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Digital Foundry: PlayStation has an "exclusive of sorts for RDNA5 on handhelds"

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heroeskillrats said:
I didn't say it was a Japanese problem. It shows what games Japanese want are Nintendo exclusives which means Playstation will at best be secondary in Japan, and that's a huge if when their consoles will cost $1000+.
And Nintendo gaining third party support parity is a global problem for Sony.
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Literally no one is saying PS6 handheld will supplant Switch 2 as the top dog in Japan, so what's your point? And Nintendo gaining third party support hasn't even been a problem for PlayStation in Japan. Let alone globally.

heroeskillrats said:
Why did Sony hide PS3 numbers? Why did they hide Vita numbers? Why is Microsoft hiding Xbox Series numbers?
Nintendo didn't hide Wii U numbers though because they're way hungrier than Sony and they always went all in and they want to kill all console competition which is why you're wrong about everything you say. But Sony's consoles will flop and there's nothing Sony can do about it.
They're never gonna subsidize insanely like they did with PS3, they don't want to lose billions again.
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Man you're just straight up delusional. Nintendo doesn't want to kill shit. They want to be attracting brand new customers, ideally from childhood, and hopefully keep them engaged for life, Disney style. They're not trying to steal users away from Xbox, PC and PlayStation. They tried that and failed hard in the past. And they will never succeed at doing it without full third party release parity and a device that can play those games at the same levels of graphical fidelity. Neither of those things are on the table right now.

Also Sony never hid PS3 numbers, wtf are you talking about? They stopped reporting them as an individual item on their earnings reports after the PS4 had already launched. Yes, Sony isn't going to subsidize PS6 hard and it will sell way worse than PS5, just like Switch 2 will sell worse than Switch 1 when all is said and done. That's what happens when component prices drive console prices through the roof and make them luxury goods. But it doesn't matter because they have a 130m+ install base already that's not going anywhere because there's nowhere to go for most people. Next-gen consoles will be too expensive, PC is already too expensive, and Switch 2 will soon cost more than what they paid for their PS5 back in 2020 and will not provide the things that drew them to PS5 in the first place.

heroeskillrats said:
Lying as usual. Some games already outsell the PS version and it'll get way worse obviously.
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"Some". Yeah shit like Dragon Quest and rereleases of games from the 2000s that were never available on Nintendo hardware before. When it comes to new AAA titles, the ones that actually make a lot of money, they're never outselling the PS version.
 
heroeskillrats said:
A lot of PS fans for some reason believes Sony's gonna be ready to throw down with Nintendo. I doubt it. I don't think Sony has that hunger in them anymore to even really compete anymore. If their consoles sell less, they'll just say so be it.
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And you're the one here thinking Nintendo will throw it down with Sony in the high end space. You're just as delusional as the PS fans who think the handheld can compete against the Switch
 
SuperPotato said:
And you're the one here thinking Nintendo will throw it down with Sony in the high end space. You're just as delusional as the PS fans who think the handheld can compete against the Switch
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It's not only logical for Nintendo to do so but they've been outselling Playstation already.
For decades Nintendo has made the biggest exclusives and now has third party support. Sony's not in the same position at all.
Here we could have seen COD NS2 if it was GCK but we're seeing FF Nintendo versions outsell the PS version.
1. [NS2] Nintendo Switch Sports Resort – 64,632 / NEW
2. [NS2] Final Fantasy Resonance – 52,268 / NEW
3. [PS5] Final Fantasy Resonance – 50,452 / NEW
4. [NSW] Final Fantasy Resonance – 30,471 / NEW
5. [PS5] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 – 12,816 / NEW
6. [NSW] Rhythm Heaven Groove – 9,671 / 1,103,098
7. [NS2] One Piece: Grand Gourmet – 5,631 / NEW
8. [NSW] Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream – 4,682 / 1,637,979
9. [NS2] Fire Emblem: Fortune’s Weave – 4,393 / 182,148
10. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 3,682 / 3,054,094
 
heroeskillrats said:
It's not only logical for Nintendo to do so but they've been outselling Playstation already.
For decades Nintendo has made the biggest exclusives and now has third party support. Sony's not in the same position at all.
Here we could have seen COD NS2 if it was GCK but we're seeing FF Nintendo versions outsell the PS version.
1. [NS2] Nintendo Switch Sports Resort – 64,632 / NEW
2. [NS2] Final Fantasy Resonance – 52,268 / NEW
3. [PS5] Final Fantasy Resonance – 50,452 / NEW
4. [NSW] Final Fantasy Resonance – 30,471 / NEW
5. [PS5] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 – 12,816 / NEW
6. [NSW] Rhythm Heaven Groove – 9,671 / 1,103,098
7. [NS2] One Piece: Grand Gourmet – 5,631 / NEW
8. [NSW] Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream – 4,682 / 1,637,979
9. [NS2] Fire Emblem: Fortune’s Weave – 4,393 / 182,148
10. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 3,682 / 3,054,094
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FF, which is also a GKC you fucking moron. Meaning GKC has no bearing on sales whatsoever. Congrats, Switch 2 is outselling PS5 on a HD-2D game that runs just as well on Switch 2 as it does on a $9000 5090 PC by 2k copies.

