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Nickolaidas said:



Not sure if this is a typo, or a very clever pun. :ROFLMAO:

Seriously, getting permabanned for not agreeing with what the headhoncho said was not on my bingo card. I liked NeoGaf. It had some good talks and people more or less liked what I had to say. This place, I like the fact that it is more lax in the moderation front, but the PC hate kinda puts me off. I mean ...

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News Thread 'The Witcher 3 Sold Better on Consoles'

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The Witcher 3 was once seen as a PC staple, but the truth hurts: Consoles accounted for nearly 60% of sales, while PC trailed behind with just 40.3%. So much for the so called 'Master Race'

While PC gamers were busy tweaking settings and modding naked characters, console players were actually playing the game. The Witcher now belongs to consoles.
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Making this thread just to shit on PC gamers because ... Witcher 3 sold more on PS for a couple of years. I'm like ... and? A cheeseburger sells more than a well-cooked steak. How exactly is this interpreted as the cheeseburger being a better and healthier food than a well-cooked steak? What exactly is the gatcha here?


I'm like, "This name rings a bell - I'm sure I debated with that guy back in NeoGAF ..."

I think he was a console-hater who praised PC tech? I think back them I was a Sony Pony so I was against him, but I think he was very arrogant in his way of talking? Not really sure - been a long time since then.
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Most of the pc hate stuff is a bit of a joke.

We would just prefer to have some of the single player first party stuff stay exclusive on PlayStation.

Pc is a great platform, it makes sense for a lot of people.
 
Nickolaidas said:



Not sure if this is a typo, or a very clever pun. :ROFLMAO:

Seriously, getting permabanned for not agreeing with what the headhoncho said was not on my bingo card. I liked NeoGaf. It had some good talks and people more or less liked what I had to say. This place, I like the fact that it is more lax in the moderation front, but the PC hate kinda puts me off. I mean ...

Puff

News Thread 'The Witcher 3 Sold Better on Consoles'

08nUKCa.png


The Witcher 3 was once seen as a PC staple, but the truth hurts: Consoles accounted for nearly 60% of sales, while PC trailed behind with just 40.3%. So much for the so called 'Master Race'

While PC gamers were busy tweaking settings and modding naked characters, console players were actually playing the game. The Witcher now belongs to consoles.
  • Like
  • haha
  • thinking_hard

Making this thread just to shit on PC gamers because ... Witcher 3 sold more on PS for a couple of years. I'm like ... and? A cheeseburger sells more than a well-cooked steak. How exactly is this interpreted as the cheeseburger being a better and healthier food than a well-cooked steak? What exactly is the gatcha here?


I'm like, "This name rings a bell - I'm sure I debated with that guy back in NeoGAF ..."

I think he was a console-hater who praised PC tech? I think back them I was a Sony Pony so I was against him, but I think he was very arrogant in his way of talking? Not really sure - been a long time since then.
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Most of the PC hate stems from 2 things:
-Xbox refugees on PC trying to continue the console war
-Sony's absolutely pathetic PC port strategy that's netted them very little return in exchange for damaging their brand heavily
 
Bryank75 said:
We would just prefer to have some of the single player first party stuff stay exclusive on PlayStation.
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I understand the reasoning - either it is because you guys feel that resources are allocated in PC ports while they could go to PS titles, or you feel the game isn't taking 100% advantage of the PS hardware because they have a pc port in the back of their heads, or you are afraid that people (like me) will leave the ecosystem in order to game on another machine WITH the games of the PS library now on Steam.

The reason I left the PS ecosystem - and all consoles, really - is the fact that I got tired of anxiously hoping that the next PS will have adequate update abilities for the older PS console's games via backwards compatibility. I was certain that the PS5 would take advantage of its hardware and have all PS4 games run at 4K/60 fps.

But no. Tough shit. Wanna play Bloodborne on PS5? Sure. 1080p at 24-30 fps. Want to play Shadow Warriors 2? 1080p at 30 fps. Doesn't matter that your new console is ten times stronger. Unless they patch the fucking game, it's like playing on a base/pro PS4.

PC doesn't have that. You upgraded your rig? All your games are upgraded, no patches needed. You want to tinker a bit with the game's engine, script, character models, music? Chances are you can mod that shit. Are the devs fucking lazy and didn't bother to do X on the game? Chances are the community will fix the problem.

