Elon Musk x Twitter: The Joke that Keeps Giving

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The joke still alive.

She was one of the few execs that supported Twitter 2.0 and Elon Musk... received back the good and old kick in the ass :D


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The joke still alive.

She was one of the few execs that supported Twitter 2.0 and Elon Musk... received back the good and old kick in the ass :D


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These people could basically eat for free, shower there and even sleep, like wtf lol.

That place was such a bubble.
 

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And the story about the designer that made Elon own himself?
Saw that, it was mind boggling and I’m pretty sure Ellon just exposed himself for a easy lawsuit.

Twitter is a tree filled with parrots saying buzzwords over and over trying to compete from who is the loudest.

It adds nothing for our society it just harms it.
 
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Really? He changed the Twitter logo to Dogecoin logo?

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Dogecoin inreased price again,.. is he doing that to profit?
 

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Lol they take away 2FA and of course my account gets broken into. Thank goodness it was already permabanned due to someone else breaking in and spamming crypto-shit a year ago. If they are going to deliberately make it less secure in order to sell premium passes then I switch my stance and hope that Twitter just hurries up and dies.
 

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Lol they take away 2FA and of course my account gets broken into. Thank goodness it was already permabanned due to someone else breaking in and spamming crypto-shit a year ago. If they are going to deliberately make it less secure in order to sell premium passes then I switch my stance and hope that Twitter just hurries up and dies.
2FA still works, but only the authentication app version, which is the best version btw since SMS is trash.
Really? He changed the Twitter logo to Dogecoin logo?

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Dogecoin inreased price again,.. is he doing that to profit?
He did and nobody knows why but it is probable because of dogecoin, yes.
Elon musk is a terrible entrepreneur and an even worse person.
 

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I wonder how activity levels are. Got worried a bit with all the threats to leave the platform for.....mastadon lmao. The platform has seemed a lot more fun as of late that's for sure.
 
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Twitter censored Brazilian trends.

Unfortunately the last weeks Brazil is having some attacks on schools with several deaths… so the Brazilian’s government asked Twitter to block and remove accounts of the assassins.
Twitter denied it (it was the only big social network to deny it).

So Brazilian population started a movement #TwitterApoiaMassacres (something like Twitter supports massacres) and it become trend reaching too spot until 14:12 in Brazilian time when the trend just vanished.

External trackers still says around 12k posts with the #TwitterApoiaMassacres were being posted each 30 minutes but it was not showed in trends anymore.
Asked by Brazilian press they just replied with a feces emoticon.

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Is that what twitter is becoming or outside Brazil it is better?
 
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Elon Musk’s Twitter has been fined with $30 billion in Germany (which is more than Twitter is currently worth) over Twitter’s repeated “systemic failures” to comply with Germany’s “hate speech” laws.
Elon Musk’s Twitter could be on the hook for a pipeline of multimillion-dollar penalties for failing to take down illegal hate speech in Germany.

Fines could even stack up to billions if the federal government acts on the scores of cases of content moderation inaction that have already been reported to it and German courts confirm the law has been breached.

Earlier this week, the federal government announced it was instigating a procedure over suspected systemic failures under the country’s hate speech takedowns law. The law, known colloquially as NetzDG, allows for fines of up to €50 million per case.

The federal government is acting on just a handful of tweets out of hundreds that have been reported and collated in a database, per lawyer Chan-jo Jun, the founder and managing partner of the specialist IT law firm, JunIT Rechtsanwälte.

Jun is representing the antisemitism commissioner of the federal state of Baden-Württemberg, Michael Blume, who he says has been targeted by abusive and defamatory tweets that Twitter has refused to take down. Some of the abusive tweets were posted by a Twitter user who had been banned before Musk took over the platform but had his account reinstated in Musk’s general amnesty on suspended accounts.
Late last year, the law firm went to court seeking an injunction against Twitter for failing to act on the reports to remove hate speech under the NetzDG law. The legal challenge succeeded in establishing the tweets were illegal. And it appears to have contributed to spurring the federal government into action — which, on Tuesday, said it had established “sufficient indications of failures” in Twitter’s complaint management processes to start a process that could result in the first penalty for a social media firm for failing to remove illegal content under NetzDG.


Discussing the background to the case, Jun told TechCrunch his firm had reported a number of tweets to the Federal Justice Office (BfJ) last year but were initially told it did not have enough material to establish there was a systemic failure.

“We had reported a number of cases to the [BfJ] at that time, and found that they agreed that these tweets were illegal but said they do not have enough material for a systematic failure. And that’s when a group of volunteers started to systematically search for illegal content and keep reporting that and making a huge database… and they kept submitting that to the [BfJ]. So it’s over 600 cases,” he said.

