Nobody asked for this on PC or console. Hopefully this flops on ps as well so Sony understands that 8th generation games need no remasters.
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered flops on Steam
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Are we talking about the same people who just a few months ago released the biggest flop ever in gaming? Yeah they're really dumb and we clearly know better than them. It's really easy when you tell everyone that your console isn't must own anymore sales can only go down.
It’s so insane how bad PS has perform this gen.
If it wasn’t for Xbox having brain dead leadership pushing PC for “expansion of new gamers” & pushing subscription & poor quality games & Nintendo Switch 1 not having 3rd party support PS is lucky they essentially pass by w no competition but that will certainly change w Switch 2 & Steamdeck/Steam continuing to get more support as Valve & Nintendo double down on there own platform/hardware/storefront.
It’s no surprise over 50% of PS playerbase is still on PS4 4 near 5 years in PS5 & that’s simply PS5 having no exclusive games or a library of exclusive game that was build upon through the gen. Instead PS releases a PS exclusive game then after 1-2 years they port to competing platform suppressing the library of PS only/exclusive games from first party.
Is PS5 really tracking behind PS4? Important to note the last 3 years of PS4 was a high where the middle to end of PS5 looks to be mediocre at best given Herman Hulst said he wanted a minimum of 1 PS first party game per year (output is embarrassing when you compare to Nintendo) Xbox comparing to One to Series S/X have taken over 50% near 75% cut in the hardware/storefront you can only imagine of Xbox was all in w exclusive & had Zenimax & ABK singleplayer games exclusive Gamepass would be over 50 million subscribers compared to the rumored 30 million & if Xbox made those games fully exclusive to Gamepass like Netflix they probably be at 75 million if they focus on quality
Funny enough I wouldn’t put it pas Herman his & Sony/PS leadership mindset have change to follow one of Western of short term profits/growth then long term competitive advantage. Ultimately Nintendo will win the long term race while PS position themselves to a company that follows Xbox/Ubisoft either way it’s bleak
Killzone on this market that lacks 1st person military/sci fi shooters would easily sell 5+ million. Imagine the tech & it wouldn’t have to be ambition it could literally be a linear sci fi/military shooter singleplayer game like COD/Battlefield or Uncharted & ensure a mature & gritty story. They could also push live service a Killzone multiplayer it might not be the biggest thing in the world or do well on PC (the multiplayer itself) but on PS there could easily be 25k-50k on PS alone playing the multiplayer even ensure it hits PS4 & PS5 to have a big enough playerbase
Insomniac Games Leak: Multiple Software Unit Sales and Profitability for Past and Future Releases (Read Threadmark)
I think those projections are outdated, here are some more recent budget numbers: Ratchet & Clank PS4 Budget: $68.5 million Spider-Man 2 PS5 Budget: - $165.2 million studio costs - $5.6 million FPQA - $8.6 million PDSG - $5.4 million Global Loc - $0.1 million User Testing - $0.1 million Other...
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What about all the failures from those millionaires in the past (and present)?
How is SEGA's console business doing?
What about ATARI?
Remember the success Google had with Stadia?
If that’s the case why not make the PS5 remaster an exclusive & really push PS5 pro & you can sell it for existing owners for $10 maybe tie it w more dlc or multiplayer coop idk.
The simultaneous release will equate to it not doing much on either PS or PC. PC players won’t buy it & PS players both existing & potentially new will buy it on PS5 or buy a PS5.
Overall this remastered was not needed & they should’ve remaster/remake the Killzone psp/ps vita games to release them on modern PS console (PS4 & PS5)
7 million for the PC port of Spider-Man 3 in 2027 when the game is supposed to come out in 2028. Sounds like day and date to me.Insomniac Games Leak: Multiple Software Unit Sales and Profitability for Past and Future Releases (Read Threadmark)
I think those projections are outdated, here are some more recent budget numbers: Ratchet & Clank PS4 Budget: $68.5 million Spider-Man 2 PS5 Budget: - $165.2 million studio costs - $5.6 million FPQA - $8.6 million PDSG - $5.4 million Global Loc - $0.1 million User Testing - $0.1 million Other...
ANALYSTS: Consoles don't need exclusives, they can sell on features!
ME: What features does PlayStation have that aren't already covered by PC and better on that platform?
PS6 better have some DAMN GOOD improvement on current features and new features altogether because if SIE do go Day 1 on PC for the big games, those early adopter PS6 numbers are going to track at or even below PS3's rough launch.
Because you know the PS3 still had some actual exclusives at launch, and I'd argue combination of Nintendo & Steam around 2028'll be more competition than 360 was in '06. Doesn't even take into account if the next Xbox devices are more PC-like with alternative storefront access. That'll just make things that much harder for a PS6.