Is PC gaming flawless? Hell no. Very high barrier of entry if you want to game like the big boys. Get ready to shell out a LOT more cash than your rig is actually worth. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Thanks, Nvidia! Are PC ports perfect? Sure they are - and my cock is 30 inches long. It has its issues. But every ecosystem today has. The days of making fun of badly optimized PC games are over once you see that consoles today are suffering from the same fate.

At the end of the day:

Consoles - cheaper hardware with a lower barrier of entry, but limited backwards compatibility and relatively high prices in software. Games exclusive to the ecosystem. You pay for online.

PCs - expensive hardware with a higher barrier of entry, but games run at generally higher quality and relatively low prices in software. Modding allows you to tinker with your games. Online is free. Gabe.

Bryank75 said:
Pc is a great platform, it makes sense for a lot of people.
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Consoles will always exist. People will always want the cheaper plug and play hardware with access to 95% of all AAA games of today's market. But for those who are willing to pay the extra extra buck, they shall experience most games at their highest quality.
 
Nickolaidas said:
I understand the reasoning - either it is because you guys feel that resources are allocated in PC ports while they could go to PS titles, or you feel the game isn't taking 100% advantage of the PS hardware because they have a pc port in the back of their heads, or you are afraid that people (like me) will leave the ecosystem in order to game on another machine WITH the games of the PS library now on Steam.

The reason I left the PS ecosystem - and all consoles, really - is the fact that I got tired of anxiously hoping that the next PS will have adequate update abilities for the older PS console's games via backwards compatibility. I was certain that the PS5 would take advantage of its hardware and have all PS4 games run at 4K/60 fps.

But no. Tough shit. Wanna play Bloodborne on PS5? Sure. 1080p at 24-30 fps. Want to play Shadow Warriors 2? 1080p at 30 fps. Doesn't matter that your new console is ten times stronger. Unless they patch the fucking game, it's like playing on a base/pro PS4.

PC doesn't have that. You upgraded your rig? All your games are upgraded, no patches needed. You want to tinker a bit with the game's engine, script, character models, music? Chances are you can mod that shit. Are the devs fucking lazy and didn't bother to do X on the game? Chances are the community will fix the problem.

Is PC gaming flawless? Hell no. Very high barrier of entry if you want to game like the big boys. Get ready to shell out a LOT more cash than your rig is actually worth. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Thanks, Nvidia! Are PC ports perfect? Sure they are - and my cock is 30 inches long. It has its issues. But every ecosystem today has. The days of making fun of badly optimized PC games are over once you see that consoles today are suffering from the same fate.

At the end of the day:

Consoles - cheaper hardware with a lower barrier of entry, but limited backwards compatibility and relatively high prices in software. Games exclusive to the ecosystem. You pay for online.

PCs - expensive hardware with a higher barrier of entry, but games run at generally higher quality and relatively low prices in software. Modding allows you to tinker with your games. Online is free. Gabe.


Consoles will always exist. People will always want the cheaper plug and play hardware with access to 95% of all AAA games of today's market. But for those who are willing to pay the extra extra buck, they shall experience most games at their highest quality.
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Excited Sister Act GIF


Some people here still think having a PC is like having Herpes or something. But that's a small crowd and notorious assholes of all sides get removed from this little Shangri La. The moderation is fair and the mods can take a jab or 2. Or 50...

As long as you buy them off with coke and hookers, you'll be fine here.
 
Nickolaidas said:
I understand the reasoning - either it is because you guys feel that resources are allocated in PC ports while they could go to PS titles, or you feel the game isn't taking 100% advantage of the PS hardware because they have a pc port in the back of their heads, or you are afraid that people (like me) will leave the ecosystem in order to game on another machine WITH the games of the PS library now on Steam.

The reason I left the PS ecosystem - and all consoles, really - is the fact that I got tired of anxiously hoping that the next PS will have adequate update abilities for the older PS console's games via backwards compatibility. I was certain that the PS5 would take advantage of its hardware and have all PS4 games run at 4K/60 fps.

But no. Tough shit. Wanna play Bloodborne on PS5? Sure. 1080p at 24-30 fps. Want to play Shadow Warriors 2? 1080p at 30 fps. Doesn't matter that your new console is ten times stronger. Unless they patch the fucking game, it's like playing on a base/pro PS4.

PC doesn't have that. You upgraded your rig? All your games are upgraded, no patches needed. You want to tinker a bit with the game's engine, script, character models, music? Chances are you can mod that shit. Are the devs fucking lazy and didn't bother to do X on the game? Chances are the community will fix the problem.

