Jeff Grubb: A State of Play is scheduled for September

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So is the PS5 Pro being announced during that late september State of Play?



And AAA games nowadays take 5-9 years to be made so it's normal for them to don't have shown their upcoming games specially considering that in recent times Sony announces their games relatively close to release.

No one sets out to take 9 years to make a game, as that means going through a whole generation and failing to meet new demands and features that people become used to. If you're above 6 years, you're probably going through some sort of development hell.

Also, those 5 years are counting with 1 to 2 years of pre-production, a lower-investment phase to lay out the general story and setting ideas, make some playable prototypes, etc.
 
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Folks need to accept the reality they probably don't have enough games to show for a showcase.
 

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Death Standing 2 is likely a lock for this show, having a hard time thinking what else would be a head turner at this event.
 

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Are they gonna announce any 1st party games for 2025 yet? If so, that and the PS5 Pro reveal can make a good showcase already. A sop feels so underwhelming at this point.
The games for 2025 are all live service. Horizon monster hunter, Horizon mobile, Fairgames, Marathon, Ghost of sushi live service component, Bend studio live service component, Neon Koi live service mobile games.

The only singleplayer are death stranding, horizon remake, Venom & maybe Ghost or Cory new ip
 

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2 in case of Bluepoint and 5 in case of Bend (who after it worked in the cancelled TLOU Online), plus most of these teams also released DLC/updates, remakes, remasters or ports and other stuff since then.

And AAA games nowadays take 5-9 years to be made so it's normal for them to don't have shown their upcoming games specially considering that in recent times Sony announces their games relatively close to release.
Bluepoint last game was in 2020 (demon souls)

These studios are likely working on PC ports 💀 or simultaneously working on the PC version of there new game so they release within 1 year, which would be even worse news but not surprising

Someone on here once said Sony didn’t need to buy more studios to make more singleplayer & more multiplayer games. Welp here we are now. Nintendo is about to absolute slaughter PS with Switch 2 releasing a minimum of 5 Nintendo games while also getting more 3rd party if not 3rd party releasing day n date + also getting PS & Xbox games. How did Sony put PS in the same position as Xbox? 💀 more & more there’s less & less of not any real reason to buy future PS consoles or invest in the PS platform.

In the other side Valve has a new exclusive live service w deadlock only available on Steam & other rumors of Half life Alyx & other projects in the work that will be permanent Steam exclusive. PS is a boiling frog, underestimating Valve/Steam & Nintendo will be the death nail of Sony/PS
 
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Sony broke most of their records this generation: revenue, profit, active userbase and a ton of other metrics, like breaking 4 times the launch sales record of a Sony game.

They are basically better than ever and in a multi year growth trend in basically all areas.
Still behind profits against there competitors. Nintendo has 5+ billion in profits compared to PS profits w 1/3 of the revenue.

PS profits driven by more live service then ever, charging $70 for games & higher subscription price. PS output still obsolete compared to competitors (Nintendo)
 
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Yes, every year Sony has a pre-TGS State of Play.


Sony broke most of their records this generation: revenue, profit, active userbase and a ton of other metrics, like breaking 4 times the launch sales record of a Sony game.

They are basically better than ever and in a multi year growth trend in basically all areas.

I'm gonna let you in on a secret: I couldn't give less of a shit about the revenue or profits SIE are making. In fact I don't really care about the sales updates anymore because that's not gaming is about for hobbyists. Never though the boring spreadsheet presentations Sony did back at E3 for PS2 & PS3 would become the new hotness in modern gaming era.

SIE seem more than willing to tell investors of multi-year out plans, but don't value their own customers of the product that got a lot of those investors to buy shares in the first place? Make that make sense. You can keep breaking records while still providing some suitable roadmap to your paying customers, something SIE had no problem doing in the past. Only more recently did that seem to change, and maybe that's a coincidence...

...or maybe it isn't.

Good. Just want to know what's the next PC single player port after until dawn and Ragnarok are out of the way. There were rumours about a gravity rush 2 re release.

