I love how last gen all these ‘next gen’ only games look

[Deleted member 13]

That makes absolutely no sense. A new generation defines itself so a game made for PS5/Xbox Series X that makes the most out of it is current gen by definition, just like it was the case for every generation that came before. If you have some outlandish expectation that not even high-end Nvidia/AMD GPUs clearly something isn't right with your definition of what current-gen/next-gen means.

Exactly. Everyone has their own definition. We need a standard non-subjective one. Should we say any game that's only written for PS5/XSX is considered next-gen? What if the game has the exact same features developed last gen with no RT? Should a game with RT of just one feature be considered next-gen or several RT features? If a game has no Nanite for high res geometry, should it be considered last-gen? Etc..etc.. I'll discuss it later though.

 

[nominedomine]

Exactly. Everyone has their own definition. We need a standard non-subjective one. Should we say any game that's only written for PS5/XSX is considered next-gen? What if the game has the exact same features developed last gen with no RT? Should a game with RT of just one feature be considered next-gen or several RT features? If a game has no Nanite for high res geometry, should it be considered last-gen? Etc..etc.. I'll discuss it later though.

Since when do we need a standard non-subjective definition for something that hardly matters that is probably subjective by definition anyway?

RT this, RT that, Unreal 5, boring.

So to you what were eighth gen games?

 

[ksdixon]

Didn't know you had surgery. Any program you can dictate / speech to text it?
Just an idea. I see my kids use those sometimes.

Microsoft Word has a dictate button.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Yeah UE5 won’t be the magic bullet that brings games into the next generation. You still need talented devs, time, and a lot of money.

God of War is getting pretty close as a crossgen game though.

 

[DynamiteCop]

There's really not a lot of places to go from things like this right now.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

There's really not a lot of places to go from things like this right now.

*Naughty Dog enters the mid gen room

 

[DynamiteCop]

*Naughty Dog enters the mid gen room

We'll see how they do in a situation without baked lighting. Point is the technology for now is pretty much ceiling'd.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

We'll see how they do in a situation without baked lighting. Point is the technology for now is pretty much ceiling'd.

Until games start looking like the cg trailers theres still a long way to go

And by then CG trailers will look even better. They already scaled back TLOU 2 from the E3 gameplay demo they showed

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Microsoft Word has a dictate button.

Is that how @Yurinka and @thicc_girls_are_teh_best write their posts

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Is that how @Yurinka and @thicc_girls_are_teh_best write their posts

It's the only way to really do it, tbh

 

[rofif]

I don’t think it’s a problem of power.
It’s probably a problem of diminishing returns and is just difficult to make games look better than tlou2 all of sudden

 

[azertydu91]

It'll have to wait for my right hand from surgery to heal. I think I will write it.

Oh I hope you'll recover well and that you aren't too handicapped by it, especially if you are right handed (there's 90% chance that you are).

 

[kyliethicc]

I don’t think it’s a problem of power.
It’s probably a problem of diminishing returns and is just difficult to make games look better than tlou2 all of sudden

Getting the max of of the hardware is out of reach now for most developers.

The limits now for most games are time, money, and resources. Not CPU, GPU, RAM, etc.

 

[ParaSeoul]

Shit devs gonna be shit no matter the hardware.

 

[Theap99]

Some studios will just drop last gen cus they don't have the time or effort to optimize

 

[Remember_Spinal]

I have a feeling most people are gonna be really surprised by how The Last of Us Part 1 looks. I think it will end up looking much better than part 2

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

PS5 and XSX are capable of calculating much more complex physics, animations, and AI, but I don't think developers has the resources to put all of that in games. 90% of developers switched back to pixel games because they simply have no money to build 3d games.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It's just become a marketing ploy more than anything. Obviously it's still beneficial to do away with last gen, but Gotham Knights, Redfall, Hell even Demon's Souls, Returnal and Starfield. All of these games could have gotten last-gen ports and I doubt it would have affected current gen in any capacity.

With all the talk about bloated development budgets and games taking to long to make, I've come to terms with "next-gen" being a once in a blue moon experience from a very small subset of developers.

I think even Rockstar is going to start dialing it down eventually. I doubt they're happy with how long it's taking them push out games.

 

[Cragarmi]

It's just become a marketing ploy more than anything. Obviously it's still beneficial to do away with last gen, but Gotham Knights, Redfall, Hell even Demon's Souls, Returnal and Starfield. All of these games could have gotten last-gen ports and I doubt it would have affected current gen in any capacity.

With all the talk about bloated development budgets and games taking to long to make, I've come to terms with "next-gen" being a once in a blue moon experience from a very small subset of developers.

I think even Rockstar is going to start dialing it down eventually. I doubt they're happy with how long it's taking them push out games.

Disagree on Returnal, would be surprised if it was able to run without a SSD, and Demon Souls would have to so significantly reduce asset complexity, it would look like a different game. If you watch the NoClip documentary on the making of Demon Souls for PS5 you will see what I mean.

 

[kyliethicc]

It's just become a marketing ploy more than anything. Obviously it's still beneficial to do away with last gen, but Gotham Knights, Redfall, Hell even Demon's Souls, Returnal and Starfield. All of these games could have gotten last-gen ports and I doubt it would have affected current gen in any capacity.

With all the talk about bloated development budgets and games taking to long to make, I've come to terms with "next-gen" being a once in a blue moon experience from a very small subset of developers.

I think even Rockstar is going to start dialing it down eventually. I doubt they're happy with how long it's taking them push out games.

Welcome Ass Can, great news we have the real @Jim Ryan here with us.