Is PC gaming flawless? Hell no. Very high barrier of entry if you want to game like the big boys. Get ready to shell out a LOT more cash than your rig is actually worth. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Thanks, Nvidia! Are PC ports perfect? Sure they are - and my cock is 30 inches long. It has its issues. But every ecosystem today has. The days of making fun of badly optimized PC games are over once you see that consoles today are suffering from the same fate.

At the end of the day:

Consoles - cheaper hardware with a lower barrier of entry, but limited backwards compatibility and relatively high prices in software. Games exclusive to the ecosystem. You pay for online.

PCs - expensive hardware with a higher barrier of entry, but games run at generally higher quality and relatively low prices in software. Modding allows you to tinker with your games. Online is free. Gabe.


Consoles will always exist. People will always want the cheaper plug and play hardware with access to 95% of all AAA games of today's market. But for those who are willing to pay the extra extra buck, they shall experience most games at their highest quality.
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as a pc gamer for almost 35 years, the pc experience has always been that if you pay for the top end, you get a great experience. If you pay for low end, you spend endless hours fiddling around to get an acceptable experience. Mods are overrated and 90% of the time ruin the experience. The mods that are good are the ones that fix gamebreaking bugs or performance problems, things that shouldn't exist in the game in the first place. In some rare instances mods are transformative enough that they spawn their own games (e.g. counterstrike and natural selection or dota) but those are basically extreme outliers.

There is no reason not to own both. My PC is twice as strong as my ps5 pro but I still game fairly equally on them (lately more on the ps due to death stranding and atelier yumia).
 
anonpuffs said:
as a pc gamer for almost 35 years, the pc experience has always been that if you pay for the top end, you get a great experience. If you pay for low end, you spend endless hours fiddling around to get an acceptable experience. Mods are overrated and 90% of the time ruin the experience. The mods that are good are the ones that fix gamebreaking bugs or performance problems, things that shouldn't exist in the game in the first place. In some rare instances mods are transformative enough that they spawn their own games (e.g. counterstrike and natural selection or dota) but those are basically extreme outliers.

There is no reason not to own both. My PC is twice as strong as my ps5 pro but I still game fairly equally on them (lately more on the ps due to death stranding and atelier yumia).
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Agreed on almost everything except mods being overrated (that's subjective imo, I can't imagine playing Skyrim without my 120-mod pack), and on the 'no reason to own both'.

An ecosystem is an investment. If for whatever reason you stop gaming on consoles or your PC and you sell your Pro or your PC breaks down or whatever, you lose access to your entire library on that ecosystem. So you either have to double dip to regain access to that particular game on your now-solo ecosystem, or you don't play that game again.

So I thought to myself: the more I invest on a gaming ecosystem, the harder it is to pull away once I sell the hardware that gives me access to said ecosystem or it breaks down. So when I decided to have one ecosystem, I went with PC, due to its far superior upgrade capabilities and almost perfect backwards compatibility. It wasn't the easiest choice - it still stings that I pre-purchased Demon's Souls the PS5 and I never bought the damn console - but in the end, I am glad I did it. I now have fully committed on gaming on Steam, and the occasional emulator (currently playing Dragon's Crown Pro in my PS4 emulator and it runs almost flawlessly at 4K/60 fps).

I double dipped for the Monster Hunters, the Resident Evils, the FROM games and the Dead Spaces, but I don't see myself going back now.
 
Nickolaidas said:
Agreed on almost everything except mods being overrated (that's subjective imo, I can't imagine playing Skyrim without my 120-mod pack), and on the 'no reason to own both'.

An ecosystem is an investment. If for whatever reason you stop gaming on consoles or your PC and you sell your Pro or your PC breaks down or whatever, you lose access to your entire library on that ecosystem. So you either have to double dip to regain access to that particular game on your now-solo ecosystem, or you don't play that game again.

So I thought to myself: the more I invest on a gaming ecosystem, the harder it is to pull away once I sell the hardware that gives me access to said ecosystem or it breaks down. So when I decided to have one ecosystem, I went with PC, due to its far superior upgrade capabilities and almost perfect backwards compatibility. It wasn't the easiest choice - it still stings that I pre-purchased Demon's Souls the PS5 and I never bought the damn console - but in the end, I am glad I did it. I now have fully committed on gaming on Steam, and the occasional emulator (currently playing Dragon's Crown Pro in my PS4 emulator and it runs almost flawlessly at 4K/60 fps).

