Is Several Graphical Modes Something That Harm More Than Help Console Users?
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I dont want trade offs on console.
I don’t want to feel like this one mode is for suckers and other is for players
Well, I don't care how you feel about it.
There is a tradeoff, it does not matter if you get decide what you like or someone else (at the studio, they will probably whatever is more popular in that case).
So having two or three profiles makes sense, consider the default whatever the creators intended.
Also, on PS5 you get to choose in advance if you prefer "performance" or "quality".
When I played a game on ps4... let's say uncharted 4.
I just played it. I had no comparison to how much better it can look or how much better it can run.
Now you have this comparison and you know that no matter which of three modes you pick, you will miss on some experience of other two modes.
It's psychology. You don't loose what you don't see....
And as for ps5 games, the choice is different game per game. I might l prefer quality modes but it very much depends on the game and DF analysis
This is hilarious coming from the guy who hates on PC left and right yet fails to realize PC is best suited for him because it's the only platform capable of no trade offs.
Lmao
Rofif is one confusing ass dude IMO.
Honestly how do you buy a 3080, complain about it endlessly and say it's not worth it. Then he says before he plays any game he goes to the PC gaming wiki... Like wut? Bro I game on Linux and never used the wiki
That’s why I have a pc.
What Baines you think I don’t realise or use that
It’s not about not having trade offs. There will always be some.
It’s about being exposed to it
I agree, but I also believe that the developers tend to choose "graphics" over responsiveness too often... So having a performance mode, alongside the bullshot mode, makes sense for those who want it.That’s why I have a pc.
What Baines you think I don’t realise or use that
It’s not about not having trade offs. There will always be some.
It’s about being exposed to it
nobody want's just bullshot mode that is the thing.
I want to play a good looking game.
Not to look at good looking game and then play a game that is not looking like that.
All they have to do is take care and d some proper optimalization and not botch 30fps lock like demons souls
30fps is broken by default, these modes only ever existed in games that the consoles could not run at full refresh (that was 60 until recently).
Current consoles are good enough to give us good looking games that run at normal speed.
It's not true.
30fps modes are just 16ms slower than 60fps mode.
Not 75ms slower like DF demonstrated. Bad vsynced 30fps can be terrible laggy and hard to play. But good 30fps with good motion blur, can be perfectly fine with a controller. Nothing broken about it.
Digital Foundry - PC vs PlayStation 5 Input Lag (Nvidia Reflex)
I am always hearing how consoles are slower and more laggy than PC. It is clearly a myth nowadays... to some degree! In the reality, I can force triple buffering, enable vrr, force -3fps vrr cap or disable vsync. There are many ways to tweak this and achieve good results. But at the core...
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And if you say "f this, I don't care fr 30fps"... then be aware that this exact issue is just as well lowering input lag in 60fps games. These probably also could be faster
no sh*t Johnny !It's not true.
30fps modes are just 16ms slower than 60fps mode.
Not 75ms slower like DF demonstrated. Bad vsynced 30fps can be terrible laggy and hard to play. But good 30fps with good motion blur, can be perfectly fine with a controller. Nothing broken about it.
check out the vid. It's interesting and shows how 30fps implementation can differ.Digital Foundry - PC vs PlayStation 5 Input Lag (Nvidia Reflex)
I am always hearing how consoles are slower and more laggy than PC. It is clearly a myth nowadays... to some degree! In the reality, I can force triple buffering, enable vrr, force -3fps vrr cap or disable vsync. There are many ways to tweak this and achieve good results. But at the core...
And if you say "f this, I don't care fr 30fps"... then be aware that this exact issue is just as well lowering input lag in 60fps games. These probably also could be faster
I mean, it feels broken, no matter how "well implemented" it may be.
I'll play the 30fps version if there is nothing else, but it still feels like a slideshow, you can somehow get used to it (the og TLoU often dropped in the mid 20s, like many games of this generation, we played them anyway).
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I don't think this is harmful to consoles. In fact, they should have more modes like a PC does. That's how I use the Steam Deck anyway. I'm allowed to select what I want to see and/or what I want the game to run at performance-wise.
30fps is just fine to play games... nothing is wrong about it.
So tlou1 remake is example of weird modes since if you have 120hz tv, fidelity mode will default to terrible 40fps mode which is rarely 40….
The game is much sharper in fidelity mode on my c1 so for sure I am playing that. But I have a hard time deciding 30 vs 40fps modes. I am leaning towards 30fps mode so console 120hz set to off and vrr also off since it’s not doing anything at 30 right?
I tested 40fps mode with vrr and you can see gamma changing on oled. It’s unstable
And I even have hard time deciding if I like film grain here or not
The game is much sharper in fidelity mode on my c1 so for sure I am playing that. But I have a hard time deciding 30 vs 40fps modes. I am leaning towards 30fps mode so console 120hz set to off and vrr also off since it’s not doing anything at 30 right?
I tested 40fps mode with vrr and you can see gamma changing on oled. It’s unstable
And I even have hard time deciding if I like film grain here or not
Would like to see only 2 modes..
High quality 30fps target & High Performance 60 FPS target....with unlock Framerate toggle. That's it
High quality 30fps target & High Performance 60 FPS target....with unlock Framerate toggle. That's it
The VRR will work in the 30fps mode in this game as they are doing the frame doubling with anything below 60. Low frame rate compensation or whatever it’s called.So tlou1 remake is example of weird modes since if you have 120hz tv, fidelity mode will default to terrible 40fps mode which is rarely 40….
The game is much sharper in fidelity mode on my c1 so for sure I am playing that. But I have a hard time deciding 30 vs 40fps modes. I am leaning towards 30fps mode so console 120hz set to off and vrr also off since it’s not doing anything at 30 right?
I tested 40fps mode with vrr and you can see gamma changing on oled. It’s unstable
And I even have hard time deciding if I like film grain here or not
The changing gamma, well that’s a whole other story with VRR. Put 10 sets side by side, get 10 different behaviours.
but to get 4k30, you need to switch to 60hz. I don't think I've ever seen lfc for 60hz.
Anyway... seems like trouble. I've disable 120hz output and disabled vrr. Simple 4k30 is ok.
But if LFC is working with 4k30, then this should produce quite a lot lower input lag
I hate when there are more than 3.
2 options are best
2 options are best
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