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QuantumCringe said:
I don't think you know what woke means
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This is funny coming from people like you who use that word and are the ones who have no clue about the origins of it and what being woke actually means. Maybe if you all knew you would stop using it since it comes from a race of people you have an issue with being in movies and games. You constantly steal terms and change the meaning for your stupid agenda. Or just use it because it the cool thing to say.

As is usually the case with popular slang in America. The world in fact. Hate the people, love the style.
 
On Demand said:
This is funny coming from people like you who use that word and are the ones who have no clue about the origins of it and what being woke actually means. Maybe if you all knew you would stop using it since it comes from a race of people you have an issue with being in movies and games. You constantly steal terms and change the meaning for your stupid agenda. Or just use it because it the cool thing to say.

As is usually the case with popular slang in America. The world in fact. Hate the people, love the style.
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You are weird
 
Yrassinad said:
If having gay characters in a game doesn't make it woke, then having trans and bisexual characters in a game doesn't make it woke either.

There is literally almost NO game that even mentions pronouns in game other than at the character creation screen. So if woke just means "apologize if you didn't use my pronoun", then pretty much no game is woke. Baldur's Gate literally let's you create a woman with a dong and a buff orc dude with a pussy. And let's you fuck everyone you want, there's not a single straight character that goes "I don't swing that way" if you try to romance them unlike in say Cyberpunk 2077. If that isn't overtly woke, nothing is. And that's not even touching on all the obvious metaphorical stories these RPGs include about oppression of and racism against minorities.

You guys just want to twist the definition of woke to suit your retarded "go woke go broke" punchline. Supposedly Sweet Baby Inc is a guarantee for commercial failure, except we have multiple games they consulted on that sold 10m+ copies and are huge financial successes. Then I guess the game must've succeeded in spite of their consultancy, but when the game flops it's 100% because of their input. Catering to minorities by having pronouns and trans character creation options is woke pandering and will cause your game to flop, except when it's Baldur's Gate or Cyberpunk, then it suddenly doesn't count and it's not "woke". How convenient.



Then all the old Dragon Age, Mass Effect and Witcher games are definitely woke. Because they're full of stories and subplots about oppression of minorities.



Lmao, I'm not the one infected with a mind virus, you guys are. You can somehow see Vasquez in Aliens and not see any issue with it (because of nostalgia bias from a time before you got brainwashed) but the moment Gears of War sports a character that is also a butch "one of the boys" female frontline soldier it's suddenly woke propaganda and forcing stuff down people's throats.

If a video game studio made a woman character that looked like this in 2026:
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All the grifters would be saying they "uglified" her, made her "look like a man", would make dozens of videos about how she makes the men in the movie look incompetent (since she is one of the last to die in the movie) which is part of the woke agenda and so on.

Hell, they'd probably pull up this pic:

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To make some dumb argument about how pretty the actress is and how these "deranged activists" adjust the actress's look on purpose to make her less attractive (like they're doing with God of War Laufey).

Also fun fact: in the original script for Aliens the female marines were supposed to shower alongside the male marines. Kind of woke don't you think? I thought "men" shouldn't be sharing a bathroom/dressing room with women?
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If films like The Matrix were released today if would be their stupid definition of woke. Mopheus be black and even worse, The Oracle being a black women.

Trinity being a strong Girl Boss too.
 
Yrassinad said:
If having gay characters in a game doesn't make it woke, then having trans and bisexual characters in a game doesn't make it woke either.

There is literally almost NO game that even mentions pronouns in game other than at the character creation screen. So if woke just means "apologize if you didn't use my pronoun", then pretty much no game is woke. Baldur's Gate literally let's you create a woman with a dong and a buff orc dude with a pussy. And let's you fuck everyone you want, there's not a single straight character that goes "I don't swing that way" if you try to romance them unlike in say Cyberpunk 2077. If that isn't overtly woke, nothing is. And that's not even touching on all the obvious metaphorical stories these RPGs include about oppression of and racism against minorities.

You guys just want to twist the definition of woke to suit your retarded "go woke go broke" punchline. Supposedly Sweet Baby Inc is a guarantee for commercial failure, except we have multiple games they consulted on that sold 10m+ copies and are huge financial successes. Then I guess the game must've succeeded in spite of their consultancy, but when the game flops it's 100% because of their input. Catering to minorities by having pronouns and trans character creation options is woke pandering and will cause your game to flop, except when it's Baldur's Gate or Cyberpunk, then it suddenly doesn't count and it's not "woke". How convenient.



Then all the old Dragon Age, Mass Effect and Witcher games are definitely woke. Because they're full of stories and subplots about oppression of minorities.



Lmao, I'm not the one infected with a mind virus, you guys are. You can somehow see Vasquez in Aliens and not see any issue with it (because of nostalgia bias from a time before you got brainwashed) but the moment Gears of War sports a character that is also a butch "one of the boys" female frontline soldier it's suddenly woke propaganda and forcing stuff down people's throats.

