Xbox needs to be called out more for its lack of innovation.

[Deleted member 13]

My main beef with the GP setup (and even cloud) is that it makes these big companies potential gatekeepers of content. It's one reason the PC is so important for creativity and small devs. Anyone can push out any software they want currently. It's fine if it all co-exists, I just hope people don't get so hooked on "cheap content" (that is potentially subsidized by trillion dollar companies) that they aren't willing to spend cash supporting people who don't want to be behind those gates, or get denied etc, etc.

Agree with this. It's dangerous and why PC gaming will remain open-ended for the foreseeable future. The consoles are sort of gatekeepers now anyway because I hate that if you buy a game disk, you can't play the game without the disc. That sucks.

 

[Swift_Star]

Agree with this. It's dangerous and why PC gaming will remain open-ended for the foreseeable future. The consoles are sort of gatekeepers now anyway because I hate that if you buy a game disk, you can't play the game without the disc. That sucks.

This is so annoying on ps5. I can’t have only the ps5 version of RE2 installed. Got to have both.

 

[LightBolt]

PlayStation 5 does not have quick resume and it also does not have Smart delivery.

Cloud computing is very real and it's shown firsthand in Microsoft flight simulator.

DXR and VRS are technologies which were first brought to gaming via Microsoft.

Play Anywhere has nothing to do with the cloud, it's a single purchase which applies to both the console and PC.

Game Pass is nothing like PS Plus.

Altering non-post rendering and framerates without touching code in the console space is a new form of backward compatibility.

You're not educated enough to have this conversation.

Let's not use attacks for people over topics thanks.

 

[Katajx]

This is so annoying on ps5. I can’t have only the ps5 version of RE2 installed. Got to have both.

So you have the ps4 disc and the ps5 version as the upgrade? Asking because I have the PS5DE.

 

[Swift_Star]

So you have the ps4 disc and the ps5 version as the upgrade? Asking because I have the PS5DE.

Yes. And you have to have the disc on console. That’s not the problem. The problem is that the console refuses to acknowledge the ps5 version and installs the ps4 one lmao. That’s my one and only grip with the console so far.

 

[Katajx]

Yes. And you have to have the disc on console. That’s not the problem. The problem is that the console refuses to acknowledge the ps5 version and installs the ps4 one lmao. That’s my one and only grip with the console so far.

I see. I remember the crossgen digital games I bought were weird like that in the beginning and I had to keep deleting the ps4 versions till they sorted that out.

 

[DynamiteCop]

Let's not use attacks for people over topics thanks.

It's not an attack, he doesn't even know what these features are which means there's a clear lack of Education. I don't know anything about neurology and you wouldn't see me talking about it because I don't have the knowledge to discuss it.

 

[DynamiteCop]

This is so annoying on ps5. I can’t have only the ps5 version of RE2 installed. Got to have both.

Hence Smart Delivery.

 

[Cragarmi]

This is so annoying on ps5. I can’t have only the ps5 version of RE2 installed. Got to have both.

I have the PS4 disk, and only the PS5 version is installed. Just delete the PS4 version! Worked for me, doesn't ask me to install again when I use the disc. It just leaves a very small file in kb on the drive which had the PS4 ver, which I believe tells it you have the PS5 version to not run the install from disc.

 

[Swift_Star]

I have the PS4 disk, and only the PS5 version is installed. Just delete the PS4 version! Worked for me, doesn't ask me to install again when I use the disc. It just leaves a very small file in kb on the drive which had the PS4 ver, which I believe tells it you have the PS5 version to not run the install from disc.

Gonna try that again later!

 

[Cragarmi]

Hence Smart Delivery.

But then I can't install the previous gen version if I want to, and it effectively acts as DRM connecting to the internet to check which version you need before letting you install anything

 

[DynamiteCop]

But then I can't install the previous gen version if I want to, and it effectively acts as DRM connecting to the internet to check which version you need before letting you install anything

Why would you want to install the last gen version lol? Fake necessity to disregard a feature which removes these dumb oversights.

 

[Swift_Star]

Why would you want to install the last gen version lol? Fake necessity to disregard a feature which removes these dumb oversights.

ER ps4 version runs better than ps5 version. And a choice should be given to the end user, no?

 

[Cragarmi]

Why would you want to install the last gen version lol? Fake necessity to disregard a feature which removes these dumb oversights.

Sometimes the previous gen version has the better frame rate, or it may be years later and the game has been removed from the servers due to licensing.

 

[DynamiteCop]

ER ps4 version runs better than ps5 version. And a choice should be given to the end user, no?

Sometimes the previous gen version has the better frame rate, or it may be years later and the game has been removed from the servers due to licensing.

Examples? If this is even a thing it's a total fringe case, and the difference in frame rate would be so imperceptible you would need something like VGTech to even alert you to it.

So, again pointless, and you lose out on the advancement in fidelity and graphical setting. It's total fake disregard for a problem which isn't present.

Also you get presented with those weird situations where you need X version of the game installed to even get Y version to work. It's a total lack of legwork in coding to let the user deal with the BS.

 

[Swift_Star]

Examples? If this is even a thing it's a total fringe case, and the difference in frame rate would be so imperceptible you would need something like VGTech to even alert you to it.

So, again pointless, and you lose out on the advancement in fidelity and graphical setting. It's total fake disregard for a problem which isn't present.

Also you get presented with those weird situations where you need X version of the game installed to even get Y version to work. It's a total lack of legwork in coding to let the user deal with the BS.

People should still be given a choice of what version they want to install regardless. They bought two licenses, they should be able to choose which one to install.

 

[Katajx]

Examples? If this is even a thing it's a total fringe case, and the difference in frame rate would be so imperceptible you would need something like VGTech to even alert you to it.

So, again pointless, and you lose out on the advancement in fidelity and graphical setting. It's total fake disregard for a problem which isn't present.

Also you get presented with those weird situations where you need X version of the game installed to even get Y version to work. It's a total lack of legwork in coding to let the user deal with the BS.

Iirc DF and other said it was unlocked on PS5 but dipped below 60 and was near locked running the ps4 version instead. I stayed with the PS5 version and never looked back though.

Talking about ER. Ignorant about your second quote.

 

[DynamiteCop]

People should still be given a choice of what version they want to install regardless. They bought two licenses, they should be able to choose which one to install.

They didn't buy two licenses, it's a single license with a branch in code.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

Agree with this. It's dangerous and why PC gaming will remain open-ended for the foreseeable future. The consoles are sort of gatekeepers now anyway because I hate that if you buy a game disk, you can't play the game without the disc. That sucks.

I stopped buying discs. You lose the disc, you lose the game. And wither you buy a diisc or digital, you will download the entire thing in many if not most of the games. So, no point of discs anymore, other than buillding those nice collection shelves.

 

[Swift_Star]

They didn't buy two licenses, it's a single license with a branch in code.

Nope. It’s two licenses.