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Better idea: announce the acquisition of Square Enix without giving anything to Xbox.
Sony's future and possible studio/publisher acquisitions
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Nothing they buy from now on should ever appear on Xbox.
I was much more bullish on Square Enix when they had western studios that just seemed a bit mismanaged and could easily turn into diamonds under PlayStation Studios
Now they are a white elephant putting out one mainline FF, DQ and KH per gen. None of which would be hitting more than around 10 million as exclusives
And all the dumb NFT crap is nothing less than a company that obviously doesn't know what it is doing
Close to 6 billion for 3 franchises. Its an investment I can't ever see paying itself back
Now they are a white elephant putting out one mainline FF, DQ and KH per gen. None of which would be hitting more than around 10 million as exclusives
And all the dumb NFT crap is nothing less than a company that obviously doesn't know what it is doing
Close to 6 billion for 3 franchises. Its an investment I can't ever see paying itself back
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Can Vr be left out of the discussion around acquisitions?
10 years ago, a guy with a really stupid name taped a mobile phone to his face. 10 years later and we have 4k@60fps with HDR and a new technology, foveated rendering.
Where will VR be in 10 years? There's every chance that a headset breaks into the mainstream. Maybe it will be VR2 or VR3, maybe it will be a Nintendo offering, but 10 years is a gosh darn long time in technology.
Are we so sure that flat-screen gaming will be as popular as it is today? If it isn't as popular, then Sony have a head start in the VR race and who knows, maybe Killzone VR or Battlefield VR will be bigger than COD. Or heck, what is COD VR becomes more popular than the flat screen version?
Sony will be fine.
10 years ago, a guy with a really stupid name taped a mobile phone to his face. 10 years later and we have 4k@60fps with HDR and a new technology, foveated rendering.
Where will VR be in 10 years? There's every chance that a headset breaks into the mainstream. Maybe it will be VR2 or VR3, maybe it will be a Nintendo offering, but 10 years is a gosh darn long time in technology.
Are we so sure that flat-screen gaming will be as popular as it is today? If it isn't as popular, then Sony have a head start in the VR race and who knows, maybe Killzone VR or Battlefield VR will be bigger than COD. Or heck, what is COD VR becomes more popular than the flat screen version?
Sony will be fine.
Sony should be taking $2 billion to Kadokawas doorstep to make them an offer they can't refuse for From Software
Then get them to work on Bloodborne 2 and Olden Ring
Then get them to work on Bloodborne 2 and Olden Ring
I disagree, in terms of big name pubs Capcom seem to have more to offer, outside of mobile money from SE's mobile games
I do think Sony should sue for peace now that the is senator is involved. Make it more on their terms though like we want 12 years instead of 10 and call your senator off and we’ll sign the deal. Then announce squares acquisition like the same day or shortly after to save face.
Oh I agree. As a customer, Square does nothing to me. They sold off most of their IPs and are left with a few I don't care for much, as much as I hate to admit it when it comes to FF these days.
But they make the most sense. They're cheaper than most and come with FF XIV, the biggest MMO on the market now. It fits with Sony's GaaS push. Not to mention they have a good relationship with them.
I wouldn't mind SE before they sold off most of their IPs. Imagine a Sony produced Tomb Raider. They had some excellent IPs.
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Didn't that tit say he wanted MTX in all 2K games going forward? His thinking is how we get crap design descisions like WWE 2K Towers and Mortal Kombat Krypt grinding. They think that's how to increase/maintain player engagement over time. The Idiots.
Although, yeah, I agree totally Sony should throw in with SSD and have a Sony Sports Network or PS Sports branding etc. Align those with EVO/PS Tournaments stuff. It's not my wheelhouse, but I'd have to imagine there's "EVO for sports games", right? I'd go one step further... As well as the WWE games as part of 2K/T2, I'd put some money into Yukes and that AEW game.
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Its really not up to Jim Ryan. He hasn't got a blank cheque like Phil Spencer
Any potential acquisition needs to be approved by Japan
The better hypothetical situation would be if Kaz was still CEO, I am sure Kaz would be more than willing to acquire a big fish
Any potential acquisition needs to be approved by Japan
The better hypothetical situation would be if Kaz was still CEO, I am sure Kaz would be more than willing to acquire a big fish
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I really hope Sony does acquire Square Enix and making all of their games exclusive to PlayStation doesn't make any sort of a difference compared to what it is now. Square Enix keeps the main events exclusive to PlayStation while giving the under card to Xbox.
