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Gears of War: E-Day | Review Thread

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Prometheus said:
Having a wife and kid(s) is a normal part of society. It's how we survive as a species.

Contrary to popular belief, homosexuality is not the norm.

Whilst these MGS games feature bisexual characters, their sexuality does not dictate their personality.
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Being lesbian is also a normal part of society. And no one is saying homosexuality is the norm. But it is normal and those people exist. Looking at Gears you have 3 heterosexual dudes and one lesbian woman in the squad. How do you somehow interpret that as homosexuality being "pushed" as the norm? Like I said, there is a major double standard in seeing a woman taking a polaroid of her girlfriend as "shoving sexuality down people's throats" while not batting an eye at the guy voicing worries about his wife and kids in the same scene. Heterosexuality is also a type of sexuality and it's "shoved down people's throats" on a daily basis in all forms of media if you want to look at it that way.

And again, how the hell does the sexuality of MGS characters not influence their personality? The codec discussion about Vamp literally says his code name, which I'd say is a huge part of his personality, is a reference to his sexual orientation and not his vampire-like qualities. He develops a very strong affection towards Fortune because she's the daughter of his male lover. Volgin literally sees through your disguise by fondling your junk. He gets confused and then mad at you if you put on the mask of his gay lover during the fight with him. Meaning his sexuality is even implemented from a gameplay perspective. In Peace Walker you also have Dr. Strangelove making it very obvious through dialogue that she's not into men and prefers women.

Like what are we doing here? A character literally named after his sexual orientation is ok and not "pushing it in your face" but a character whose sexuality is only hinted through 10 seconds of a cutscene with zero dialogue at is a bridge too far?
 
Yrassinad said:
Being lesbian is also a normal part of society. And no one is saying homosexuality is the norm. But it is normal and those people exist. Looking at Gears you have 3 heterosexual dudes and one lesbian woman in the squad. How do you somehow interpret that as homosexuality being "pushed" as the norm? Like I said, there is a major double standard in seeing a woman taking a polaroid of her girlfriend as "shoving sexuality down people's throats" while not batting an eye at the guy voicing worries about his wife and kids in the same scene. Heterosexuality is also a type of sexuality and it's "shoved down people's throats" on a daily basis in all forms of media if you want to look at it that way.

And again, how the hell does the sexuality of MGS characters not influence their personality? The codec discussion about Vamp literally says his code name, which I'd say is a huge part of his personality, is a reference to his sexual orientation and not his vampire-like qualities. He develops a very strong affection towards Fortune because she's the daughter of his male lover. Volgin literally sees through your disguise by fondling your junk. He gets confused and then mad at you if you put on the mask of his gay lover during the fight with him. Meaning his sexuality is even implemented from a gameplay perspective. In Peace Walker you also have Dr. Strangelove making it very obvious through dialogue that she's not into men and prefers women.

Like what are we doing here? A character literally named after his sexual orientation is ok and not "pushing it in your face" but a character whose sexuality is only hinted through 10 seconds of a cutscene with zero dialogue at is a bridge too far?
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The difference is, none of those characters are written to be someone they aren't. Volgin is a great antagonist, regardless of whether he rails Raikov on his spare time. His writing was great. Vamp was not a particularly likable character but he was also written well.

The lesbian in Gears is basically a dude with tits. She sounds and acts like a bloke. The writing is fucking awful.

If a game has shit writing, I'll call out on it.
 
Prometheus said:
The difference is, none of those characters are written to be someone they aren't. Volgin is a great antagonist, regardless of whether he rails Raikov on his spare time. His writing was great. Vamp was not a particularly likable character but he was also written well.

The lesbian in Gears is basically a dude with tits. She sounds and acts like a bloke. The writing is fucking awful.

If a game has shit writing, I'll call out on it.
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So the woman is a butch lesbian but she's also written to be someone she isn't unlike the LGBT characters in Metal Gear? Sounds to me like she's written exactly like who she's supposed to be if she comes across as a "dude with tits". That's pretty much what butch lesbians are if you want to describe it in that way.

You're just moving goalposts at this point. We went from acting like Kojima games have no LGBT representation, to then claiming LGBT is fine as long as it isn't "on the nose", to then saying the sexuality of MGS characters don't define their personality, to now saying it's all about the writing quality.

If it was all about the writing quality then why not ask for better writing instead of making a problem about the presence, look and sexuality of the character? Your initial post was complaining about her haircut and other features, not how she was written. Why not say "I wish writers would learn to write better lesbian characters" or whatever. And is there any way for them to actually write a butch lesbian character in a way that you are ok with it?
 
