Y’all are too hyperbolic ffs56%
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Sony damaging the whole Playstation brand with porting TLou1 to PC
Funny that y’all pc gamers keep crying and port begging all the time tho
The Sony slide says they sold 4.2m from August 2020 to half 2022.
That's complete BS. Face it.. you guys have your feelings hurt that Sony's games aren't selling as you feel they should on PC.. so much so that you claim it completely devalues the brand and prestige of these titles and the studios they are from.. PC gamers aren't begging for these games period... look at the sales figures lmao.. it's 100% in your mind because you can't deal with losing your best exclusives in any other way. You can't fathom that Sony would just give your best games to another platform that doesn't hold the same adoration for them that you fanboys do. Yet that's what they did, and what they are doing, and will continue to do... all while they continue to break records on the console side... lol. All your crying is meaningless..
No, notice that the sales numbers of the Sony slide have have an asterisk which in the bottom left corner of the slide indicates that it means "as of March 2022".
I made the maths in the image I posted. Including all games, the ones that performed better and the ones that performed worse. And not only the ones in the last year, but including all the ones they published in Steam since 2015 and making the estimations of what they sold since 2015.
No, it's:
Even ignoring with your too low estimate for Spider-Man you're missing there the sales of Days Gone, GoW and Horizon during the whole recent fiscal year (where they got nice and frequent discounts), plus the complete sales of Uncharted, Helldivers, Guns Up, Everybody Goes to the Rapture and Predator: Hunting grounds.
Man you twist everything.No, notice that the sales numbers of the Sony slide have have an asterisk which in the bottom left corner of the slide indicates that it means "as of March 2022".
And it's a powerpoint talking about a fiscal year, so in all pages when they mention until "march 2022" they mean "until March 31, 2022".
I made the maths in the image I posted. Including all games, the ones that performed better and the ones that performed worse. And not only the ones in the last year, but including all the ones they published in Steam since 2015 and making the estimations of what they sold since 2015.
No, it's:
GoW official 971K from mid Jan to end of March 2022. (First 2 months and a half)
My GoW estimate is 2.9M from mid Jan 2022 to end of March 2023. (First 14 months and a half)
Even ignoring with your too low estimate for Spider-Man you're missing there the sales of Days Gone, GoW and Horizon during the whole recent fiscal year (where they got nice and frequent discounts), plus the complete sales of Uncharted, Helldivers, Guns Up, Everybody Goes to the Rapture and Predator: Hunting grounds.
As can be seen in my picture the 12M estimate is for ALL the Sony published games and since 2015.
Also, Spider-Man got around 60K reviews in 7 months and a half. 700K would mean only 11.6 sales/review. When the group of lowest average sales/review games, the indies and lowest priced games, have an average of 20 in the smallest part of the average range for the games released in 2020 and later.
Another way to see it, as of today they have these reviews:
-Horizon: 93K reviews
-Spider-Man: 60K reviews
Let's assume Horizon sold 0 copies from April 1 2022 to April 1 2023, which in reality obviously is not the case at all, and that it continues with 2.4M sold. That would mean 25 sales per review in the case of Horizon, when we know it should be higher because it must have sold since then. Now let's apply that same too unrealistic multiplier to Spider-Man: 60K reviews x 25 sales/review = around 1.5M
As you can see with the unrealistically low estimate gets way closer to my estimate than yours. If instead of using 25 sales/review we go to a more realistic estimate but still pretty conservative of 30 sales/review for the games released after 2020, and add the other Sony games you have my table:
In the Sony slide, if we divide the revenue of each game by the units it sold we see they got $25 of revenu/copy in Horizon, $26.6 in DG and $27 in GoW. An average of $26.2 of revenue per copy. Multiplied by 12M copies that would be $314.4M. A very rough estimate because the pricing and discounts vary per game and year.
Sony estimated that they were going to make $300M, so assuming they achieve something relatively close my rough estimate doesn't seem pretty crazy. It's pretty reasonable.
You guys spend the entirety of last gen begging for those games and even going on change.org to make petitions for themThat's complete BS. Face it.. you guys have your feelings hurt that Sony's games aren't selling as you feel they should on PC.. so much so that you claim it completely devalues the brand and prestige of these titles and the studios they are from.. PC gamers aren't begging for these games period... look at the sales figures lmao.. it's 100% in your mind because you can't deal with losing your best exclusives in any other way. You can't fathom that Sony would just give your best games to another platform that doesn't hold the same adoration for them that you fanboys do. Yet that's what they did, and what they are doing, and will continue to do... all while they continue to break records on the console side... lol. All your crying is meaningless..
Nobody is begging for shit we already know is coming.. Sony fans are literally begging Sony to stop, and that's the truth.
