State of Play | February 23, 2023

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Yep. No way around this. That show for me was a D. I don't have PSVR2 yet, though that will change later on. Capcom stuff was great as well. Don't care for Suicide Squad and the indies I just didn't care for. Sony you are holding back because of the ABK and I am tired of it. I want this deal to be over with so we can get back to the good stuff.
 
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Yep. No way around this. That show for me was a D. I don't have PSVR2 yet, though that will change later on. Capcom stuff was great as well. Don't care for Suicide Squad and the indies I just didn't care for. Sony you are holding back because of the ABK and I am tired of it. I want this deal to be over with so we can get back to the good stuff.

Same... I did like RE4, SF6, Baldurs Gate 3 and Destiny Lightfall..... they all looked great. The PSPlus lineup is very decent too.

But most of those things were brief and they spent a lot of time on stuff that killed the pace and that wasn't really relevant to an audience that watches this type of show.

I think they really need to reflect on who they are marketing to in these SOP's and what is going to kill hype and slow things down and just cut all of that out and put it in a PSBlog post.
 

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Same... I did like RE4, SF6, Baldurs Gate 3 and Destiny Lightfall..... they all looked great. The PSPlus lineup is very decent too.

But most of those things were brief and they spent a lot of time on stuff that killed the pace and that wasn't really relevant to an audience that watches this type of show.

I think they really need to reflect on who they are marketing to in these SOP's and what is going to kill hype and slow things down and just cut all of that out and put it in a PSBlog post.
The folks in charge during the PS4 era did a much better job at building hype. PS still has bangers on the way, but they are doing an awful job at promoting them.
 

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The folks in charge during the PS4 era did a much better job at building hype. PS still has bangers on the way, but they are doing an awful job at promoting them.

Exactly, PS4 era was a hype machine. Every E3 up until 2017 was incredible and 2015 and 2016 were just other-worldly.

2016 being my all time favorite.

I don't particularly like these SOP's, they seem really impersonal and the games and pace just never suit the audience. I mean.... a handful are always great but they have so much filler and irrelevant stuff around them, that it hurts the great games being shown.

Much like with the PC port initiative.... they thought that was an audience for PS games.... now the sales are low on every release. It really seems to me that PS / Sony have a problem identifying who really are their audience, connecting with them and understanding them.... especially with all the noise on social media...people pretending to be PS fans pushing them to do things that actually hurt the brand.

It's kinda frustrating to see as a fan and customer.
 

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Exactly, PS4 era was a hype machine. Every E3 up until 2017 was incredible and 2015 and 2016 were just other-worldly.

2016 being my all time favorite.

I don't particularly like these SOP's, they seem really impersonal and the games and pace just never suit the audience. I mean.... a handful are always great but they have so much filler and irrelevant stuff around them, that it hurts the great games being shown.

Much like with the PC port initiative.... they thought that was an audience for PS games.... now the sales are low on every release. It really seems to me that PS / Sony have a problem identifying who really are their audience, connecting with them and understanding them.... especially with all the noise on social media...people pretending to be PS fans pushing them to do things that actually hurt the brand.

It's kinda frustrating to see as a fan and customer.
I wonder who is actually in charge of promoting and organizing these streams. They either need to be replaced or have a lot to learn from the showrunners of last gen.

I haven't watched many Nintendo Directs. Do their streams have this problem?
 
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Waste of time. I actually feel bad for RE4 and Street Fighter 6 to be lumped in with all of the other terrible shit in this show.
 
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Is the first show we walk away from without even one new announcement worth a shit?

I can't remember the name of a single new game shown.

it was a colossal waste of time.

F-, 0/10.
 
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Is the first show we walk away from without even one new announcement worth a shit?

I can't remember the name of a single new game shown.

it was a colossal waste of time.

F-, 0/10.
Just the VR games which looked awful. And humanity, which also looked meh.
 

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I wonder who is actually in charge of promoting and organizing these streams. They either need to be replaced or have a lot to learn from the showrunners of last gen.

I haven't watched many Nintendo Directs. Do their streams have this problem?

I haven't watched a Nintendo direct in a long time, last time I meant to watch but it was at an odd time...

So honestly I have no idea of the quality bar but from the talk surrounding them the last one or two seemed to go down well with their fans.
 
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Where it’s at.
I haven't watched a Nintendo direct in a long time, last time I meant to watch but it was at an odd time...

So honestly I have no idea of the quality bar but from the talk surrounding them the last one or two seemed to go down well with their fans.
Nintendo fans are hardly the most discriminating gamers.

The last direct was nothing but rehashed IPs, and Nintenyearolds were acting like it was Sony’s E32016
 

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Nintendo fans are hardly the most discriminating gamers.

The last direct was nothing but rehashed IPs, and Nintenyearolds were acting like it was Sony’s E32016

There's definitely some truth to that, they went wild for Funky Kong and putting Metroid Prime back on the store and they buy these low grade remakes without question.
 

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And at premium prices, no less!

That's what makes me question whether I was unfair on PlayStation with my criticism of their increase in pricing....

But my criticism was coming from a good place, I wanted more people to get in on day 1.

But in terms of inflation, cost, quality etc.... I absolutely understand where they are coming from.

Nintendo have no excuse for charging those type of prices though.
 
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That's what makes me question whether I was unfair on PlayStation with my criticism of their increase in pricing....

But my criticism was coming from a good place, I wanted more people to get in on day 1.

But in terms of inflation, cost, quality etc.... I absolutely understand where they are coming from.

Nintendo have no excuse for charging those type of prices though.
There’s a very good reason why the only game I’ve paid full pop for on Switch is RingFit Adventure.

The most expensive things next to that were $20 bargain bin carts.

I’m not paying PS5-level prices for PS3-level games.
 

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Just watched the SoP. Not into VR so no opinion on it other than "fine". I liked the Thiao game, or whatever it was called. Looks like a quick, fun romp and I love the south Pacific as a setting. Baldur's Gate is a PC game first and foremost so no real opinion on it (I tried Divinity 2 on Switch and hard bounced off the consolized inventory screens.) Glad the fans are finally getting a BG3 though, even if Divinity was basically a continuation of those games in all but name anyway. RE 4 looks good but its not platform exclusive so zero points there and I wouldn't be giving any for SSktJ even if was because it looks like another Redfall "we're totally open to single player (even though we really aren't") deal.

I'm using this.
That insult has existed for literal decades at this point.

edit: Actually, going through in my head again, the game about the dog leading people around looked nice. Worth a pick-up if it comes free to PSN or gets real cheap (or if it comes out and gets really good reviews, etc.)
 
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