If a video game studio made a woman character that looked like this in 2026:
Eu4aWPhUYAInJxT.jpeg


All the grifters would be saying they "uglified" her, made her "look like a man", would make dozens of videos about how she makes the men in the movie look incompetent (since she is one of the last to die in the movie) which is part of the woke agenda and so on.

Hell, they'd probably pull up this pic:

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To make some dumb argument about how pretty the actress is and how these "deranged activists" adjust the actress's look on purpose to make her less attractive (like they're doing with God of War Laufey).

Also fun fact: in the original script for Aliens the female marines were supposed to shower alongside the male marines. Kind of woke don't you think? I thought "men" shouldn't be sharing a bathroom/dressing room with women?
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Again, you don't know what woke means
 
QuantumCringe said:
You are weird
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That's nice but it's true. Woke does not mean what the President of the United States uses it for. That's a new made up definition. Almost as if it's been stolen on purpose.

It's crazy that word is in official White House documents

"Woke"
"Wokist"
"Wokism"

Like what are we doing here.
 
Yrassinad said:
Explain what woke means then.
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Since you don't know yourself I'll enlighten you.

'Woke' is a catchall term that refers to the perceived Social injustice as seen by Marxist Ideologues. Victim hood is used as a club to subjugate and propagate to the public things that would otherwise be unacceptable In a normal functioning society. ESG, DEI, SOGI, Critical Race Theory, Historical Revisionism, Socialism and Intersectional-Feminism (Women who act like men, and by virtue emulate the appearnce of men). These are all things pushed by 'woke' Marxists who are culturally trying to tear down any and every institution to be rebuilt in the name of ''Equity'', a term used by communists to delegate special privileges to percieved ''marginialized'' groups in the name of racial and societal reform.
They are using racism to fight racism, if that sounds completely stupid AF that's because it is. but that is what these people believe and propagate.
 
On Demand said:
If films like The Matrix were released today if would be their stupid definition of woke. Mopheus be black and even worse, The Oracle being a black women.

Trinity being a strong Girl Boss too.
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Exactly. They will twist themselves into a pretzel and argue it wasn't woke because they fail to realize they've been brainwashed at some point in between then and now to view every piece of entertainment through a retarded anti-woke lens where even the presence of a woman or a Black person in a position of authority is enough to set off their alarm bells.

QuantumCringe said:
Again, you don't know what woke means
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Again, explain what it means then.

ĿᐄṾᐄṆↁ3☈ said:
Since you don't know yourself I'll enlighten you.

'Woke' is a catchall term that refers to the perceived Social injustice as seen by Marxist Ideologues. Victim hood is used as a club to subjugate and propagate to the public things that would otherwise be unacceptable In a normal functioning society. ESG, DEI, SOGI, Critical Race Theory, Historical Revisionism, Socialism and Intersectional-Feminism (Women who act like men, and by virtue emulate the appearnce of men). These are all things pushed by 'woke' Marxists who are culturally trying to tear down any and every institution to be rebuilt in the name of ''Equity'', a term used by communists to delegate special privileges to percieved ''marginialized'' groups in the name of racial and societal reform.
They are using racism to fight racism, if that sounds completely stupid AF that's because it is. but that is what these people believe and propagate.
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If that's what it means then all the old games I mentioned are absolutely woke.
 
Vertigo said:
Lack of accountability and handwaiving their failures when fans have been very clear about wtf they don’t like.

and it’s seeing shit like that which leads me to believe shutting them down was the correct move

The cancer spread… BioWare was killed a long time ago. And while I don’t hate anthem (because it could’ve been salvaged when it came out alongside fallout 76 and 76 still lives but EA didn’t have the balls to see it thru)… that was their last game.

Veilguard was eye opening. Glazed by media. Fake reviews. Everything that showed how corrupt and full of shit this industry is. Everyone hated it

I have a buddy who is a die hard BioWare fans since KOTOR first dropped. Has read all of Drew’s books etc. fanboy tier… even he gave up with veilguard

But no… I see too many pink flags blaming trump. He ain’t the boogeyman for everything and that’s not why ea’s BioWare sucked

Their best partner was in fact… Microsoft

The tv show still in production leads me to believe they’re not going to leave mass effect dead. Dragon age has been completely destroyed as an IP but Mass Effect still has a ton of value IMO.

Watch them put respawn on producing the next one after they finish their Star Wars trilogy.
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Excellent post and I couldn't agree more.
Mass effect should be given to a new studio and DA handed to Larian or Owlcat
 
On Demand said:
That's nice but it's true. Woke does not mean what the President of the United States uses it for. That's a new made up definition. Almost as if it's been stolen on purpose.

It's crazy that word is in official White House documents

"Woke"
"Wokist"
"Wokism"

Like what are we doing here.
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Going to erase it like a cancer. Gulags
 
BG3 was not woke and it irks me the "everything is woke" brigade act worse than the wokies themselves.

Don't get me wrong, the pervasive and perverse infection of gaming with one sub-subculture of a societal fad is disgusting and has been a disaster. Even worse, it's ruined variety of storylines because of both sides of the retarded political Olympics, which ironically represent neither side.

