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This mental illness is woke. It's forced, unnatural, weird.
Woke mind virus. Mentally ill people
And you spend too much time posting slop from your brainrotten right-wing social media feeds, but unfortunately we have to deal with that since you don't take any breaks yourself.
I'm not going to show any respect to racists, misogynists, homophobes, and transphobes because they deserve none. Retard.
You don't need an account on that forum to work in the industry and the reason they want your real identity is so you can't just troll the board and harass people. Dude there is AI now. Do some basic fact checking. You can just write "do you need a resetera account to work in the games industry" and get an answer.
No it isn't, you are giving a random gaming forum way too much power. The only reason media and industry people use that one is because it has somewhat proper moderation. But it has no real influence on what goes on in the industry.
What you guys call "woke" is just basically standard progressive politics. Which as the name implies, is about moving forward. Just because you were maybe on board with abolishing segregation, letting women vote and people being gay but then draw the line at cultural diversity and transgender inclusivity doesn't mean the games changed - it means you changed and were progressive when you were younger but have turned into a conservative.
Just because Mass Effect released prior to the right's appropriation of the term woke doesn't mean it doesn't check all the criteria of what people say when they talk about "woke" games. Like I said, BioWare introduced the first non-heterosexual character in the entire Star Wars IP back in 2003. Their games are filled with same sex relationships. If one of those "golden age" games were to release in 2026 for the first time, it would get absolutely grilled and relentlessly mocked by the same right-wing grifters on YouTube.
This guy worked with BioWare in the mid-2000s, aka before they supposedly went woke. Now he's saying the producer of those games would filter applicants based on their social media activity? So I guess people who said BioWare has always been woke are proven right once again.
Also going through applicants' social media activity is standard fare. Literally every company I've ever worked at does this.
When people say BioWare was always woke they don't mean it always had the same hamfisted writing. They've always been woke but they had better writers in the past who managed to package it up in a way that future conservative snowflakes didn't notice they were actually consuming woke stuff, which is why you now have this thread full of people denying they were woke lol. Just like you have retards talking about how they miss when games "weren't political" and when you ask them about their favorite games it's stuff like Metal Gear Solid and GTA.
Also the guy that tweeted that shit was arrested for aggravated assault with a weapon against his wife - but sure let's lose our collective shit over some shitty writing in a game instead lol.
Yeah, losing your shit each time a game dares to feature a minority is totally natural, unforced and not weird at all.
"Featuring a minority" lmao gtfo with that lame shit
Dude you've gone on countless of unhinged rants about how video game characters weren't hot enough for you to jerk off to. You unironically talk about how you are a "chad heterosexual white male" - if anyone needs psychiatry it's you.
I've asked you twice now. I'll ask a third time, maybe it's the charm.
WHAT DOES WOKE MEAN?
Yes, because the majority of big developers are filled with left-wing people because most people in creative fields are left leaning. And it's the only place where there is half-decent moderation. Where else are they supposed to post? NeoGAF which is full of rampant racism and transphobia and where the admins are deranged Zionists who crack down on any criticism of Israel? This place where we have a lunatic constantly posting antisemitic conspiracies and where 90% of the members are rabid PlayStation fanboys? Trust me, those people don't want to expose themselves to such environments. They already get a taste of it by being on Twitter.
The fact that the "most popular gaming forum" is filled with "wokes" should tell you something about how many people actually have issues with wokeness. You can't on one hand act like almost nobody is woke and hates wokeness but then also say the woke gaming forum is somehow the most popular one out there.
It's all a matter of perspective. Including LGBT characters in shows, movies, games etc is somehow always framed as "shoving stuff down people's throats" - but how is it any different from featuring cis/heterosexual characters in those same things? If you believe the mere featuring of minorities in media is forcing something on people, then the same applies to featuring majorities. Gay people have had heterosexuality "forced down their throats" far more than the other way around.
Look, that Dragon Age Veilguard writing makes even me cringe because it just doesn't feel earned and honest - it feels like they wanted to put a message in there to educate people about transgenderism (nothing wrong with that) but lacked the writing chops to do it in a subtle and effective way (like how many RPGs from Final Fantasy to the Witcher tackle societal issues such as racism, scapegoating and yes - homosexuality and transgenderism - without feeling like it's taking you out of the world). But the response to that should be to just call out the poor writing, not the message behind it, and not to throw a party when the studio behind it collapses (for which stuff like Anthem is a far bigger reason than DA:TV).
Furthermore why is the inclusion of a particular minority group so important in video games? I play games as a form of escapism and entertainment. I do not care about heavy handed political messages pertaining to sexuality. Neither I want to see games with disabled characters, severe mental health issues, etc. In so far as "wokeism" is concerned DA:V was probably one of the worst examples of it in recent times. The cutscenes and writing were pure cringe.
