Lol, stutter their way to the endNow we find out about the SSD claims and how much of it was bullshit. Master waiters are going to pirate this day one and stutter their way to the end using HDDs.
The entire PlayStation strategy for this gen stinks and it's pretty much the hardware team and a few devs doing all the work to make the console successful.
Console gaming is down just because ratchet and clank is ported to PC? I think you folks are being overly dramatic.
Console gaming is just here to stay thanks to mass appeal. I just started that in my opinion PC gaming is better for enthusiasts. And I think we are all enthusiasts in this place right? Why wouldn't you want to see games shine to the fullest of their capabilities?
None of these games are on PC and they are not porting pS3 games so that point is irrelevant. They are porting PS5 games, recent and easy to find everywhere. Game preservation my ass.Even console gamers end up benefiting. Look at how many games were going to be left in the dust once Sony shut down the PS3 store, or Nintendo with their legacy consoles?
Sony wants to be Xbox and Xbox would give everything to be Sony. These CEOs are on crack.ol PS becoming the timed exclusive box now
Well yeah it just depends on how long you're prepared to wait. As a 4090 owner I wonder if the release gap reduced to a year it devalues ownership of the PS5 quite a bit as I always have a backlog.And single player games. There's a lot going for PC at the moment, more than there has been for a few years.
PC is overpriced, so this whole argument is moot.Ok here I go.
Consoles are a hindrance if you are an enthusiast gamer. Imagine owning a low quality hi Fi to listen to the Beatles, one that plays exclusively led zeppelin and pink Floyd and another that just plays Miles Davis records.
It's just that we are all used to that anachronistic business model since the 80s. Back then it made sense, the industry was young, some standards needed to be set and home computers were ridiculously expensive, hard to use and terrible for gaming.
Not saying consoles should not exist, they absolutely have a place, but PC is a different animal. Have your wars between consoles but down the line port all games to PC. At least that way, game preservation is secured and console manufacturers get some additional revenue. Because sure as hell those games will end up being emulated or even source ported on PC.
Even console gamers end up benefiting. Look at how many games were going to be left in the dust once Sony shut down the PS3 store, or Nintendo with their legacy consoles? That won't happen on PC. Games lost in older consoles like MGS4 could be playable on integrated graphics today if they were ported to PC back in the day. Everyone has a PC at home, I bet office PCs today can play crysis.
At least some consoles tried to do innovative stuff like the 3DS or the Wii. But these propietary PCs? Nothing to bring to the table except a relative ease of use for casual gamers, some exclusive here and there and a misleading lower cost of entry.
Some folks are overly dramatic over this, yes. It’s why I don’t engage with these threads anymore. Nobody is leaving PlayStation because games are going to pc after years of release.Console gaming is down just because ratchet and clank is ported to PC? I think you folks are being overly dramatic.
Console gaming is just here to stay thanks to mass appeal. I just started that in my opinion PC gaming is better for enthusiasts. And I think we are all enthusiasts in this place right? Why wouldn't you want to see games shine to the fullest of their capabilities?
No it's not. These CDPR games have a long history on PC that Sony doesn't have and are the exception. PC is big in every country where piracy is big and Steam is pretty much designed to fight piracy.I agree. They could add denuvo as long as they remove it in a year at most. But then again, games like Witcher 3 and cyberpunk sold the most on PC while being DRM free.
Piracy on PC is very overstated.
Math doesn't add up, in console where Sony keeps 100% of the money they charge $70 on PC where they keep only 70% they charge $60... PlayStation players are treated like suckers.
JayBari is not happy either.
100% with him.
60 dollars on PC with more features.... and we were supposed to get more single player games funded yet 3 years after the ports start and looks like we get less now.
This is what I mean when I say Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst's vision for Playstation is catastrophic. They're trying to turn into a third party publisher, meanwhile Nintendo is breaking every record in movies and games by keeping their stuff exclusivePS5 Showpiece Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Jumps to the PC Dimension in July
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Nintendo doesn't even have the option to not have their games playable on PC and their games get massively pirated by master waiters even before release and run even better on PC than on the Switch. Their numbers would be even better if that wasn't the case (both software and hardware). Nintendo also surfers from piracy on their device way more than PlayStation.This is what I mean when I say Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst's vision for Playstation is catastrophic. They're trying to turn into a third party publisher, meanwhile Nintendo is breaking every record in movies and games by keeping their stuff exclusive
True, Nintendo has been hacked since wii u thanks to emulators. I think their lawyers have done a good enough job at keeping them from going mainstream enough to affect their console sales though.Nintendo doesn't even have the option to not launch on PC and their games get massively pirate by master waiters even before release and run better on PC than on the Switch. If it was up to them they would shut it all down, while Sony goes out of their way to simp for that audience (that mostly hates them).
It's very mainstream, since the emulators aren't illegal they get promoted everywhere (reddit, youtube, even Xbox). The games are what is harder to find but nothing that would be a challenge for a PC gamer. No need to say it, but people aren't ripping their own ROMs from cartiges they bougth.True, Nintendo has been hacked since wii u thanks to emulators. I think their lawyers have done a good enough job at keeping them from going mainstream enough to affect their console sales though.
Nintendo is already the smartest publisher because they're the only one left that hasn't ported their games to PC, don't drop prices often or at all, and had a mobile strategy at some point. Glad I've been getting more into my switch lately after seeing how Jim is running things
I wouldn't call it mainstream to where the casual game player knows how to do it. It's still an enthusiast thing.It's very mainstream, since the emulators aren't illegal they get promoted everywhere (reddit, youtube, even Xbox). The games are what is harder to find but nothing that would be a challenge for a PC gamer. No need to say it, but people aren't ripping their own ROMs from cartiges they bougth.
Every PC players knows it. I'm yet to meet a single PC player that doesn't list emulators as on of PC's advantages. The casual PC player is probably more likely to emulate than the guy buying AAA games on Steam.I wouldn't call it mainstream to where the casual game player knows how to do it. It's still an enthusiast thing.
I'm in the same boat. I have zero faith in the PlayStation future.But anyways it seems like this PS5 generation will be the remaster/PC port/ and GAAS gen. Safe to say I'll probably be bowing out once Final Fantasy comes. Spiderman 2 isn't even interesting me anymore.
Factions was actually my last hope and one of the games I was looking to since buying my PS5, with that effectively being killed along with the showcase I gave up on any hope on Sony as a publisher.Every PC players knows it. I'm yet to meet a single PC player that doesn't list emulators as on of PC's advantages. The casual PC player is probably more likely to emulate than the guy buying AAA games on Steam.
I'm in the same boat. I have zero faith in the PlayStation future.