I double dipped for the Monster Hunters, the Resident Evils, the FROM games and the Dead Spaces, but I don't see myself going back now.
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-Skyrim: That's because the base game is overrated as FUCK and I will stand on that
-Ecosystem: So? Steam and PS ecosystems are easily recoverable since they're tied to emails. Also you'll still have the discs if you buy physical. The ecosystem investment argument is nonsense, what if your gpu or console fails, then you lose access to your games ohnoes. It's on you if you forget your login and want to go back after 10 years or whatever.
-Like I said, there is no reason not to own both. PCs and consoles don't typically stop working after 2-3 years. Plenty of people still boot up the ol' NES for retro gaming and there's a whole community dedicated to CRTs. If it really is that much of a financial stretch, then you have to accept that you aren't going to get the full gaming experience.
 
Personally, I think that PC is a trash platform to actually play games on, and throughly enjoy seeing the pushback against it and all the performance issues are funny to see.

I do use it to develop games on though, great platform for that.
 
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Raonak said:
Personally, I think that PC is a trash platform to actually play games on, and throughly enjoy seeing the pushback against it and all the performance issues are funny to see.

I do use it to develop games on though, great platform for that.
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You are entitled to your opinion. But fuck all if I'd agree.
PC is fine if you know how to properly optimize it AND if you dont expect new games to run properly on old hardware. Thats where most of the complaints come from. And yes a lot of games are poorly optimised but still its my preferred platform

You find it funny to see. That's a shitty pov but you're honest at least.

I chose PC for the multitude of things. Video editing, gaming, work etc. and it works fine on all fronts.

PC will never be optimized for games alone. Consoles are. BIG difference.
 
Men_in_Boxes said:
I just want to say, I found this place on Twitter. Your Tweets kept popping up on my "For You" section and after a while, I finally clicked on you and investigated. You're not perfect (GAAS blindspot), but you have cultivated a nice home here. Thank you for creating this Haven for gamers.
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He said all of this, yet he got banned on here for being pro GAAS. LMAO
 
Nickolaidas said:
Today I got permabanned on GAF.

This is why:

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Wish I could say I will be here more often now, but the truth is that this place is too pro-Sony for my tastes.

Need to find myself a PC gaming forum that isn't completely overrun by the woketards and that actually have more than ten members ... and right now, that is a tough find. Seems that the majority of PC gamers post on Steam forums or something (cough, ptui).
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This site being “too pro Sony” Now that’s a take. LMAO
 
Petekilla said:
This site being “too pro Sony” Now that’s a take. LMAO
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You are entertained easily aren't you? LMAO

And he's right. You have to be blind if you don't see this site HEAVILY favors Sony. CMON!
But if you understand the origins, its not that strange.

LMAO
Cracks Me Up Steve Harvey GIF by ABC Network
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
I found him to be pretty funny on GAF.

He was a GaaS megafan, but sometimes you need posters like that to push back on a narrative that's gone too far in one direction
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Nah he was given a pretty long leash here, I forget what the thread was about but I remember thinking "huh, makes sense" when the reasoning was given for thread closure

He would have been fine if he had just moved on but then he tried to have some sort of "give me liberty or give me death" drama moment
 
James Sawyer Ford said:
I found him to be pretty funny on GAF.

He was a GaaS megafan, but sometimes you need posters like that to push back on a narrative that's gone too far in one direction
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That's how I felt about him. But unfortunately he derailed every thread to glaze GAAS..... unsurprisingly lmao.

I loved his counter to many people who visit forums and think single player is the only type of game worth playing. People in spaces like this should seriously understand multiplayer games are not a bad thing, he seemed to understand that more than many others who swing by forums.
 
voke said:
People in spaces like this should seriously understand multiplayer games are not a bad thing, he seemed to understand that more than many others who swing by forums.
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The problem is not that Multiplayer exists or that people like/play that. The problem is that Multiplayer/Online-Games opened the door to the most predatory and disgusting practices in the entire Gaming-World!

Multiplayer just attracted all those lonely and desperate social-gamers, who would play some "Free-To-Play" slop, and then throw in thousands for the most hilarious monetization shemes, just to succumb to their compulsion, gambling-addiction, social-rejection and many other issues. There are literally psychologists working for the big gaming-publishers, focused on exploiting and social-engineering the living c*** out of those people, to turn them into brain-dead mice, running their slop mazes, and even feel confident in throwing money at it!

Don't believe me? Just think about it! Almost all of the worst Games and Trends in Gaming are somehow tied to Online/Live-Service Games!
 
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