Just because something is the norm doesn't mean it's not forced on people. Racism, slavery and segregation also used to be the norm. And someone from back in those days could also easily argue it was fundamental and the reason why things are the way they are. I mean in case of heterosexuality there's a biological aspect so I won't go as far as say that it being the norm is a result of it being forced on people, but forced heterosexuality is definitely a thing that is real. In countries where homosexuality is less accepted, gay people often end up performing sham heterosexual relations to please society while they pursue their true sexuality underground. We've all seen the countless stories of men who pretend they're hetero, get married and have families, while they sleep with other men in secret.
I think any sort of sexuality shouldn't be taught to children, but I'm talking about prepubescent children here. The moment they start with sex ed and other stuff is the perfect time to also start teaching them about the existence of things outside of heterosexuality. If they're old enough to learn about what happens when you stick a dick into a pussy, they are old enough to learn that some people don't feel at ease in the body they are born into. I don't have children right now but (TMI) my wife and I are trying for them.
As for why inclusivity in video games is important... well, because inclusivity and representation is great. It helps people feel seen and also teaches others about them, which humanizes them. This is not exclusive to transgenders btw. Polish people love how their culture gets represented in stuff like the Witcher, likewise Ghost of Tsushima is like the only modern PlayStation game that actually sold in Japan because of how their culture was represented. I have Syrian friends and they still talk about how happy they were to see Damascus featured in the original Assassin's Creed.
People like seeing themselves and their culture represented in things and there's no reason to exclude people. You can argue you play for escapism, but so can trans and gay people. Do you see them calling for heterosexual characters to be removed from games and saying they're sick of them "getting forced" into games? What about vegans who are constantly asked to hunt and eat animals in games, do you think they also wouldn't like to "escape" from that? In the end you have to wonder why you're looking to "escape" from being confronted with trans and gay people and if you truly think that's normal, why others shouldn't be given the same opportunity to also escape from things you view as normal. Or you can accept that games are not just for you and are trying to address a wider audience, and that the existence of trans/gay characters in a game doesn't mean characters who more closely represent you are deleted.
Racism, sexism, slavery etc are forms of oppression.
Going vegan is a retarded lifestyle choice. We are omnivores. There is a greater risk of micronutrient deficiency and lower lean body mass. But if that's how someone wishes to live their life, by all means go ahead. Just don't remind me every 5 seconds "I'M VEGAN BRAH"
Heterosexuality is not a biological necessity. You can live a full life without being heterosexual, heterosexuality is only needed for reproduction. And even that is not accurate anymore these days. There are now technologies that theoretically allow a gay man to father a child without ever sleeping with a woman who has likewise never slept with a man. Either way I don't find that a reasonable argument to argue why it's ok for heterosexuality to be "pushed" in every piece of media but homosexuality shouldn't.
Also going vegan is not retarded, it's a way to reduce unnecessary animal suffering and reduce the massive environmental impact that animal agriculture has on the planet. There is no risk of deficiencies unless you'd flat out refuse supplements, in which case even people eating omnivore diets will likely end up with deficiencies. There's a reason Nordic governments are giving people free vitamin D supplements. And a lot of food is fortified either way, whether it's vegan or not. Cow milk in the US is fortified just like oat milk is. Lean body mass has far more to do with how active of a lifestyle people life. Very few vegans are going to try lifting weights while eating 50g of protein or some shit, they will adjust their diet just like omnivore athletes do.
Also, there are far more people complaining about how vegans supposedly like to remind everyone that they're vegan than vegans actually doing that. Many non-vegans just don't like being confronted with the fact that there is a way of life different to theirs that is just as viable. Just their existence or the fact that companies/restaurants try to cater to them is enough to set some people off and as a result they start to overinflate how much they're being confronted by it. Just like people do with the representation of minorities in media products.
Plant protein does not contain all of the essential amino acids and many plants and vegetables are afflicted with heavy metals.
Ultimately our body possesses enzymes to break down both animal and plant based food. There is a reason why have evolved biologically as omnivores.
Animal suffering should be minimised but animals are also very tasty. It's a dog eat dog world. This is the way of the world. We eat animals. And animals also eat animals.
This mental illness is woke. It's forced, unnatural, weird.
Woke mind virus. Mentally ill people
And you spend too much time posting slop from your brainrotten right-wing social media feeds, but unfortunately we have to deal with that since you don't take any breaks yourself.
I'm not going to show any respect to racists, misogynists, homophobes, and transphobes because they deserve none. Retard.
You don't need an account on that forum to work in the industry and the reason they want your real identity is so you can't just troll the board and harass people. Dude there is AI now. Do some basic fact checking. You can just write "do you need a resetera account to work in the games industry" and get an answer.
No it isn't, you are giving a random gaming forum way too much power. The only reason media and industry people use that one is because it has somewhat proper moderation. But it has no real influence on what goes on in the industry.