Yeah let's get that tombstone ready for PlayStation huh? 😂

Showcases are done. Sony doesn't have enough games for a presentation long 1 hour or more

So they also don't have any 3P marketing deals? No 3P exclusives either? Neither of these would surprise me given the purse clutching that's been happening with SIE the past couple of years.

But it also makes certain claims before the gen started (like those "tons of 3P exclusives from every big publisher" one Irman Khan perpetuated) look even more hilarious in hindsight.

Also would make Microsoft's own FUD during the ABK deal look even more grimy than it was at the time. Either prove games like Black Myth Wukong are PS exclusive (console-wise) due to a marketing deal or STFU.
 
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I'm gonna let you in on a secret: I couldn't give less of a shit about the revenue or profits SIE are making. In fact I don't really care about the sales updates anymore because that's not gaming is about for hobbyists. Never though the boring spreadsheet presentations Sony did back at E3 for PS2 & PS3 would become the new hotness in modern gaming era.

SIE seem more than willing to tell investors of multi-year out plans, but don't value their own customers of the product that got a lot of those investors to buy shares in the first place? Make that make sense. You can keep breaking records while still providing some suitable roadmap to your paying customers, something SIE had no problem doing in the past. Only more recently did that seem to change, and maybe that's a coincidence...

...or maybe it isn't.
These numbers about revenue, MAU, ARPU and so on are factual, objective metrics of what their customers vote with their wallets, so how SIE is performing.

They constantly break several records and keep growing there in basically all areas, which means they are doing a great job understanding what their potential customers want, and giving it to them and in the proper way. These metrics also show in an objective, factual way that they are being very successful and better than ever when looking at the big picture of their market.

If you personally don't like what they do and hate them in your personal, subjective opinion it's ok but it's just that: the personal opinion of just a single customer, out ot over a hundred million customers they have.

Good. Just want to know what's the next PC single player port after until dawn and Ragnarok are out of the way. There were rumours about a gravity rush 2 re release.
I'd say that knowing that they are not working on Bloodborne, the one with the biggest potential of selling on PC is Demon's Souls.

Still behind profits against there competitors. Nintendo has 5+ billion in profits compared to PS profits w 1/3 of the revenue.

PS profits driven by more live service then ever, charging $70 for games & higher subscription price. PS output still obsolete compared to competitors (Nintendo)
This is because Sony prefers to reinvest most their several times bigger revenue on making high end hardware, accesories and specially on making a bigger amount of games and of a bigger budget, plus also signing more 3rd party deals in addition to spending more on acquisitions and investments.

That helps them grow their revenue and profit in the long term. To the point of in some recent quarters to make more profit than Nintendo. Sony will continue their growth trend and they'll end -not far from now- making more profits than Nintendo consistently every single quarter.

Their profit mainly comes from selling games on their console, where they sell way more games than Nintendo every year. But yes, they also make way more money from subscriptions than Nintendo. And also from hardware (but not at a profit here), accesories and revenue outside their own console. In fact, pretty likely their 2nd biggest source of profit after selling games on their own console must be selling 1st party games outside their console: this quarter more than doubled the revenue they made in that segment vs the previous year.
 
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Yes, every year Sony has a pre-TGS State of Play.


Sony broke most of their records this generation: revenue, profit, active userbase and a ton of other metrics, like breaking 4 times the launch sales record of a Sony game.

They are basically better than ever and in a multi year growth trend in basically all areas.
Lol, they made more money and we got less games with worst generation ever. But for some people in this forum, we have to play 4k dollars on OLED VRR 😂
 

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Wouldn't shock me if that is the format for PlayStation from now on. Taking a Nintendo approach by just doing directs no big shows attempting to replicate E3. Sony is not showing all their cards. They are going to show off a game if it is a year out from release. State of Play fits their strategy more than doing showcases. I for one understand that but still would love for a big show once in a while from them.
 
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