“The ones that are now subject to the [federal government’s] case appear to be just the first ones. They picked them out because they were all similar in that way — I think they came from the same user and had the same content. That’s probably why they chose those because it would be the easiest case to see that is systematical failure. That it was not a single failure of one content moderator but actually that the vast majority — or all — of reports were wrongly handled.”

Late last year, The New York Times reported on research by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, the Anti-Defamation League and a number of other groups that study online platforms which found major increases in hate speech since Musk took over the platform at the end of October and set about slashing headcount — including cutting staff in Germany and other international offices.

Concerns over Musk’s impact on Twitter’s content moderation in the region has also drawn shots from the EU’s executive, the European Commission, which will be taking up a major oversight role of larger platforms under the Digital Services Act later this year, which will set rules for how services must response to reports of illegal content.


Internal market commissioner, Thierry Breton, warned Musk last November the company has huge work ahead of it to comply with the incoming pan-EU rulebook — under which penalties for breaches can scale up to 6% of global annual turnover. So if Twitter isn’t bankrupt yet, under its erratic and heavily leveraged billionaire owner, it’s facing a cripplingly costly future if Musk keeps thumbing his nose at regulators and ignoring laws he doesn’t like.

Even just in Germany if the BfJ were to act on the 600+ illegal hate speech cases that have already been reported to it that could sum to fines of up to €30 billion for Twitter, based on the maximum penalties set out in the NetzDG law.

Of course a theoretical maximum outcome is unlikely. But there’s clearly no shortage of cases the BfJ could enforce — meaning fines for Musk-owned Twitter’s failures to purge hate speech could nonetheless quickly stack up. And Musk doesn’t have a limitless supply of legacy office furniture to sell to service his debts.

Jun says he expects the first penalty on the tweets the BfJ has taken action on to be set below the maximum — assuming the court confirms they are illegal.

“The law expects fines of up to €50 million for each case. It is possible that at first they will not take the full amount. There’s actually a table… that states the intensity of the failure. So I would expect something between €5M and €20M to be the first fine,” he suggests.


“It will take a little longer time for it to go through the entire procedure because now it is up to the courts to decide if the contents are illegal or not. I’m pretty sure however, they are illegal because they have been subject to court decisions already.”

“I had been putting pressure on the BfJ and the minister for the last seven months,” he adds. “And actually because I thought that the systematical failure had been obvious — with all kinds of crimes committed on Twitter, including child pornography, which also systematically was not taken down in the past. And the same is with most defamation cases — especially those where the legitimacy of a tweet cannot be judged by only the content of the tweet itself, where you have to explore what the truth actually is when defamation is being spread on Twitter.

“And what we saw in the past is that Twitter decided not to take the effort of asking users to provide any proof for what they stay… even though this is being done by other social networks, such as Google, or [other social] networks in Germany.”

No one would suggest that Twitter, pre-Musk, was doing a perfect job of content moderation. Far from it. And it remains curious that Germany has not pursued any social media firms for failing to comply with NetzDG’s content takedowns requirements up to now (after all, the law has been in force since 2017).

But if Musk has done anything fast it’s scorch trust with regulators and lawmakers — by doing things like gutting resources for content moderation and sacking policy staff whose job it was to engage in dialogue with regulators over contested speech issues in order to press the company’s case — which means the institutions he loves to mock have little recourse but to assume the worst and just get on with applying the law.
 

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Elon Musk’s Twitter has been fined with $30 billion in Germany (which is more than Twitter is currently worth) over Twitter’s repeated “systemic failures” to comply with Germany’s “hate speech” laws.

Good. Hopes it intensifies harder and harder until he’s forced to sell it. Things are getting heated for him in Brazil too. The guy is a loser. One of the lamest person I’ve had the displeasure of knowing the existence of. Andrew Tate and him can both rot for all I care.
 
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Goverment here said if Twitter didnt comply it will be clocked here.
Twitter claims to have taken down 546 profiles with threats to attack schools.

So they are now helping or at least predenting to help with the goverment?
 
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Holy shit, has twitter just opened the floodgates the past couple of days?

I'm getting ads/promos/suggested posts. I'm scrolling past unrelated bullshit, because someone I follow might have replied or liked that status. I already manually turned off the "retweets".

All I want in my twitter feed are the statuses (not replies, retweets, likes etc), of the people I follow
 

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Holy shit, has twitter just opened the floodgates the past couple of days?

I'm getting ads/promos/suggested posts. I'm scrolling past unrelated bullshit, because someone I follow might have replied or liked that status. I already manually turned off the "retweets".

All I want in my twitter feed are the statuses (not replies, retweets, likes etc), of the people I follow
Elon's twitter is a festering pile of shit. I think I'll disable my account because it's infested with ads, unrelated posts in threads, terrible loading issues, bot problem hasn't gone away at all, dude is basically treating it as some toy that he can break at will. Fuck billionaires fr.
 
