Sony will earn more from Call of Duty this year, with a higher % cut per sale.

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If i did my math correct, So if COD sells 10 million at full price for 70 dollars on PS5 before sony wouldve made 140 million and at 30 percent theyd make 210 million. So almost half the budget of Concord!
 
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Maybe we are reading different things...

Where is the 20% info? The FTC doc doesn't say it.
It doesn't say the actual number only that it was less than the standard 30% but it's known thanks to the FTC case that Xbox were taking 20% .... Pretty obvious they both were taking the same percentage
 

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It doesn't say the actual number only that it was less than the standard 30% but it's known thanks to the FTC case that Xbox were taking 20% .... Pretty obvious they both were taking the same percentage
That is where we disagree.

Because in exclusive deals Xbox needs to pay way more than Sony due the size of userbase.
Why do you believe it is not the same here?

At the negotiation... user base matters and Activation could ask way more from Xbox than Sony.
So it is not that obvious.

More like Xbox was forced to accept whatever deal Activision wanted.
Sony was not in the same position.
 
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That is where we disagree.

Because in exclusive deals Xbox needs to pay way more than Sony due the size of userbase.
Why do you believe it is not the same here?

At the negotiation... user base matters and Activation could ask way more from Xbox than Sony.
So it is not that obvious.

More like Xbox was forced to accept whatever deal Activision wanted.
Sony was not in the same position.
Okay so by that logic they wouldn't have accepted taking less than 30% would they but they did
 

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Okay so by that logic they wouldn't have accepted taking less than 30% would they but they did
By the logic Activision have less power to negotiate a deal with PlayStation than Xbox.
And so it affect where you reach in the cut.

Not having any change in the cut was indeed an option but they reached a deal for a lower cut.

Do you understand how you negotiate a deal? It is not like Activision reached Sony and said "we want 20% instead 30% cut" and Sony just "ok".

The fact that nobody disclosed the Sony / Activision deal means that Microsoft didn't want it to be disclosed because it should not push the narrative they wanted to create in people heads.
MS disclosed their part with 20% to people thing that Sony have the same deal and what they offered to Sony (30%) was a big win lol
I mean 30% is the standard to Sony and not a win.

I really doubt that with the different size of userbase Xbox and PlayStation reached the same deal with Activision.
It doesn't make any sense.
Activation needed PlayStation way more than Xbox.
 
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So seems that with the acquisition:
  • PS continues getting CoD
  • PS no longer pays CoD marketing
  • PS gets a higher revenue share from CoD
  • PS gets even the Xbox Studios games on PS
  • PS pretty likely will get in cloud gaming the ABK games like CoD via Ubisoft
Ah you guys complained about Jimbo, the acquisition seems more benefitial to PS than to Xbox xDDD

Great post, but notice that is all PlayStation winning, sprinkled in with Xbox losing. As always.

But what is missing is gamers winning.
 
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If i did my math correct, So if COD sells 10 million at full price for 70 dollars on PS5 before sony wouldve made 140 million and at 30 percent theyd make 210 million. So almost half the budget of Concord!
Yeah 1/3rd increase in revenue from COD……. Sony cant complain.
 

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'back home' it's always been multiplatform & still is ...🤣

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Great!!!! More money to finance the Concord - Free to Play (ReUp) 😼
 

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And if Sony was honest during the trials, and they relied on COD to make first party games, this would be good new for first party studios at Sony.
Didn't you say the goal of the acquisition for ms was to make games third party?
 

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Um, no? I don't even know who you are lol.
that's weird let me refresh your memory, Yesterday you told us Nintendo was beating playstation incredibly hard.

And when I asked you which games you played this year, it turned you played more than 20 games. But no Nintendo games...

But I guess it was poster quite similar to you then, maybe @peter42O . Who made the point that the goal was to go third party.
 

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that's weird let me refresh your memory, Yesterday you told us Nintendo was beating playstation incredibly hard.

I mentioned that Nintendo was beating Xbox and PlayStation in console sales. Not sure what your concern is?

And when I asked you which games you played this year, it turned you played more than 20 games. But no Nintendo games...

Correct.

But I guess it was poster quite similar to you then, maybe @peter42O . Who made the point that the goal was to go third party.

No idea who Peter420 is, but ok.
 

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I mentioned that Nintendo was beating Xbox and PlayStation in console sales. Not sure what your concern is?
Ah Nintendo is beating ps5 by losing each month circana. But you didn't say that yesterday you said following, without mentioning sales.
Nintendo is so far ahead of PS and Xbox, they can hit pause and still dominate. I am curious as to what the next gen Nintendo will bring that is innovative.

if you don't remember people that you have conversations with the day after nor well known poster like @peter420
Than I guess this post about you holds true.
Kvally has multiple personalities depending on which message board he posts. I think he gets confused which console he's supposed to stan for on Icon.

But lets conclude this in a friendly matter, you didn't state that the goal of the ABK deal was to go third party.
 

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Great post, but notice that is all PlayStation winning, sprinkled in with Xbox losing. As always.

But what is missing is gamers winning.
Playstation gamers continue to win.

What's going to be funny is more people will still be playing on Playstation.
 
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