Aliens wasn't woke it was bad arse. Likewise Tomb Raider. Scully was brilliant in the X files. Snipes in Blade and Demolition man couldn't be played better by anyone. Denzel Washington in equaliser is not John Wick Netflix remake.

Good things are good because they're good. BG3 allowed a variety of play throughs, it was a good game.
Veilguard was a struggle session skin walking as a Dragon age game. It wasn't good.
 
ĿᐄṾᐄṆↁ3☈ said:
Since you don't know yourself I'll enlighten you.

'Woke' is a catchall term that refers to the perceived Social injustice as seen by Marxist Ideologues. Victim hood is used as a club to subjugate and propagate to the public things that would otherwise be unacceptable In a normal functioning society. ESG, DEI, SOGI, Critical Race Theory, Historical Revisionism, Socialism and Intersectional-Feminism (Women who act like men, and by virtue emulate the appearnce of men). These are all things pushed by 'woke' Marxists who are culturally trying to tear down any and every institution to be rebuilt in the name of ''Equity'', a term used by communists to delegate special privileges to percieved ''marginialized'' groups in the name of racial and societal reform.
They are using racism to fight racism, if that sounds completely stupid AF that's because it is. but that is what these people believe and propagate.
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This is so stupid.
You are twisting liberal ideals, along with Marxism, and adding the word woke to everything.
You realize you can be left and not a Marxist, right?
 
Boswollox said:
BG3 was not woke and it irks me the "everything is woke" brigade act worse than the wokies themselves.

Don't get me wrong, the pervasive and perverse infection of gaming with one sub-subculture of a societal fad is disgusting and has been a disaster. Even worse, it's ruined variety of storylines because of both sides of the retarded political Olympics, which ironically represent neither side.

Aliens wasn't woke it was bad arse. Likewise Tomb Raider. Scully was brilliant in the X files. Snipes in Blade and Demolition man couldn't be played better by anyone. Denzel Washington in equaliser is not John Wick Netflix remake.

Good things are good because they're good. BG3 allowed a variety of play throughs, it was a good game.
Veilguard was a struggle session skin walking as a Dragon age game. It wasn't good.
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Another person who fails to realize that "wokeism" was never the issue because they can enjoy clearly progressive and "woke" media like Aliens and Baldur's Gate 3. By today's standards Aliens is 100% woke. You have a butch "one of the boys" female soldier who puts the men in their place and manages to survive longer than most men in the movie. The lead character is, like the previous movie, a woman who is likewise more competent and brave than many of the men shown in the movie (something which ragebait YouTubers would absolutely lambast any piece of media releasing in 2026 for).

Tell me, how is allowing you to make a woman with a dick in the character creator anything but woke? They had to go out of their way to give you that option, most women do not have dicks and most people wouldn't care if the option wasn't there. Anti-woke retards already lose it when devs change "male/female" to "body type A/B" in character creators because it's "woke". But somehow going one step further than that and allowing you to mix body styles, voice types and genitals is not woke? How is having a game where every fucking character is bisexual not "woke"? Man I consider myself "woke" and that shit even pisses me off, it was a breath of fresh air when Cyberpunk basically told people "no, fuck you, this character is only into men or women, not both".
 
ĿᐄṾᐄṆↁ3☈ said:
Since you don't know yourself I'll enlighten you.

'Woke' is a catchall term that refers to the perceived Social injustice as seen by Marxist Ideologues. Victim hood is used as a club to subjugate and propagate to the public things that would otherwise be unacceptable In a normal functioning society. ESG, DEI, SOGI, Critical Race Theory, Historical Revisionism, Socialism and Intersectional-Feminism (Women who act like men, and by virtue emulate the appearnce of men). These are all things pushed by 'woke' Marxists who are culturally trying to tear down any and every institution to be rebuilt in the name of ''Equity'', a term used by communists to delegate special privileges to percieved ''marginialized'' groups in the name of racial and societal reform.
They are using racism to fight racism, if that sounds completely stupid AF that's because it is. but that is what these people believe and propagate.
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That's not the original meaning either. That's the new bullshit made up definition i was talking about.


www.latimes.com

What does 'woke' mean now? Erykah Badu, who popularized it, clarifies original definition

Grammy winner Erykah Badu says conservatives have misappropriated 'woke' and explains its meaning after popularizing the term on her 2000s song 'Master Teacher.'
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Which goes even further back to the 1960's.

Discriminatory rasist people have created something that doesn't even exist. Those types are getting uncomfortable with the world changing from what they're use to. So they took a term that was already in use from a group that just wanting to progress in America is seen a threat. So that itself because the first "woke" in their world. From then on anything that is seen a changing the white male standard status quo became "woke." Women, gay, black, equality.

It simple terms the original meaning of woke just means not falling for anything and being aware of yourself. Being aware of what's going on. Stay woke from all the nonsense that's going on. Anybody can be woke.

Unfortunately people stuck in the past have now bastardize the term based on identity, gender, and race.
 
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