What you guys call "woke" is just basically standard progressive politics. Which as the name implies, is about moving forward. Just because you were maybe on board with abolishing segregation, letting women vote and people being gay but then draw the line at cultural diversity and transgender inclusivity doesn't mean the games changed - it means you changed and were progressive when you were younger but have turned into a conservative.
Just because Mass Effect released prior to the right's appropriation of the term woke doesn't mean it doesn't check all the criteria of what people say when they talk about "woke" games. Like I said, BioWare introduced the first non-heterosexual character in the entire Star Wars IP back in 2003. Their games are filled with same sex relationships. If one of those "golden age" games were to release in 2026 for the first time, it would get absolutely grilled and relentlessly mocked by the same right-wing grifters on YouTube.
This guy worked with BioWare in the mid-2000s, aka before they supposedly went woke. Now he's saying the producer of those games would filter applicants based on their social media activity? So I guess people who said BioWare has always been woke are proven right once again.
Also going through applicants' social media activity is standard fare. Literally every company I've ever worked at does this.
When people say BioWare was always woke they don't mean it always had the same hamfisted writing. They've always been woke but they had better writers in the past who managed to package it up in a way that future conservative snowflakes didn't notice they were actually consuming woke stuff, which is why you now have this thread full of people denying they were woke lol. Just like you have retards talking about how they miss when games "weren't political" and when you ask them about their favorite games it's stuff like Metal Gear Solid and GTA.
Also the guy that tweeted that shit was arrested for aggravated assault with a weapon against his wife - but sure let's lose our collective shit over some shitty writing in a game instead lol.
Yeah, losing your shit each time a game dares to feature a minority is totally natural, unforced and not weird at all.
In addition to go back to school you need a psychologist or a psychiatrist and to stop getting propaganda from the tv.
Again, you don't understand what woke is.
"Featuring a minority" lmao gtfo with that lame shit
Dude you've gone on countless of unhinged rants about how video game characters weren't hot enough for you to jerk off to. You unironically talk about how you are a "chad heterosexual white male" - if anyone needs psychiatry it's you.
I've asked you twice now. I'll ask a third time, maybe it's the charm.
WHAT DOES WOKE MEAN?
Prometheus
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Nope. It's a rabid, hyper woke circle jerk where only agreeableness and conformity is permitted. Unfortunately it is the most popular gaming forum and this is where the majority of the big developers post. Resetera was likely the target audience for Dragon Age Veilguard.
Yes, because the majority of big developers are filled with left-wing people because most people in creative fields are left leaning. And it's the only place where there is half-decent moderation. Where else are they supposed to post? NeoGAF which is full of rampant racism and transphobia and where the admins are deranged Zionists who crack down on any criticism of Israel? This place where we have a lunatic constantly posting antisemitic conspiracies and where 90% of the members are rabid PlayStation fanboys? Trust me, those people don't want to expose themselves to such environments. They already get a taste of it by being on Twitter.
The fact that the "most popular gaming forum" is filled with "wokes" should tell you something about how many people actually have issues with wokeness. You can't on one hand act like almost nobody is woke and hates wokeness but then also say the woke gaming forum is somehow the most popular one out there.
Prometheus
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I try to take a balanced approach myself. I'd consider myself a centrist. I won't treat anyone differently if they're LGBT but let's not pretend that this has not been forced down our throats in the past 15 years. It's no surprise many Western studios have transgender heads. I agree GAF is a racist and Zionist cesspool and Evilore is a massive cunt. I should note the vast majority of the posters at Resetera are not woke, but they have a loud vocal minority and this includes the moderation team.
It's all a matter of perspective. Including LGBT characters in shows, movies, games etc is somehow always framed as "shoving stuff down people's throats" - but how is it any different from featuring cis/heterosexual characters in those same things? If you believe the mere featuring of minorities in media is forcing something on people, then the same applies to featuring majorities. Gay people have had heterosexuality "forced down their throats" far more than the other way around.
Look, that Dragon Age Veilguard writing makes even me cringe because it just doesn't feel earned and honest - it feels like they wanted to put a message in there to educate people about transgenderism (nothing wrong with that) but lacked the writing chops to do it in a subtle and effective way (like how many RPGs from Final Fantasy to the Witcher tackle societal issues such as racism, scapegoating and yes - homosexuality and transgenderism - without feeling like it's taking you out of the world). But the response to that should be to just call out the poor writing, not the message behind it, and not to throw a party when the studio behind it collapses (for which stuff like Anthem is a far bigger reason than DA:TV).
Prometheus
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Heterosexuality is the norm and is the only reason me, you and everyone else exists. Therefore you cannot possibly make the false equivilance that it is being forced upon us. Call me old fashioned but I don't believe LGBT values should be promoted - especially to children. There are incidences of transgender drag queens reading to school children, and pro transgender literature being taught. Fuck that. Do you have children by the way?
