Wave of Japanese tweeting about new bought Xbox. All biased Propaganda?

Bernd Lauert

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Seems like you fell for the propaganda, what's so good about the Series consoles? They couldn't even bother with making games for their "good product" and their flagship feature Gamepass has already been copied and surpassed with ease by their competitor.

Same old MS and you guys trying to gas light people into thinking there is some massive change in the console market.

Just the fact that we are having to go to the Japanese market to find something positive to spin in favor of Xbox says it all.
Xbox has the most powerful console and the best subscription service on the market. They also quadrupled (?) the amount of first party studios compared to last gen. "Same old MS" is massive cope.
 

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Something like only 12% of total software sales on Playstation were 1st party in 2021, so that's why I left them out. Of course they count, but they don't have much impact on the stats.
Yes 12% on both PS4 and PS5 which means
1. we have no idea weather or not the PS4 install base has mostly left except for the GTA/Fifa/COD crowd which mostly buys digital which is what you said earlier!
2. 2021 was mostly a weak year first party wise, Returnal and Ratchet in the first Quarter, a couple Director Cuts in the middle of the Fiscal year, and then Horizon/GT7 right at the end of the fiscal year when PS5 was having stock issues!

Anyway this is all meaningless because you are saying Horzion's opening sales being 49% digital and 51% Physical in UK is proof Sony's first party games are mostly physical when you don't want to bring up the fact that GT7's Opening Sales in the UK were 57% Digital and 43% Physical. Does that not mean Sony's first Party games lean more digital than physical? Also are you forgetting there was a Horizon Collector's Edition that shows up on physical charts which probably skews the opening sales just slightly more physical than digital? We don't know since February if Horizon's Digital sales in the UK have over taken the physical?

Lastly I still need a reason how UK's Sales are proof that Sony's First Party Sales are more physical than digital in Japan? Didn't you use to claim there was no way Demons Souls can sell 1 million until Bluepoint confirmed 1.4 million sales as of September 2021?

and hell let's say all of Sony's First party Games Sales in Japan are 62% physical and 38% digital. that means we are missing over a third of the data needed to know how much the game actually sold in Japan!
 
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Xbox has the most powerful console and the best subscription service on the market. They also quadrupled (?) the amount of first party studios compared to last gen. "Same old MS" is massive cope.
They have by far the least powerful console, the Series S while the Series X has hardly managed to beat the PS5 in any noticeable way 12TF or not.

Gamepass has already been outclassed in one month by the new PS+, embarrassing for MS that it took so little from Sony to neutralize something they worked on for year.

No games on launch, no games in 2022, no GoTY level games, underdelivering on all their promises, a bunch of delayed and mismanaged projects, terrible outlook for 2023, no VR support, no excitement, conman Phil Spencer doing his thing just like last gen.

Worst gen they've ever had, completely unable to compete, getting bailed out by the PS5 stock problems.
 

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They have by far the least powerful console, the Series S while the Series X has hardly managed to beat the PS5 in any noticeable way 12TF or not.

Gamepass has already been outclassed in one month by the new PS+, embarrassing for MS that it took so little from Sony to neutralize something they worked on for year.

No games on launch, no games in 2022, no GoTY level games, underdelivering on all their promises, terrible outlook for 2023. Worst gen they've ever had.
stuff like this reminds me of the early 2000s, So many Sega fans claiming Dreamcast will wreck PS2, then when the left the hardware business it turned to EA is gonna get wrecked by Sega when they become the biggest third party publisher of all time which might be more laughable.

I'm not Saying Xbox is gonna leave the hardware business but Sony is gonna have no problem wrecking them this gen when these ship shortages get cleared up!
 