So many people don't get this. Yes, I'm sure Sony is basing their decisions on some data. They're not doing it at random. But to pretend these companies and the people in charge are gods that can't do no wrong, is incredibly silly. You already mentioned several companies, let me add another one.
Xbox. A company with HUGE money backing it and people who "know what they're doing" and look how it ended up.
Sony's strategies seem like a scattershot of ideas thrown at random, hoping something sticks. Their GaaS initiative is a complete failure and will be an even bigger laughing stock when Fairgames flops.
But hey, only about 9 of those GaaS to go. For now, unless they add more...
Will know things have truly gone to waste & know when PS is in a death spiral like Xbox when Herman & PS leadership express there position in the market & the sales to there hardware, subscription, 1st & 3rd party sales, mtx & the entire ecosystem numbers goes down to the iconic “market is changing” when the market for console hasn’t change in the manner they are trying to imply. The market for Xbox consoles didn’t change Xbox themselves change there business same will apply to PS the only one position to grow & gain bigger profits is Nintendo as they double down on hardware/storefront. It’s actually smart how Nintendo has handled expansion & trying to bring new people into Nintendo consoles or get eyes on Nintendo ip. Nintendo is now expanding to parks (Mario park will likely see a Zelda, Splatton & Pokemon park) there expanding to cross media, double downing on merchandise & toys & other forms like food etc.
Where tf is a Horizok park w a roller coaster & robot dinosaur. Where is the Demon Souls/Bloodborne park/castle. Where is the Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, Littlebigplaney animated film/anime. Where is the loco roco gummy bears. Even w VR a space where PS has experience w like the traditional PS console there failing they lack exclusive games, exclusive content, there first party is abysmal atleast when you compare to Nintendo who are truly PS direct competitors.
Remember, boys and girls. We have that Days Gone remaster coming. That one surely won't flop, right? Who needs new games when you can remaster old ones. Yay!
Over 50% nearly 75% of Xbox console playerbase have migrated to other platforms if argued if PS went day n date they would loose more as Steamdeck & PC will fully replace PS as they have Xbox, PS, PC & Valve/Steam exclusive + no online subscription + cheaper games then on the PS storefront + moreSpider Man 3 launching on PC day one was in the Insomniac leak along with their entire roadmap. People thinking that the majority of console players such as myself are going to jump to PC while spending thousands of dollars more to do so is nonsensical. Those who jump from console to PC are those who were already going to do it anyway and you're not going to prevent them from jumping to PC but it wouldn't matter because Sony would still be making revenue off of those people from buying the game on Steam/Epic.
What's even funnier is people believing that after seeing what they've seen the last four years from Sony that they're not going to be day and date or believe that the console install base is going to somehow grow when in reality, it's stagnating. All Sony is doing is retaining those that they already had which isn't growth but im sure (rolls eyes) that everyone here knows better than those who are millionaires running these companies but good luck with all of that.
I'm just here to enjoy the ride while playing games on PlayStation. Whatever Sony decides to do, they do. Luckily for me, it doesn't affect me whatsofuckingever.
Nintendo is also double downing I will get more 3rd party if not all w switch 2 so why get a PS when you can play the same 3rd party as similar performance to PS while getting Nintendo true & permanent exclusive games.
At least, they would remaster right ones. Game is already looking great, we need other games to be remastered.
7 million for the PC port of Spider-Man 3 in 2027 when the game is supposed to come out in 2028. Sounds like day and date to me.Insomniac Games Leak: Multiple Software Unit Sales and Profitability for Past and Future Releases (Read Threadmark)
I think those projections are outdated, here are some more recent budget numbers: Ratchet & Clank PS4 Budget: $68.5 million Spider-Man 2 PS5 Budget: - $165.2 million studio costs - $5.6 million FPQA - $8.6 million PDSG - $5.4 million Global Loc - $0.1 million User Testing - $0.1 million Other...
Sounds like more bullshit from you.
Why isn’t the entire Spider-Man 3 budget included with the PC port if it is Day 1?
Shouldn’t it be shared between PS and PC? You telling me it will cost 14 million to develop?
What’s with you morons always chucking the entire budget on Playstation ports?
A 7 million budget means the game is already done and then 7 million allocated to the PC Port.
That DOES NOT mean Day 1 but coming later.
Honestly the length you guys go to.
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I’d kill for a simple Socom 2/3 remake or inFMAOUS remake.
Not sure why PS doesn’t just make smaller scope/smaller budget multiplayer game & release them across PS & Mobile that can grow & be more experimental. Give me a TLOU/Uncharted top down survival game like the old flash Boxhead games something simple, small that could gain a community on mobile devices but also available on PS4 & PS5.
Or a London set The GetAway. GTA meets London from PS studios a singleplayer game w a side multiplayer