Furthermore why is the inclusion of a particular minority group so important in video games? I play games as a form of escapism and entertainment. I do not care about heavy handed political messages pertaining to sexuality. Neither I want to see games with disabled characters, severe mental health issues, etc. In so far as "wokeism" is concerned DA:V was probably one of the worst examples of it in recent times. The cutscenes and writing were pure cringe.
Just because something is the norm doesn't mean it's not forced on people. Racism, slavery and segregation also used to be the norm. And someone from back in those days could also easily argue it was fundamental and the reason why things are the way they are. I mean in case of heterosexuality there's a biological aspect so I won't go as far as say that it being the norm is a result of it being forced on people, but forced heterosexuality is definitely a thing that is real. In countries where homosexuality is less accepted, gay people often end up performing sham heterosexual relations to please society while they pursue their true sexuality underground. We've all seen the countless stories of men who pretend they're hetero, get married and have families, while they sleep with other men in secret.
I think any sort of sexuality shouldn't be taught to children, but I'm talking about prepubescent children here. The moment they start with sex ed and other stuff is the perfect time to also start teaching them about the existence of things outside of heterosexuality. If they're old enough to learn about what happens when you stick a dick into a pussy, they are old enough to learn that some people don't feel at ease in the body they are born into. I don't have children right now but (TMI) my wife and I are trying for them.
As for why inclusivity in video games is important... well, because inclusivity and representation is great. It helps people feel seen and also teaches others about them, which humanizes them. This is not exclusive to transgenders btw. Polish people love how their culture gets represented in stuff like the Witcher, likewise Ghost of Tsushima is like the only modern PlayStation game that actually sold in Japan because of how their culture was represented. I have Syrian friends and they still talk about how happy they were to see Damascus featured in the original Assassin's Creed.
People like seeing themselves and their culture represented in things and there's no reason to exclude people. You can argue you play for escapism, but so can trans and gay people. Do you see them calling for heterosexual characters to be removed from games and saying they're sick of them "getting forced" into games? What about vegans who are constantly asked to hunt and eat animals in games, do you think they also wouldn't like to "escape" from that? In the end you have to wonder why you're looking to "escape" from being confronted with trans and gay people and if you truly think that's normal, why others shouldn't be given the same opportunity to also escape from things you view as normal. Or you can accept that games are not just for you and are trying to address a wider audience, and that the existence of trans/gay characters in a game doesn't mean characters who more closely represent you are deleted.
Prometheus
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Strawman. Heterosexuality is a biological necessity.
Racism, sexism, slavery etc are forms of oppression.
Going vegan is a retarded lifestyle choice. We are omnivores. There is a greater risk of micronutrient deficiency and lower lean body mass. But if that's how someone wishes to live their life, by all means go ahead. Just don't remind me every 5 seconds "I'M VEGAN BRAH"
Heterosexuality is not a biological necessity. You can live a full life without being heterosexual, heterosexuality is only needed for reproduction. And even that is not accurate anymore these days. There are now technologies that theoretically allow a gay man to father a child without ever sleeping with a woman who has likewise never slept with a man. Either way I don't find that a reasonable argument to argue why it's ok for heterosexuality to be "pushed" in every piece of media but homosexuality shouldn't.
Also going vegan is not retarded, it's a way to reduce unnecessary animal suffering and reduce the massive environmental impact that animal agriculture has on the planet. There is no risk of deficiencies unless you'd flat out refuse supplements, in which case even people eating omnivore diets will likely end up with deficiencies. There's a reason Nordic governments are giving people free vitamin D supplements. And a lot of food is fortified either way, whether it's vegan or not. Cow milk in the US is fortified just like oat milk is. Lean body mass has far more to do with how active of a lifestyle people life. Very few vegans are going to try lifting weights while eating 50g of protein or some shit, they will adjust their diet just like omnivore athletes do.
Also, there are far more people complaining about how vegans supposedly like to remind everyone that they're vegan than vegans actually doing that. Many non-vegans just don't like being confronted with the fact that there is a way of life different to theirs that is just as viable. Just their existence or the fact that companies/restaurants try to cater to them is enough to set some people off and as a result they start to overinflate how much they're being confronted by it. Just like people do with the representation of minorities in media products.
Prometheus
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No gay person should ever be allowed to adopt or have a kid.
Plant protein does not contain all of the essential amino acids and many plants and vegetables are afflicted with heavy metals.
Ultimately our body possesses enzymes to break down both animal and plant based food. There is a reason why have evolved biologically as omnivores.
Animal suffering should be minimised but animals are also very tasty. It's a dog eat dog world. This is the way of the world. We eat animals. And animals also eat animals.