Jim Ryan and Hermen are about to relive PS3's strategy of failed multiplayer PVP games. (MAG, Warhawk, SOCOM, Killzone 2 MP)

nongkris

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Sony wants most people to forget that their first attempt at a GAAS game this gen was Destruction All Stars, a generic destruction derby game that was originally supposed to be $70 with an MP mode only but had to pivot to free to play.

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Clearly they learned nothing from this, and instead are hoping that a PC release on Day 1 will be enough to make their GAAS games a success. Not to mention the unique challenges that come with making PvP games that Sony seems to be favoring, which even Bungie is struggling with as the PvP portion of Destiny (Crucible) has low player count.

At least with PvE games like GTA Online, Destiny main game, you could still have a hint of storytelling that is not possible with generic deathmatch/extraction modes.

Insomniac, the shining party of Playstation first party this generation, will eventually be compromised with having to make a likely PC multiplayer game
 

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Sony wants most people to forget that their first attempt at a GAAS game this gen was Destruction All Stars, a generic destruction derby game that was originally supposed to be $70 with an MP mode only but had to pivot to free to play.

destructions-allstars-details-gameplay-allstars-modes-and-abilities.jpg


Clearly they learned nothing from this, and instead are hoping that a PC release on Day 1 will be enough to make their GAAS games a success. Not to mention the unique challenges that come with making PvP games that Sony seems to be favoring, which even Bungie is struggling with as the PvP portion of Destiny (Crucible) has low player count.

At least with PvE games like GTA Online, Destiny main game, you could still have a hint of storytelling that is not possible with generic deathmatch/extraction modes.

Insomniac, the shining party of Playstation first party this generation, will eventually be compromised with having to make a likely PC multiplayer game
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As long as they aren't filled with MTX there's nothing wrong with bringing games like that back
 
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Actually those games would have been fire in this time. MAG, Uncharted 2, Killzone, whole Home service. That was ahead of its time.
Killing Home was such a massive own goal. It didn't even lose money, it was just "embarrassing" due to all of the product placement games even though nobody actually ever made fun of them for it. Now something like Roblox is worth 20 billion dollars and I bet Sony wishes they had kept the service up.
 

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It's far worse, PS3 strategy didn't sacrifice anything.

Sony is in a different position now where they are one of the most productive and successful publishers for single player games.

Who is hyped for Fairgame$, Horizon GaaS, Concord, etc?
 
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Im down either way. As long as the 1st party teams and 3rd party partnerships are making lots of single player games.

I actually liked the PS3 multiplayer games and smaller titles
 

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Who is hyped for Fairgame$, Horizon GaaS, Concord, etc?
I need to see Concord before I write it off, could be anything or…. Space Pirates. In that case Im down lol. I love games like PSO, FF14, Destiny or something more chill for some variety
 

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It could be anything since all we saw was a jiggly space burger. But knowing it GaaS I already have negative hype.
Is FF14 classed as Gaas?
I know Destiny is and Ill try it if its any good. Need to see setting and gameplay.
 
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Everyone who says the PS3 attempts were good is missing the point. The games clearly weren't good enough to survive to this day. Sony's bread and butter from late PS3 to now has been character driven single player games. It seems this fanbase is hellbent in turning into Xbots turning games into engagement metrics instead of quality metrics.

Also just to be realistic, no first party PvP shooter will be able to steal users from Fortnite/COD/Apex. Sony is investing millions in projects that will be dead months after release. At least with PvE games you can do it solo without needing others to compete with.
 

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Is FF14 classed as Gaas?
I know Destiny is and Ill try it if its any good. Need to see setting and gameplay.
MMOs are a different breed of GaaS. I'm fine with GaaS that make sense for their genre the problem comes from Sony showing up with a bunch of Fortnite and Hyenas clones.
 
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MMOs are a different breed of GaaS. I'm fine with GaaS that make sense for their genre the problem comes from Sony showing up with a bunch of Fortnite and Hyenas clones.
Cool. So some Gaas games I can tolerate Or like Like certain MMOs.

Havens game look generic af. So does Horizon mp. Theres gonna be some duds just like single player games. But something like Factions 2 Marathon might be great Online games. Who thought Fortnite and Apex were gonna be as big as they are now.
No way ND is giving up its story telling in Factions 2 though.