In their debut week, Hi-Fi Rush reportedly outperformed Forspoken on Steam

Gods&Monsters

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Wow better get a lottery ticket you are on fire. Nobody talks about Rollerdrome anymore either does that mean it was bad
Where was the hype for Rollerdrome? I don't remember PS fans including it on every warrior list, changing their avatars, calling it GOTY and posting trophy stats.

It was just a random drop. We get many.
 
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I don't know why we're complaining about completion achievements on games that literally just came out. Some people have lives outside of video games.

I think games like Hi-FI Rush gravitate more with the Steam audience, in all honesty. I mean look at what's in the current Top 10 Concurrent:

NameCurrent PlayersLast 30 DaysPeak PlayersHours Played
1.Counter-Strike: Global Offensive1,074,0591,199,684531,471,443
2.Dota 2546,183764,490316,854,619
3.PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS415,546465,423150,716,581
4.Apex Legends394,122413,670145,419,573
5.Goose Goose Duck355,119701,89889,882,395
6.Lost Ark157,691333,008129,123,584
7.Grand Theft Auto V150,772176,52881,669,615
8.Wallpaper Engine125,540134,45958,791,043
9.Team Fortress 2100,719137,75469,961,488
10.NARAKA: BLADEPOINT96,940124,91336,882,248

None of these are story-heavy games (GTA5 being in there is almost exclusively for GTA Online), they are MP-centric and can be enjoyed in short stretches of 2 or so hours while getting your fill with them. A lot of them are also very colorful and less "serious" types of game (well in the case of Goose Goose Duck), and run well on lower-end hardware specs.

Forspoken doesn't really meet any of those criteria, while HiFi Rush does. It's also less than half the price of Forspoken so, all things considered, it's not surprising it's outsold Forspoken on Steam. It's a game that caters more to Steam's gaming audience, it's a rather short game, vibrant/colorful, not really epic/serious in storytelling or being cinematic, seems experimental in an "indie" kind of way etc.

Forspoken's mixed reviews probably also didn't help, and while it's a niche factor, I have heard Steam has a problem with certain, <ahem>, "problematic" groups part of fascist communities who would have very ridiculous reasons to try suppressing Forspoken review scores or reception. Again, probably a fringe factor but a release as advertised as Forspoken would probably attract some of those types to counter it on fraudulent grounds.

I think what's more concerning are the completion rates for HiFi Rush on Xbox, apparently it's less than 1%. How does this keep happening? First Pentiment, now this game. Is it just a lot of big talk from diehards in that community when they get a game like this yet, none of them actually invest serious time into them? HiFi's like an 8-hour game, you could beat it in a weekend between two afternoons if you wanted.
This makes no sense when 11 months ago Elden Ring had nearly a million concurrent players.

A fascist conspiracy? Lmao what are you on about?
 

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This makes no sense when 11 months ago Elden Ring had nearly a million concurrent players.

A fascist conspiracy? Lmao what are you on about?
That is actual daily.

For example all time Concurrent Players for PUBG is 3,257,248... Counter Strike is 1,308,963.

Elden Ring peaked at 953,426 (never crossed 1 million).
Actual daily is 81k so it is not in the TOP10.

You can see it here: https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed

Hi-Fi is not in the TOP100 that means less than 8.5k.
 
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Wow better get a lottery ticket you are on fire. Nobody talks about Rollerdrome anymore either does that mean it was bad
Who said anything about it being bad? Don’t project your feelings on me 😂
It will be forgotten regardless
 

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That is actual daily.

For example all time Concurrent Players for PUBG is 3,257,248... Counter Strike is 1,308,963.

Elden Ring peaked at 953,426 (never crossed 1 million).
Actual daily is 81k so it is not in the TOP10.

You can see it here: https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed
Hence why I said nearly.

It counters the argument that single player games don't sell or aren't played on the platform. Bad single player games don't sell.
 

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Who said anything about it being bad? Don’t project your feelings on me 😂
It will be forgotten regardless

So you only wanted to point out that indie games don't remain in the news for very long. Do you have a podcast?
 

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So you only wanted to point out that indie games don't remain in the news for very long. Do you have a podcast?
stop crying ffs. If adams can make a provocative post, I can too. Stop being a whiny child please
 

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I said people would be talking about Elden Ring months after release.....and guess what?

I will be launching a website soon people need exposure to these provocative ideas
 

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So you only wanted to point out that indie games don't remain in the news for very long. Do you have a podcast?

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You just won the internet my friend.
 
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A $30 AA game outselling a $70 AAA game in terms of revenue


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I honestly think that the forspoken has burried itself with the revie scores not helping it (neither did the word of mouth).

Hi-fi Rush is just something else, I doubt that there was someone who hesitated to buy forspoken this week and when they saw hi-fi rush being released they said "oh, I'll get this one instead".

It's like saying that GoW:R prevented the sales of (insert x game released in the same week).
 
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According to Steamdb these are the current numbers of Forspoken vs Hi-Fi Rush:
  • All time concurrent users peak: 12579 vs 6132
  • Amount of reviews: 3382 vs 3924
  • Owner estimations by reviews: 77.6k-213.5k vs 78.5k-215.8k
  • Owner estimations by PlayTracker: 73.9k vs 44.7k
  • Owner estimations by VG Insights: 103.4k vs 75.2k
  • Owner estimations by SteamSpy: 124k vs 59k
Excluding the owner estimation by reviews that thing Hi-Fi Rush has a very small lead, all the other estimations show a bigge difference on Forspoken's favor.
 

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According to Steamdb these are the current numbers of Forspoken vs Hi-Fi Rush:
  • All time concurrent users peak: 12579 vs 6132
  • Amount of reviews: 3382 vs 3924
  • Owner estimations by reviews: 77.6k-213.5k vs 78.5k-215.8k
  • Owner estimations by PlayTracker: 73.9k vs 44.7k
  • Owner estimations by VG Insights: 103.4k vs 75.2k
  • Owner estimations by SteamSpy: 124k vs 59k
Excluding the owner estimation by reviews that thing Hi-Fi Rush has a very small lead, all the other estimations show a bigge difference on Forspoken's favor.
Even High on Life had a peak of 11.6k.

Ghostwire Tokyo, their last game that was also considered a big flop, had a peak of 14k.

Phil Spencer, in his quest to get "more people" to play their games actually killed any chance for Tango to find new fans on Switch/Playstation.

Hi-Fi Rush was made for haptics and the Nintendo crowd. Sad.

I fear for Tango's future.
 

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According to Steamdb these are the current numbers of Forspoken vs Hi-Fi Rush:
  • All time concurrent users peak: 12579 vs 6132
  • Amount of reviews: 3382 vs 3924
  • Owner estimations by reviews: 77.6k-213.5k vs 78.5k-215.8k
  • Owner estimations by PlayTracker: 73.9k vs 44.7k
  • Owner estimations by VG Insights: 103.4k vs 75.2k
  • Owner estimations by SteamSpy: 124k vs 59k
Excluding the owner estimation by reviews that thing Hi-Fi Rush has a very small lead, all the other estimations show a bigge difference on Forspoken's favor.
Game is mostly forgotten already. It’ll never reach Stray’s status
 
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I wouldn't call Hifi rush a flop, but a 100-200k seller is not a system seller like all the warriors are pretending it to be. It's just another good indie game, of which there are dozens every year. The only difference is that xbox is so starved of content that they need to big up this as if it's the second coming. It shows that there's actually no hype behind starfield or redfall because if there were they'd be talking about those games instead.
 
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