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They have by far the least powerful console, the Series S while the Series X has hardly managed to beat the PS5 in any noticeable way 12TF or not.
Ah, the Series S cope.
Gamepass has already been outclassed in one month by the new PS+, embarrassing for MS that it took so little from Sony to neutralize something they worked on for year.
Nope, Gamepass is still a much better deal.
No games on launch, no games in 2022, no GoTY level games, underdelivering on all their promises, a bunch of delayed and mismanaged projects, terrible outlook for 2023, no VR support, no excitement, conman Phil Spencer doing his thing just like last gen.
The games are the only thing that are slightly underdelivering, although last year Xbox stomped on its competition, winning the highest Metacritic of the year average in the history of Metacritic. Btw, several Xbox games won many GOTY awards last year.
Worst gen they've ever had, completely unable to compete, getting bailed out by the PS5 stock problems.
Just more cope. Get back to reality soon.
 
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Ah, the Series S cope.

Nope, Gamepass is still a much better deal.

The games are the only thing that are slightly underdelivering, although last year Xbox stomped on its competition, winning the highest Metacritic of the year average in the history of Metacritic. Btw, several Xbox games won many GOTY awards last year.

Just more cope. Get back to reality soon.
How does Deathloop play on your Xbox btw!
 

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The games are the only thing that are slightly underdelivering, although last year Xbox stomped on its competition, winning the highest Metacritic of the year average in the history of Metacritic. Btw, several Xbox games won many GOTY awards last year.
The PoTY cope, PATHETIC. A bunch of Xbox games on PlayStation won some GoTYs that's you gotcha? Lmao, They weren't even that good, nothing on the level of truly outstanding games that define a generation and that will be remember years from now.

Xbox is the budget option for people that don't care about quality, the off brand version of PlayStation. Being a fan of Xbox isn't something a healthy person would ever be and that's how we end up with users like you whit the whole "cope this", "cope that", seems like you are the one doing all the cope because when it comes to good games, the only thing that matter, Xbox as always, ain't got nothing.

My only advice to someone like you that became a fan of Phil Spencer and still believe in the guy after being scammed for 15 years, is to throw your Xbox in the trash and to try to forget what you've been trough.
 
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Seems a lot of folks have not been around a modern, large marketing department.
 

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They weren't even that good, nothing on the level of truly outstanding games that define a generation and that will be remember years from now.
Truly outstanding games like what, exactly? Psychonauts shat all over Ratchet, for example. Easily one of the best jump and runs in a decade.
Xbox is the budget option for people that don't care about quality, the off brand version of PlayStation. Being a fan of Xbox isn't something a healthy person would ever be and that's how we end up with users like you whit the whole "cope this", "cope that", seems like you are the one doing all the cope because when it comes to good games, the only thing that matter, Xbox as always, ain't got nothing.
Xbox is the premium experience if you're actually into gaming. If you want to stare at high production value set pieces while going through the motions of boring cookie cutter gameplay, buy a Playstation.
My only advice to someone like you that became a fan of Phil Spencer and still believe in the guy after being scammed for 15 years, is to throw your Xbox in the trash and to try to forget what you've been trough.
I only became a fan of Xbox in late 2020. It's the best deal in gaming so I'm keeping it, thx for your advice.
 

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Truly outstanding games like what, exactly? Psychonauts shat all over Ratchet, for example. Easily one of the best jump and runs in a decade.

Xbox is the premium experience if you're actually into gaming. If you want to stare at high production value set pieces while going through the motions of boring cookie cutter gameplay, buy a Playstation.

I only became a fan of Xbox in late 2020. It's the best deal in gaming so I'm keeping it, thx for your advice.
How much crack do you smoke?
 
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Xbox has the most powerful console and the best subscription service on the market. They also quadrupled (?) the amount of first party studios compared to last gen. "Same old MS" is massive cope.

Not gonna say you're wrong if this is your own opinion, and there are things WRT Series S and X I like (including potential of some future 1P releases), but both of these are some highly contentious opinions to say the least.
 

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Not gonna say you're wrong if this is your own opinion, and there are things WRT Series S and X I like (including potential of some future 1P releases), but both of these are some highly contentious opinions to say the least.
The first one is objectively true, the second one is an opinion, depending in your taste of games of course.
 
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The first one is objectively true, the second one is an opinion, depending in your taste of games of course.

