Power Supply Complications for the Nvidia 40xx cards.

Dr Bass

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These video cards are getting wild. I wonder what the ceiling is going to be for size/power draw. Especially with Jensen saying "prices going down over time is a thing of the past" haha.
 
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I bought an ROG Thor 2 1000w last week as my last Corsair AX850 was dying after a decades worth of service.

I heard about ATX 3.0 and was fretting about missing out on it. But my PSU comes with a 12 pin cable which provides 450w. Given the 4080 uses 320w at it's peak, I'm not going to worry as there is plenty of headroom with the PSU, and I'm not going to be plugging and unplugging the adapter regularly at all.
 

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That is a by product of silicon shrink not moving forward anymore… the 4nm nVidia is using looks more like a 7nm enhanced than anything else.

That create a situation where companies needs to increase silicon size and push higher clock that end increasing the power consumption… all that to reach the desired performance point.

It is no different for the incoming AMD’s GPUs.
 
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These video cards are getting wild. I wonder what the ceiling is going to be for size/power draw. Especially with Jensen saying "prices going down over time is a thing of the past" haha.
While silicon industry is froze without a new alternative for lithography process (or even a new and better material) the processors size/power draw will continue to increase.

It is the option to get more performance.

And yes when you work in the limit of a tech you have to accept that tech will only get expensive… a small enhancement in actual lithography process costs a lot.
 

rofif

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how could they complicate it so badly...
3080fe was 700$, amazing 2,5kg metal build quality, smallish and included a reasonable, perfectly fine 12 pin adapter.
It is the best card I ever purchased and ever will probably.
Shame FE was impossible to get for most and the one I got 2 years ago was the last FE offering to Poland ever :( ... and it lasted 90 seconds. I was hunting whole week for this baby.... sure it's not the coolest and most silent model but it's "nice".

Sure it is a bit loud but I cherish that card. I have a deep connection with it. Because it looks so good, it was reasonably priced (700 is still too much for any gpu but oh well) and I was hunting for it. Same for my ps5.... I also had to hunt for it... what weird times.
This makes me never want to sell ps5 and that 3080 haha

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edit: 3070fe looks sick to. I am just done with chunky, aggressive, saggy gigabyte and msi boys.
 

rofif

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also, I think that PSU and old motherboard style pc building should just change.
m.2 slots are the biggest innovation in last 20 years. Yet we still see motherboard and cases with 6 sata ports and so on.
nobody wants that if you can have tb of m.2 nvme storage. I keep my backup files on usb3.0 hdd and connect it only when I need it. no reason to have a shitty hdd constantly buzzing inside the pc.
I am waiting for new way of building a pc.... maybe change motherboard into something else, cut a lot of old ancient features like sata. Move slots around or change them... make cases change. anything

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Oh wow I had no idea about 25-30 insert cycles for the 12 pin !!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS CRAZY !!!!
Is that also for 3080 fe included adapter?
Is it for socket in gpu itself or just the plugs?
Maybe I should get the corsair 12 pin cable... just in case
 
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  • VERTEX PX-1200: $ 259.99 / € 309.00
  • VERTEX PX-1000: $ 219.99 / € 259.00
  • VERTEX PX-850: $ 189.99 / € 229.00
  • VERTEX PX-750: $ 169.99 / € 199.00
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  • VERTEX GX-1200: $ 229.99 / € 269.00
  • VERTEX GX-1000: $ 199,99 / € 239,00
  • VERTEX GX-850: $ 169,99 / € 199.00
  • VERTEX GX-750: $ 149,99 / € 179.00

between the cards and the power supplies this new generation will be very expensive (n)
 
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also, I think that PSU and old motherboard style pc building should just change.
m.2 slots are the biggest innovation in last 20 years. Yet we still see motherboard and cases with 6 sata ports and so on.
nobody wants that if you can have tb of m.2 nvme storage. I keep my backup files on usb3.0 hdd and connect it only when I need it. no reason to have a shitty hdd constantly buzzing inside the pc.
Because there are so many things that still need older hardware. If they got rid of the SATA, how would I be able to extract my data from an old backup drive for example? Maintaining backward compatibility is a jewel that should never be compromised.