RUMOR: Bloodborne is coming to PC and #PS5, and is set to be revealed at the next #PlayStation Showcase

Yurinka

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I hope this is Bluepoint, if it's day 1 on PC I'll double dip to cancel out @nongkris
Me too, but when acquired their boss said they were aiming to work in original content instead going forward instead and that "the transition from remasters to remakes was to test ourselves and push ourselves harder for the next step" (next step being working on original games I assume), and also: "Our team is a very highly experienced team, the average experience among most people is about 15 years, and all of them come from original development. It's not like we're a bunch of developers that got trained up on making remasters and remakes. We have that original game development mindset in our hearts, and that's what we're now ready, finally ready with the support of Sony to push forward and show what we can do, and show what PlayStation can do,".

I bet that Bluepoint is working again as support team codeveloping another big ass new Sony game leaded by other North American Sony studio as they did with GoWR.

I assume that if someone ports/remaster Bloodborne to PS5 and PC with a few improvements will be FromSoft themselves or some of the teams who work with Sony to port stuff to PC like Nixxes, Iron Galaxy, etc. or some other support/outsourcing team pretty likely external.

I mean, Bloodborne doesn't need to be remade or remastered in a big way: only to make a native PS5 & PC version that would be like the PS4 one but with up to 4K resolution and steady 60fps with steady framepacing, shorter loading times etc.
 

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Nixxes would be the one to handle something like this (if not FromSoftware themselves). The required chances for a remaster wouldn't be that for off from what it takes to make a patch that many studios do for free.
Yeah, they did a great job with the Spider-Man games, I'm pretty sure they'd do a great job with Bloodborne too.
 
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So everyone thinks a remaster makes sense? Personally it sounds a bit lazy IMO. Why would the PS5 need a separate remaster for the game when they could just make a patch to boost the framerate to 60? They wouldn't even necessarily need to do anything in terms of resolution, but IIRC there are some PS4 games running in BC on PS5 with improved resolution alongside framerate.

Agreed with @ethomaz , a BC patch for PS5 and a standalone port to PC with new display & resolution options would be the best way to do this if it's just a remaster.

If it's as beautiful as Demon's Souls, I can't see the problem.

Demon's Souls was a remake, though, built from the ground-up to recreate the original PS3 game with whole new assets, textures, animations etc. Remasters generally just take the original game and improve the framerate and resolutions, and maybe improve some of the textures. But base assets etc. are the same as the original game.

If Sony is dumb enough to make a highly anticipated game like a Bloodborne remake and put it on PC day 1 I would sell my PS5 and pirate the shit out of it. Horrible business move.

I do think Sony need to be careful about how they handle the optics of these PC ports in terms of it possibly influencing core members of the fanbase to consider migration to such a platform for their gaming. We don't even know how financially successful these PC ports have been for them so far, and I guess we'll have to wait until the 24th to get some numbers on that.

However if say a Bloodborne port to PC is tying in to a Bloodborne sequel being announced for PS5, then I don't see any issue, provided when the sequel is set to come out. I personally feel it's in Sony's best interest to just set a cadence of "Port over the older game to PC within a year or so of a new installment coming to the console", and enhance the PC port with new features and maybe some additional content, while letting console owners upgrade to those new features (and if there, content) for a small fee through a patch.

While that sets a hardline cadence it's one where you're still guaranteed the game has a few years of console exclusivity, so they fully exhaust that pipeline (B2P sales, eventual PS+ inclusion a few years later) before then bringing the game to a platform that's outside of their ecosystem (and yes just like with Microsoft even if Sony want to try claiming PC is part of the PlayStation ecosystem, it's not in the way that matters for vertical integration, and it's even worst in Sony's case because at least Microsoft owns the OS that most PC gamers use).

People waiting on a PC port would have to a wait a good while, in the meantime there's an affordable console you can buy to play the game on. Some of these artificial arguments that 'shutting out' PC gamers from Day 1 access is anti-consumer or whatever but those arguments are highly selective and only applied to Sony. Nintendo's not bothered bringing a single game to PC and yet no one bats an eye (just like how apparently PlayStation "needs" Xbox to have competition and be honest yet no one claims Nintendo "needs" PSP or another portable/hybrid from Sony in order to have competition and be fair with customers 🤔).