Yrassinad said:
So the woman is a butch lesbian but she's also written to be someone she isn't unlike the LGBT characters in Metal Gear? Sounds to me like she's written exactly like who she's supposed to be if she comes across as a "dude with tits". That's pretty much what butch lesbians are if you want to describe it in that way.

You're just moving goalposts at this point. We went from acting like Kojima games have no LGBT representation, to then claiming LGBT is fine as long as it isn't "on the nose", to then saying the sexuality of MGS characters don't define their personality, to now saying it's all about the writing quality.

If it was all about the writing quality then why not ask for better writing instead of making a problem about the presence, look and sexuality of the character? Your initial post was complaining about her haircut and other features, not how she was written. Why not say "I wish writers would learn to write better lesbian characters" or whatever. And is there any way for them to actually write a butch lesbian character in a way that you are ok with it?
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There is no getting through to that crowd. It's joever for gaming discourse as long these grifters keep pumping out sensational content for insecure people who cannot see the world outside their prejudice without throwing a tantrum
 
voke said:
There is no getting through to that crowd. It's joever for gaming discourse as long these grifters keep pumping out sensational content for insecure people who cannot see the world outside their prejudice without throwing a tantrum
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I just don't like to see woke shite in my games.

Having said that, the game is pretty fun. I'm enjoying it.

Yrassinad said:
So the woman is a butch lesbian but she's also written to be someone she isn't unlike the LGBT characters in Metal Gear? Sounds to me like she's written exactly like who she's supposed to be if she comes across as a "dude with tits". That's pretty much what butch lesbians are if you want to describe it in that way.

You're just moving goalposts at this point. We went from acting like Kojima games have no LGBT representation, to then claiming LGBT is fine as long as it isn't "on the nose", to then saying the sexuality of MGS characters don't define their personality, to now saying it's all about the writing quality.

If it was all about the writing quality then why not ask for better writing instead of making a problem about the presence, look and sexuality of the character? Your initial post was complaining about her haircut and other features, not how she was written. Why not say "I wish writers would learn to write better lesbian characters" or whatever. And is there any way for them to actually write a butch lesbian character in a way that you are ok with it?
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Well yes, it doesn't define their entire personality. As I mentioned previously, the 'LGBT' representation in Kojima's games did not bother me. Volgin is still a great antagonist - one of the best villains across across gaming.

Back to Carter - 'she' is a shit character throughout with the same old tired common tropes. She is being pushed as some of sort of savior in the group. She is very much 'in your face'.
 
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Prometheus said:
Well yes, it doesn't define their entire personality. As I mentioned previously, the 'LGBT' representation in Kojima's games did not bother me. Volgin is still a great antagonist - one of the best villains across across gaming.

Back to Carter - 'she' is a shit character throughout with the same old tired common tropes. She is being pushed as some of sort of savior in the group. She is very much 'in your face'.
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Obviously the sexuality of these LGBT characters in Metal Gear doesn't define their entire personality but so far from what I've seen the sexuality of those characters is a lot more in your face than the sexuality of this Carter character (whose sexuality is only hinted at when she takes a polaroid selfie with her girlfriend from her apartment).

Looking at the character I just don't see how it's any different from something like Vasquez in Aliens. Why wouldn't a frontline soldier be "in your face"? Should she be a damsel in distress that constantly needs to be protected and saved just because she's a woman or something?

I mean the fact that you're putting her gender in quotation marks shows to me it has nothing to do with the writing and you just don't like that women like her are now represented in media (although like I said, this is nothing new and was happening in 80s films too).
 
game runs like shit later on.
Every encounter with boomers or other big enemies is terrible.
Boomers especially - they charge you and you are constantly down. Totally different than old games
 
rofif said:
game runs like shit later on.
Every encounter with boomers or other big enemies is terrible.
Boomers especially - they charge you and you are constantly down. Totally different than old games
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Graphics look worse than gears 5..missing destruction too...flat campaign...7 years for this game..

 
Airbus said:
Graphics look worse than gears 5..missing destruction too...flat campaign...7 years for this game..

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Graphics look great. way better than gears 5.
Destruction is limited yeah but I dont mind.
Anyway - ending chapter 3 is awesome. The game really is spectacular when it comes to action and graphics. And audio is very good too.
In general, I am enjoying it a lot. It feels almost like a classic gears. almost.
better than space marine 2
 
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rofif said:
game runs like shit later on.
Every encounter with boomers or other big enemies is terrible.
Boomers especially - they charge you and you are constantly down. Totally different than old games
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What is your system?

Performance is average. I need DLSS Performance for acceptable frame rates IE 90FPS or more.

I've never had massive framedrops.

But I am surprised you think the graphics look good. The game looks so average.
 
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