How would Sony get a "much larger game library" than a platform that can run any PC game known in history?
You think Sony is going to put the PS5 hardware running windows games now?
First PS5 Pro Previews are coming up
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You think Sony is going to put the PS5 hardware running windows games now?
The same cost savings can be applied in the future in creating cheaper PS5 server blades and cheaper PS6 server blades.
Let me put it this way. Sony could put out a Series S type PS5 that has similar hardware, but a smaller GPU, but with the enhancements of the new Pro SOC including machine learning in order to deliver 1080p or 1440p.
The same is true of the server blades.
Where is the equivalent AMD hardware?
I guess it depends on what you mean by themselves. But yes, Cerny's team developed PSSR, not AMD. AMD is able to use the techniques developed in PSSR.
We'll see. If Sony puts out a PS Handheld using PSSR, I think a lot of people are going to support it.
The keyword there is multiplications. You're running out of room here.
Yes, you think Sony can just make a weaker SoC than the PS5's and it will magically run at PS5 settings because the new SoC runs PiSSeR.
Yes, it's as stupid and ignorant as all your other ideas so far.
PiSSeR needs per-game developer intervention, so unless you think Sony is going to mandate all PS5 games released so far to implement PiSSeR (which wouldn't be beneath any of your other equally stupid ideas), it's not going to happen.
Who the fuck do you think made the PS5 Pro's SoC you genius?
Do you think Mark Cerny designed the Zen 2 cores and RDNA4 GPU at his home, then told AMD "okay, now just take this to TSMC and print it"?
LOL no, console makers don't develop hardware blocks for AMD. And it wouldn't make any sense for Sony to develop PiSSeR all by themselves when they need to comply with AMD's CPU and GPU instruction sets.
Mark Cerny isn't even an employee of Sony, he's a contractor paid to visit dev houses and raise a list of requirements and suggestions. Mark Cerny "and his team" (whomever you think those are) doesn't develop AI-based upscalers.
Your extreme fanboyism made you delirious.
You tried really hard, my troll friend.
Makes sense I guess... But that's not why I do at least kind of like PSSR. But yeah as long as there's games that can be played without the whole streaming/cloud thing so am I good!
Yes exactly and that was the right thing to do for sure.
And yes that would have made me sense... But it is what it is. I hope MS does that with the upcoming Xbox console though... Which I hope is only one instead of two and then maybe a handheld Xbox console that's good as well. But if it's not good then oh well there's always what Nintendo offers and maybe that handheld Sony is working on!
Makes sense I guess... But that's not why I do at least kind of like PSSR. But yeah as long as there's games that can be played without the whole streaming/cloud thing so am I good!
PSSR is the most important thing to Sony at the moment as it allows them to keep pushing the boundaries on graphical fidelity which has made them best in class in the industry.
It allows them to push this tech in the cloud, on consoles, and also very importantly on handheld.
Nintendo has to get AI upscaling right on Switch 2 otherwise they're going to be in a big competition with Sony, especially if Sony ends up moving to ARM for their handheld though that's going to require a feat in engineering as well.
Agreed... It was indeed a smart move and I'm glad that Sony is trying new things out in the console space, on handhelds and wherever they feel like it'll be useful.
And in regards to Nintendo... Well I hope that they're using DLSS or something as that would benefit them and make the NS 2 much better than if it didn't use any kind of AI/Up-scaling technology. So I hope we get to know if that's the case or not before the NS 2 launches some time in Q1-Q3 2025.
This may seem random but.. I don't know, choosing to leave the CPU untouched just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It reinforces the worst aspects of modern gaming. Games are getting shinier but less complex when it comes to things like AI, dynamism and persistence etc. from world building to story.
This is more a problem with you and your understanding of things.
This is not a PS6, it's still going to run PS5 games. You could not get significant gains on CPU without drastically increasing the price of the PS5 Pro and you would not get more complex games, at best you would get a higher frame rate on games that were CPU limited.
They've accomplished getting more gains on those games with a 10% CPU boost to ensure steadier framerates.
So it's not random, it's just ignorant.
Agree completely.
Lets not forget the biggest reason for not changing CPU is for compatibility with the PS5 game library.
Changing CPU can potentially open a can of worms for Sony. Better safe than sorry.
Nice... I'm very happy to see the list becoming bigger every week! I wonder what's next though?
Nice... I'm very happy to see the list becoming bigger every week! I wonder what's next though?
Returnal not being on the list is a real surprise. I don't think the studio size is a good excuse here.
Surprised to see EA update their sports game but not T2 with NBA 2K25 a game literally bundled with the PS5 right now, though maybe that's the reason why it ISN'T get an update.
I think Helldivers is the only Sony game released this year that isn't get a patch, well that and MLB The Show, but I guess we're closer to MLB The Show 25 than we are MLB The Show 24 and the world series will be over before the PS5 Pro launches. Nothing from Destiny 2 yet either.
The biggest titles that are surprising are Wukong, Elden Ring, Warhammer, Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy 16, Genshin Impact, and the lack of fighting game updates outside of MK1.
I agree all of these games do need to be PS5 Pro Enhanced as well... And I hope it won't take too long though!
Unfortunately there are probably diminishing returns for some of these games. Especially when more games are PS5 Pro Enhanced.
If all games are PS5 Pro enhanced, there is no real competitive advantage to being so as well, not unless the PS5 Pro turned into a much larger percentage of the userbase.
I think Sony kind of delivered on the Pro a bit too late in the generation. This needed to come out last year.
Well I guess not everything can be good or the way we want it to be... But it is what it is.
Hmm well yeah maybe... But it would also be a bad thing as it would maybe have been less powerful and missing some features so I guess it coming out this year still makes at least kind of sense though
Well I guess not everything can be good or the way we want it to be... But it is what it is.
Hmm well yeah maybe... But it would also be a bad thing as it would maybe have been less powerful and missing some features so I guess it coming out this year still makes at least kind of sense though
Rumor is the PS5 Pro design has been locked down for more than a year. I'm guessing ultimately PSSR wasn't ready last year and neither was FSR4.
Not the biggest deal, we're probably talking about a difference of 3-5 million units lifetime, but in an ideal world, you would have had this ready with Spider-Man 2.