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so much for being for "free speech"

After Matt Taibbi Leaves Twitter, Elon Musk ‘Shadow Bans’ All Of Taibbi’s Tweets, Including The Twitter Files​



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from the a-show-in-three-acts dept​


Mon, Apr 10th 2023 09:15am - Mike Masnick

The refrain to remember with Twitter under Elon Musk: it can always get dumber.


Quick(ish) recap:


On Thursday, Musk’s original hand-picked Twitter Files scribe, Matt Taibbi, went on Mehdi Hasan’s show (which Taibbi explicitly demanded from Hasan, after Hasan asked about Taibbi’s opinions on Musk blocking accounts for Modi in India). The interview did not go well for Taibbi in the same manner that finding an iceberg did not go well for the Titanic.


One segment of the absolutely brutal interview involves Hasan asking Taibbi the very question that Taibbi had said he wanted to come on the show to answer: what was his opinion of Musk blocking Twitter accounts in India, including those of journalists and activists, that were critical of the Modi government? Hasan notes that Taibbi has talked up how he believes Musk is supporting free speech, and asked Taibbi if he’d like to criticize the blocking of journalists.


Taibbi refused to do so, and claimed he doesn’t really know about the story, even though it was the very story that Hasan initially tweeted about that resulted in Taibbi saying he’d tell Hasan his opinion on the story if he was invited on the show. It was, well, embarrassing to watch Taibbi squirm as he knew he couldn’t say anything critical about Musk. He already saw how the second Twitter Files scribe, Bari Weiss, was ex-communicated from the Church of Musk for criticizing Musk’s banning of journalists.


The conversation was embarrassing in real time:


Hasan: What’s interesting about Elon Musk is that, we’ve checked, you’ve tweeted over thirty times about Musk since he announced he was going to buy Twitter last April, and not a word of criticism about him in any of those thirty plus tweets. Musk is a billionaire who’s been found to have violated labor laws multiples times, including in the past few days. He’s attacked labor unions, reportedly fired employees on a whim, slammed the idea of a wealth tax. Told his millions of followers to vote Republican last year, and in response to a right-wing coup against Bolivian leftist President Evo Morales tweeted “we’ll coup whoever we want.”
And yet, you’ve been silent on all that.
How did you go, Matt, from being the scourge of Wall St. The man who called Goldman Sachs the Vampire Squid, to be unwilling to say anything critical at all about this right wing reactionary anti-union billionaire.

Taibbi: Look….[long pause… then a sigh]. So… so… I like Elon Musk. I met him. This is part of the calculation when you do one of these stories. Are they going to give you information that’s gonna make you look stupid. Do you think their motives are sincere about doing x or y…. I did. I thought his motives were sincere about the Twitter Files. And I admired them. I thought he did a tremendous public service in opening the files up. But that doesn’t mean I have to agree with him about everything.
Hasan: I agree with you. But you never disagree with him. You’ve gone silent. Some would say that’s access journalism.
Taibbi: No! No. I haven’t done… I haven’t reported anything that limits my ability to talk about Elon Musk…
Hasan: So will you criticize him today? For banning journalists, for working with Modi government to shut down speech, for being anti-union. You can go for it. I’ll give you as much time as you’d like. Would you like to criticize Musk now?
Taibbi: No, I don’t particularly want to… uh… look, I didn’t criticize him really before… uh… and… I think that what the Twitter Files are is a step in the right direction…
Hasan: But it’s the same Twitter he’s running right now…
Taibbi: I don’t have to disagree with him… if you wanna ask… a question in bad faith…
[crosstalk]

Hasan: It’s not in bad faith, Matt!
Taibbi: It absolutely is!
Hasan: Hold on, hold on, let me finish my question. You saying that he’s good for Twitter and good for speech. I’m saying that he’s using Twitter to help one of the most rightwing governments in the world censor speech. I will criticize that. Will you?
Taibbi: I have to look at the story first. I’m not looking at it now!
By Friday, that exchange became even more embarrassing. Because, due to a separate dispute that Elon was having with Substack (more on that in a bit), he decided to arbitrarily bar anyone from retweeting, replying, or even liking any tweet that had a Substack link in it. But Taibbi’s vast income stems from having one of the largest paying Substack subscriber bases. So, in rapid succession he announced that he was leaving Twitter, and would rely on Substack, and that this would likely limit his ability to continue working on the Twitter Files. Minutes later, Elon Musk unfollowed Taibbi on Twitter.


Quite a shift in the Musk/Taibbi relationship in 24 hours.


Then came Saturday. First Musk made up some complete bullshit about both Substack and Taibbi, claiming that Taibbi was an employee of Substack, and also that Substack was violating their (rapidly changing to retcon whatever petty angry outburst Musk has) API rules.