For me, once Square Enix sold off Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal, they're of no interest to me but I do want Sony to acquire them for one simple reason - to no longer read/hear/see "will Square Enix bring (insert game title here) to Xbox" ever again.
For me, once Square Enix sold off Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montreal, they're of no interest to me but I do want Sony to acquire them for one simple reason - to no longer read/hear/see "will Square Enix bring (insert game title here) to Xbox" ever again.
Some of the IPs that will now be under MS control:
From Activision - Call of Duty/Warzone, Crash, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater, Spyro
From Blizzard: Diablo, Warcraft/World of War/Harthstone, StarCraft, Overwatch
From Bethesda - The Elders Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Quake
From Xbox - Halo, Gears, Forza, Age of Empires, Flight Simulator
*All but CoD removed from PlayStation on future entries and CoD removed or made a lesser product on PlayStation soon enougth.
** Some of those are PC centric but MS will no doubt get them on their console soon, not to mention that Sony now also competes on the PC space.
How is Sony going to compete against all that? Horizon, God of War, Gran Turismo, Death Stranding and The Last of Us are not going to cut it long term regardless of their quality. They can't count on MS screwing everything they need to at least get close to the same amount of studios and get their hands on some big IPs.
Sony needs something like EA or Take Two or a combination of smaller publishers like CDPR/Capcom/SquareEnix. They should also consider negotiating with other publishers for key individual studios or IPs to secure/develop them on PlayStation like Battlefield, FromSoftware, MGS.
The PS5 gen is in the bag but Sony needs to start showing their hand fast because right now the long term isn't good at all.
From Activision - Call of Duty/Warzone, Crash, Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater, Spyro
From Blizzard: Diablo, Warcraft/World of War/Harthstone, StarCraft, Overwatch
From Bethesda - The Elders Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Quake
From Xbox - Halo, Gears, Forza, Age of Empires, Flight Simulator
*All but CoD removed from PlayStation on future entries and CoD removed or made a lesser product on PlayStation soon enougth.
** Some of those are PC centric but MS will no doubt get them on their console soon, not to mention that Sony now also competes on the PC space.
How is Sony going to compete against all that? Horizon, God of War, Gran Turismo, Death Stranding and The Last of Us are not going to cut it long term regardless of their quality. They can't count on MS screwing everything they need to at least get close to the same amount of studios and get their hands on some big IPs.
Sony needs something like EA or Take Two or a combination of smaller publishers like CDPR/Capcom/SquareEnix. They should also consider negotiating with other publishers for key individual studios or IPs to secure/develop them on PlayStation like Battlefield, FromSoftware, MGS.
The PS5 gen is in the bag but Sony needs to start showing their hand fast because right now the long term isn't good at all.
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While I agree with your second point, you are adding in some basically dead franchises to your first point and leaving out a lot of what Sony has already. Crash, Spyro, Warcraft, Starcraft, Quake are not really that relevant are they?
On Sony side you are ignoring Spiderman, Destiny, Uncharted, MLB, Ghost of Tsushima.
On Sony side you are ignoring Spiderman, Destiny, Uncharted, MLB, Ghost of Tsushima.
Spider-man and MLB are licenced IPs. MLB and Destiny are multi-plataform games.
I obviously only mentioned some key IPs for every GoT or Days Gone MS also has something like Fable/Starfield/Dishonored that also didn't mention.
The point is that MS is permanently taking away some big games from PlayStation from now on while making them Xbox exclusives. You don't counter that by simply organically growing your studios. Right now Sony can't even develop new entries for IPs like Uncharted and are milking some IPs like Horizon way too much.
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COD isn't exclusive yet at least, so it's in the same boat as Destiny.
But on the whole I agree. Which is why I think Sony needs to buy Take 2 and a range of devs like From Software
Square, even Capcom aren't going to cut it in this arms race
A lot of if’s and ands but yes if they could some how pull that off I agree.