It's not anti-consumer to leverage your 1P and even 3P games in a way to add value to your platform. Microsoft forfeited that by doing Day 1 on PC for all their games, and the end result is the stagnation you're seeing today with Xbox Series and almost sad measures like Phil Spencer's X-Cast interview where he seems to acknowledge Xbox the console doesn't have a core identity anymore. Well no shit it doesn't, you decided to bring all your games to PC Day 1 back in 2015!

But I digress...

FWIW I think many of Sony's live-service/GaaS titles would be exempt from this; there are obvious business and community parity reasons why some of those should be Day 1 on PC if not most of them. Factions will likely be the start. But Sony do need to address the elephant of how does that fairness play out for console owners if the game is non-F2P yet they have to pay for online, while PC gamers don't. Also ensure there are separate leaderboards for console & PC, no forced cross-play (you can opt-in or opt-out) alongside a combined leaderboard, and probably enable KB&M options for console players when it's a FPS, just for those who want that option.

Yes I know they could make good money porting non-live service/GaaS titles to PC in a 6 month-1 year timescale or even Day 1 but I think there is a serious optics issue tied to that and I don't want PlayStation to go through a similar problem Xbox has suffered in that regard, because in Xbox's case I feel it took a few years before the problem started to settle in, and a few more before it began to rot at the console side of things. We can debate about the overall quality of their 1P over the past several years being the real factor or not; personally I think that only exacerbated the eventual problem, but the decline to optics on the console side was going to happen regardless when they did Day 1 on PC for all of their games. It really ended up hurting a lot of the value proposition of the console for some of the more hardcore customers (who also happen to spend the most money).
 
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Bloodborne has to be remastered. Demons souls should have been remastered too. Remakes screw up the artstyle like TLOU part 1 or shadow of the colossus.

Demons souls can easily run at 4k 60 on PC and still looks great. Not sure whats with this trend of remaking 7th gen games (yeah, money I know) do young gamers believe that 7th gen games look obsolete tech wise?
 
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  • He too has heard of Metal Gear Solid & Bloodborne in regards to the PlayStation Showcase
  • He mentions Bloodborne being in development, unsure when they'll announce it
  • He mentions he asked Bluepoint's president outright in his face if they're developing MGS, the president just laughed in his face

Honestly, i doubt Bloodborne is coming out before the PS6, but i would be very happy if so.
 

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PS5 great

PC Ewww , such a L if Sony start to pander to the PC beggars
They already started to do that 2 years ago. Great time just as we entered the era of terrible PC ports.

Extra large L because Sony doesn't protect their games and since they are mostly single player pirate can play it day one and have the exact same experience as someone who paid full price.

Bloodborne has to be remastered. Demons souls should have been remastered too. Remakes screw up the artstyle like TLOU part 1 or shadow of the colossus.

Demons souls can easily run at 4k 60 on PC and still looks great. Not sure whats with this trend of remaking 7th gen games (yeah, money I know) do young gamers believe that 7th gen games look obsolete tech wise?
I like the Demon's Souls remake but if you think that we could've got a remake of some other older game that really needed it then it does not seem like such good deal.

Bluepoint remakes are pretty good tho, the whole complaining about art style changes seem like nitpicking on a good product. Some thing will inevitable look different, if that bothers you than a remake was never for you to begging with.
 
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Why would he know anything? Why would Sony communicate with a guy modding the PS4?

The more we talk about it the greater are the chances of it becoming true anyway. Let's keep at it.
Sony wouldn't directly be speaking to him, they wouldn't have to for him to get info. Not saying either of them are true, but he's debunked a lot of these rumors and we haven't seen more Bloodborne yet.
 

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Sony wouldn't directly be speaking to him, they wouldn't have to for him to get info. Not saying either of them are true, but he's debunked a lot of these rumors and we haven't seen more Bloodborne yet.
We'll if he is just saying that every rumor is false he would always be correct until he isn't.
 

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Why is that guy talking like he is the guardian of all things Bloodborne? David Jaffe created god of war ffs... what's next a super Mario world ROM hacker trying to debunk Miyamoto?
 
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Bloodborne 2 Yes. A remaster/remake meh... depends on the level of uplift say, Demon Souls PS3 -> PS5 type of jump or RE4 PS3 to RE4 PS5. TLOU PS3/TLOU:R - TLOU PS5 wasn't it.

New IP's is what's sorely needed. Big ambitious new IPs.