That's a long list of excuses. What is done is done, they are too far committed to it to change direction, we'll find out if ultimately it will have a positive influence on PS game output or not, my prediction is that it will negatively affect them and push Sony even more towards GaaS.Man you're making a lot of assumptions here..
No shit Sony's games are more suited to Sony's devices... That's not the same thing as saying "traditional single player games don't sell on PC"... Let's look at some of the reasons why Sony's games specifically might not be selling what you are expecting:
- First, let's get the obvious out of the way... these are old ports. Old games which have either been given away for free by Sony on console, or are on DEEP sale. These games have already sold millions upon millions of units, and some of them are old enough that if you had really wanted to play these games, you've had years to buy a PS console and play them.
- Then there's the price. PC players aren't going to spend full price on old ass games regardless of how amazing you think they are. Sony's doing that for an obvious reason.. They're getting all the people who are willing to spend that money and finding out how many people they can count on to buy their games at those prices.. it also gives them room to do bigger sales to garner interest while still making more money.
- Little to no marketing. Sony is very careful not to market the PC versions of these games too hard, as they don't want to make their core fans feel some type of way. These ports don't have the benefit of multi-million dollar marketing campaigns with huge hype cycles.
- Release timing for many of these games has been quite strange. They released a bunch of these games very close together, like Miles Morales, Sackboy, and Uncharted. Unfortunately landing close to some other big games, which means many people need to make a decision and buy one or the other, or neither. Right now the economy is fucked. People don't have the money they used to to spend on games... and not only that especially old games. If they need to make a choice between that old Sony game, or a brand new release they were waiting on.. they're probably going to choose the latter.
- Many of the games released with launch issues. Now Sony's teams have been excellent about post launch support and fixing the reported issues, but it doesn't change the fact that it promotes bad word of mouth and stifles sales.
- Lastly, many of the games they have released didn't sell gangbusters even on Sony's own hardware. Days Gone, Sackboy, Returnal... All Unreal Engine games that by comparison to some of the other games, were simply easier to port and make a quick buck off of. The massive heavy hitters like Spider-Man, God of War, and Horizon all sold so much that most of the people who love them have already played them on console.
So you have a ton of factors working against PC versions of these games being massive event type games doing big numbers. Sony understands this. It's a new market for them.. they understand they have to build up a community there. They also understand that PC gamers like online multiplayer games, and service games, and they will be coming hard with those types of games soon. When/if they can build up those communities, naturally more people will start to take notice of other games they release.. Like I said.. the way they are shoving these games out on PC, tells me they want to build up a library of games so that they can bring their Store to PC, and subscription services along with them.
And no, I like Sony games.. I'm just done with owning multiple consoles which just sit and collect dust 90% of the time. I prefer PC these days.
I don't twist anything. And please stop mading up stuff, with your nonsensical guestimates is enough: Sony said in the Q&A session after showing that document that Bungie wasn't included in the forecasts and amount of games under development mentioned on that document because back then the acquisition still wasn't completed.
If Bungie is not included then Sony will miss the target by near $200m… it will be a disaster.
In your dreams maybe.
You keep mading up stuff.
Nope. Y’all in every single forum and tweet port begging, we know it and you know it. Now swallow it and stop crying.
I said multiple times I don’t care Sony is porting games to pc. They should milk y’all that pay hundreds for PCs, you won’t find a single post from me being against it. I’m waiting for the receipts.That's complete BS. Face it.. you guys have your feelings hurt that Sony's games aren't selling as you feel they should on PC.. so much so that you claim it completely devalues the brand and prestige of these titles and the studios they are from.. PC gamers aren't begging for these games period... look at the sales figures lmao.. it's 100% in your mind because you can't deal with losing your best exclusives in any other way. You can't fathom that Sony would just give your best games to another platform that doesn't hold the same adoration for them that you fanboys do. Yet that's what they did, and what they are doing, and will continue to do... all while they continue to break records on the console side... lol. All your crying is meaningless..
Nobody is begging for shit we already know is coming.. Sony fans are literally begging Sony to stop, and that's the truth.
Yep. They should milk their games and port to pc in order to fund more world class games. Why would anyone be against this? It’s just fun seeing them now denying there ever was some sort of port begging when everyone knows the clown shown they always put over ports.
You're telling yourself what you want to hear... meanwhile threads are being made about how Sony should stop because these ports aren't selling and making them look bad!!
Whatever works to get me more games like Bloodborne, TLoU Pt2 or GoW 2018.
Ok? Why are you crying to me about it then? LMFAO..
Yup, it's more money to fund games and acquisitions, and more players able to enjoy the games.
People is buying them and are generating hundreds of millions of dollars in profits directly and is helping them reach more players (meaning future fans who will spend more and grow their overal market). These profits later go reinvested to fund new games (+ ports).
