.
 

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The sad thing is that this pretty obvious influence MS has over the narratives we see being circulated is somewhat efficient. The Series would be doing even worse if not for the game media treating it and Xbox with kids glove.
Welcome back….(again ?¿)

This is true, Xbox is being propped up and inflated like crazy. All we heard for the first 2 years of the generation was how GamePass was the greatest thing to ever happen in gaming. And how Xbox cornered Sony with both value and power. I’m glad the bs narratives can only take you so far, in a proper society, the entire media would be held accountable for pushing blatant propaganda onto consumers. I can’t wait for 2027
 

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The most insane thing is the recent spate of "turns out there was no widespread knowledge of or coverup of sexual assault at ABK after all!" PR pieces in the media recently... sure sure big corporations settle for $54 million over fake allegations all the time. It's so eye roll inducing when you have lawyers like Hoeg cheering on how good things are going for ABK. It's all so fucking transparent and disgusting.

Hoeg isn't even subtle about it at this point, it's honestly so funny to me. His celebration of the fact that ABK was able to sweep all of those issues under the rug, saying it's "Good for Activision", it just makes me laugh.

These people were delighted to exploit the experiences of countless employees to justify the acquisition, only to drop them immediately the moment it goes through, saying there was never any evidence of any wrongdoing. Effectively calling those who were brave enough to come forward liars, by any other words.

I'm not saying I am an ABK employee, now. But I am saying that if I hypothetically were an employee working for Blizzard as a specialist Game Master on World of Warcraft since 2017, I would find that fucking disgusting, and I would not be even remotely alone in that in a hypothetical team setting which hypothetically doesn't exist.
 
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There is no morality or ethics in any of that.

It's a trip from point A to B. Point A = to acquire. Point B = to close.

What happens during the trip from Point A to Point B is inconsequential as long as you get to Point B. The end justify the means, no matter how many kittens are run over during the trip.

What you're discussing here is child play compared to the political corruption on display when threats were thrown around to countries, politicians started to yap, and the CMA did a 180 in a hurry.

It's pure rot - all of it. I guess it's proper to point out the rot in whichever instance it manifests itself but it's par for the course with the company involved, and the size of the deal (literally dwarfing the GDP of some countries).
 
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Nhomnhom

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There is no morality or ethics in any of that.

It's a trip from point A to B. Point A = to acquire. Point B = to close.

What happens during the trip from Point A to Point B is inconsequential as long as you get to Point B. The end justify the means, no matter how many kittens are run over during the trip.

What you're discussing here is child play compared to the political corruption on display when threats were thrown around to countries, politicians started to yap, and the CMA did a 180 in a hurry.

It's pure rot - all of it. I guess it's proper to point out the rot in whichever instance it manifests itself but it's par for the course with the company involved, and the size of the deal (literally dwarfing the GDP of some countries).
Rot is what everyone should expect from a company like MS. We are just lucky the Xbox guys are as incredibly incompetent as they are. That they managed to failed this miserably with all the resources they had available is a massive break for us.

Imagine if it was the other way around and the PlayStation guys were the ones who didn't have to worry about running a profitable business and had hundreds of billions of dollars to burn trough. But I guess the restrains and lack of room for error for PlayStation and Nintendo have are one of the big reasons why they are so successful.
 
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Rot is what everyone should expect from a company like MS. We are just lucky the Xbox guys are as incredibly incompetent as they are.

That they managed to failed this miserably with all the resources they had available is a massive break for us.

Imagine if it was the other way around and the PlayStation guys were the ones who didn't have to worry about running a profitable business and had hundred of billions of dollars to burn trough.
It's the "on the bright side" of a shitty situation.
 
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MS is relatively "inoffensive" as a publisher. It wouldn't be much of a problem at all if they became a full third party publisher while killing Xbox hardware in the process (and I mean actually exiting out - not just bleeding slowly to death - aka present condition). Much less of a headache for sure, although still a market player with a device preference - PC.

The problem is that they're a platform holder in the console space and as such can direct the industry in directions of their choosing policy wise that are detrimental to us as consumers and console enthusiasts. They're a cancer to consoles and they play that role well.

They're also of course the biggest PC stakeholder of this planet. Now naturally I much prefer Microsoft enclosed on the PC realm - way too many benefits. Also it's much easier for console manufacturers to tighten the noose on PC if required when there are less distractions on the console side of the equation. If Microsoft is powerless to directly and from the inside sabotage the console market that is a major win for every stakeholder in the console industry (including us). Unfortunately that is not the case, and it's not the case precisely because of this reason.

Make no mistake, Microsoft packing itself with two of the biggest publishers in this industry, specially publishers that catered to the ever critical WRPG/FPS genre that PC consumers like and is just as important to the console audiences is for a multitude of reasons. One of these reasons is that this makes sure PC as a gaming device is supported and covered, as well as partially shielded against a console manufacturer power play for the premium games industry. If those publishers were to stay independent, their support in a market split goes where the wind goes - that is, where there is market strength. This fact does not go unnoticed to MS, and they know that Japanese publishers will align with the dominant local. That is to say, Microsoft is giving the PC platform, the cushion the Nintendo platform has, or PlayStation has, and cementing it for PC. They're also doing that for Xbox, even if in a death spiral.

For illustration: there is literally no chance of Sony striking exclusive deals that leave out PC going forward for any ABK/Bethesda game/IP, even in a scenario where Microsoft kills Xbox and goes "third party". That is going to be eye opening for some, but all in due time.
 
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Just wow. Grown ass man. Someone send him a link to a help site or something. And creeps like this are allowed to vote and have children.
 

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For illustration: there is literally no chance of Sony striking exclusive deals that leave out PC going forward for any ABK/Bethesda game/IP, even in a scenario where Microsoft kills Xbox and goes "third party". That is going to be eye opening for some, but all in due time.
Sony themselves were moving in that direction but it's still an interesting point.

They made a deal with Square for exclusivity but Square never supported PC Day 1 anyway. Ronin is exclusive. The rest we don't know.
 
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subtle difference, first tweet asked to promise that the xbox isn't going anywhere...second one asks that the xbox brand doesn't go anywhere. this smacks of a trial balloon, not to be too conspiratorial.
 

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The creepiest thing about the Xbox brand is that it’s mainly a brand pushed by over 25 year old Americans

They don’t actually grow a playerbase for the product. These Xbox guys are absolutely insane that they’re trying to single-handedly keep their platform afloat on their ones instead of being like actual normal consumers
 
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