No it's not. Series X might have a CU, texture fillrate, raw peak RAM bandwidth, (possibly) more robust ML (tho for most gaming tasks you don't need any precision lower than FP16; if INT8 & INT4 precision is exclusive to Series it's mainly due to its dual use in Azure clusters where raw data compute with ML is required), and (very slight) CPU speed advantage, and a potential advantage with Mesh Shaders (due to higher CU count), but PS5 has a lot of its own advantages over Series X.

Much higher GPU clockrate, faster GPU caches, cache scrubbers (these help with selectively adjusting parts of the cache data without needing to flush the entire line out to perform a write (and needing to re-write the cache line, eating up processing cycles). Dunno if PS5 uses patrol-based or demand-based scrubbing though), cache coherency engines (Series X can do cache coherency but has to use the CPU to do so. PS5's CPU doesn't need to manage cache coherency. Cache coherency is important because data in different memory addresses needs to be correct/synced so that programs don't use stale data and hit an error, wasting cycles or creating a stall), much higher raw & decompressed SSD bandwidth, higher geometry culling, higher pixel fillrate, and a more powerful audio subsystem.

Also while Series X is better at Mesh Shading, PS5 is better at Primitive Shading and both systems are capable of either approach. So it's literally impossible to say Series X is objectively more powerful than PS5 unless measuring a very select, narrow range of specs, which won't tell the whole story of overall system performance anyway.

To the second one, yeah of course it's subjective, but it's mainly going to be down to whose 1P you prefer, if you have nostalgia for certain retro systems, and if you're a big fan of smaller indie games, as those are the big differentiators in the services library-wise.
 

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I only became a fan of Xbox in late 2020. It's the best deal in gaming so I'm keeping it, thx for your advice.
Oh boy, that explains why you are so ignorant. Talk about having terrible timing.

The first one is objectively true, the second one is an opinion, depending in your taste of games of course.
The only objective truth here is that Xbox is garbage. The entire human race already agreed to it, your are one of the very few who are still in denial.
 

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No it's not. Series X might have a CU, texture fillrate, raw peak RAM bandwidth, (possibly) more robust ML (tho for most gaming tasks you don't need any precision lower than FP16; if INT8 & INT4 precision is exclusive to Series it's mainly due to its dual use in Azure clusters where raw data compute with ML is required), and (very slight) CPU speed advantage, and a potential advantage with Mesh Shaders (due to higher CU count), but PS5 has a lot of its own advantages over Series X.

Much higher GPU clockrate, faster GPU caches, cache scrubbers (these help with selectively adjusting parts of the cache data without needing to flush the entire line out to perform a write (and needing to re-write the cache line, eating up processing cycles). Dunno if PS5 uses patrol-based or demand-based scrubbing though), cache coherency engines (Series X can do cache coherency but has to use the CPU to do so. PS5's CPU doesn't need to manage cache coherency. Cache coherency is important because data in different memory addresses needs to be correct/synced so that programs don't use stale data and hit an error, wasting cycles or creating a stall), much higher raw & decompressed SSD bandwidth, higher geometry culling, higher pixel fillrate, and a more powerful audio subsystem.

Also while Series X is better at Mesh Shading, PS5 is better at Primitive Shading and both systems are capable of either approach. So it's literally impossible to say Series X is objectively more powerful than PS5 unless measuring a very select, narrow range of specs, which won't tell the whole story of overall system performance anyway.

To the second one, yeah of course it's subjective, but it's mainly going to be down to whose 1P you prefer, if you have nostalgia for certain retro systems, and if you're a big fan of smaller indie games, as those are the big differentiators in the services library-wise.
I was only looking at benchmarks. Xbox wins overall, even though it's close (as it should be considering the small TF difference and the fact that cross-gen games prefer narrow and fast GPU architectures).
 

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But an objectively superior hardware would win every single comparison (random outliers excluded), which is not the case.
12 > 10 still applies, imo. Differences in architecture and stuff like Xbox running DX12 makes the difference a bit smaller than the pure numbers, though.
 
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