Now do the same with actual 3D AAA games where the Switch 2 version has to be heavily compromised compared to the PS5/PC version. Oh wait, you can't, because it'll show how the PS5 version massively outsells the Switch 2 version even in Japan.

Also, this is just physical sales and naturally PlayStation will have a higher digital sales ratio. So it's highly likely the PS5 version of FF Resonance still outsold the Switch 2 version based on how little the Switch 2 version is ahead in physical sales.
 
heroeskillrats said:
Sure, which is why it's not selling more. People love true physical. I really don't get why third parties are being so greedy.
They keep undershipping phsical too.
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Lmao, sure. This is going to be a convenient cope argument this entire generation considering pretty much every third party release on Switch 2 is a GKC. It costs way more to release a playable cartridge than a GKC, that's why third parties are not doing it. And why Nintendo is charging $10 more for them. And in many cases the game wouldn't fit on a playable cartridge either way. Most people won't give a fuck if it's GKC.

COD isn't fully on disc for PS5 either, yet it somehow charted. Meanwhile the Switch 2 version is nowhere to be found on your chart. I mean in general people buy COD to play multiplayer, acting like it being on a GKC matters is stupid as fuck.
 
heroeskillrats said:
It's not only logical for Nintendo to do so but they've been outselling Playstation already.
For decades Nintendo has made the biggest exclusives and now has third party support. Sony's not in the same position at all.
Here we could have seen COD NS2 if it was GCK but we're seeing FF Nintendo versions outsell the PS version.
1. [NS2] Nintendo Switch Sports Resort – 64,632 / NEW
2. [NS2] Final Fantasy Resonance – 52,268 / NEW
3. [PS5] Final Fantasy Resonance – 50,452 / NEW
4. [NSW] Final Fantasy Resonance – 30,471 / NEW
5. [PS5] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 – 12,816 / NEW
6. [NSW] Rhythm Heaven Groove – 9,671 / 1,103,098
7. [NS2] One Piece: Grand Gourmet – 5,631 / NEW
8. [NSW] Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream – 4,682 / 1,637,979
9. [NS2] Fire Emblem: Fortune’s Weave – 4,393 / 182,148
10. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 3,682 /
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FF is GKC too. People just don't care about COD on Switch.

You think Nintendo is going to compete in the high end space against the company that booted them out of that segment because they're dominating in a market that doesn't give a shit about graphics?
 
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SuperPotato said:
You think Nintendo is going to compete in the high end space against the company that booted them out of that segment because they're dominating in a market that doesn't give a shit about graphics?
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It'd be easy. AI crisis will cripple PS HW if it continues, Nintendo has too many system sellers.
 
heroeskillrats said:
Whatever happens NS2 will be 2-4 times cheaper.
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It's barely cheaper than PS5, a console that Sony is not likely to decommission if they cannot sell PS6 at mass adoption prices. A console that still runs every third party game much better than a Switch 2 does and actually gets all of them.
 
heroeskillrats said:
Making 3 consoles that doesn't selli isn't a winning formula. Plus Sony probably wants to move away from PS5 because it's jailbroken anyways.
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Which 3 consoles are you talking about?

Switch 2 is now jailbroken too, so I guess Nintendo wants to move away from it by making a high end console, right?
 
SuperPotato said:
Which 3 consoles are you talking about?
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Once sales stagnate for PS6/PS handheld they'll stop selling.
PS5 is jailbroken but Chinese can also hack the JP edition so any language works, buy it for only $350, and then nobody buys a single game which is why sales are up. Sony's losing money every time this happens and as long as they're selling the PS5 JP edition.
Now I think Sony would have stopped making PS5 regardless but the jailbreak only guarantees it.
 
You said 3 consoles that don't sell. Are you seriously including the PS5 in this? 🤣

Funny how you completely ignore the fact that the Switch 2 is jailbroken too and reverse coding is about to begin.

Everything you just said applies to Nintendo too now. Get ready to play 3D Mario and Pokemon natively on PC at 4k/120fps.
 
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heroeskillrats said:
Once sales stagnate for PS6/PS handheld they'll stop selling.
PS5 is jailbroken but Chinese can also hack the JP edition so any language works, buy it for only $350, and then nobody buys a single game which is why sales are up. Sony's losing money every time this happens and as long as they're selling the PS5 JP edition.
Now I think Sony would have stopped making PS5 regardless but the jailbreak only guarantees it.
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Get ready bro, Nintendo is doomed.

Every Switch 2 sale from now on will be due to this and the chinese. Nintendo won't make money anymore because everyone will stop buying games for it.

I think Nintendo should get rid of the Switch 2 as fast as possible and get that high end console out quickly.

Pokemon running natively on PC for free will be glorious. 😁👍
 
SuperPotato said:
According to?

It's funny how you can predict how much the PS6 is going to sell but when you get asked about Switch 2 lifetime sales you need to wait for the next directs.
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Because you can get a rough guide, PS normally always sell above 80m even with a bad gen.

Nintendo track record isnt as consistent. Never has been. But I still think it will sell well, but depends on their price
 
Kokoloko said:
Nintendo track record isnt as consistent. Never has been.
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You only think that way because you ignore handhelds. Then after Nintendo outsell PS you pretend NS1 is handheld only.
Then PS make handheld suddenly it's going to make a difference. PS6 and PS handheld just can't sell like PS used to. It's as simple as that. People don't have 2 grand to spend
 
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