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Again, it's always the fault of the customer that there's layoffs. Never the fault of the people managing the place lmao. And the answer should always be laying off the developers who were following orders, never any repercussions for the people at the top who made the decisions. That's "just the way it is". Except it isn't - we've seen how Nintendo's CEO cut his own salary during a period of bad performance to avoid laying people off.

You have a very funny view of the world. It's like you can correctly recognize the problems and the injustices, but instead of thinking "yeah, this should be changed" - your reaction is "people shouldn't complain about this, this is just how it is". Thank god there are humans in the world who don't think bad shit needs to just be accepted and taken for granted, which is why we at least have some form of rights and liberties in this day and age.
I run a business for a living. And have for the past 7 years. Business is cutthroat and the ones that are generous don't survive, I watched many of my colleagues fall apart after covid because of "generosity" and goodwill. You can voice complaints, sure. But life is not about morals. Life is about surviving and adapting. I don't like hearing about layoffs. I don't like seeing studios I've supported close down. But you have to remember the core reason why we have all of these luxuries to begin with. Because people wanted money. I cannot find it in myself that gamers who happily dance on the grave and bully developers online, actually give a damn about the industry, or care enough to figure out how it works as an industry. 99% of posters are just crack addicts waiting on the next fix, whether it's a game, or something to tear down because of their "morals". Point blank period.

It's a negative loophole that I refuse to partake in.
 
I run a business for a living. And have for the past 5 years. Business is cutthroat and the ones that are generous don't survive. You can voice complaints, sure. But life is not about morals. Life is about surviving and adapting. I don't like hearing about layoffs. I don't like seeing studios I've supported close down. But you have to remember the core reason why we have all of these luxuries to begin with. Because people wanted money. I cannot find it in myself that gamers who happily dance on the grave and bully developers online, actually give a damn about the industry, or care enough to figure out how it works as an industry. 99% of posters are just crack addicts waiting on the next fix. Point blank period. It's a negative loophole that I refuse to partake in.

There's a whole ocean between "being generous" and not trying to nickle and dime your customers and employees for every cent to the point that it starts to become morally questionable. Life is about morals, if it was just about surviving and adapting we would've let disabled and elderly people starve to death. The reason we don't is because it's morally abhorrent.

Also nowhere have I celebrated layoffs or bullied developers. I will celebrate layoffs at the top though, and people running these companies deserve to get bullied. They're earning 100x what their developers earn and are given way too much leniency for failures compared to their employees, that should come with some baggage and downsides.
 
Life is about morals
Then explain to me the capitalistic hellscape that has been contracted for us? Why are C suites making billions? Why is their slave labor? Why are their homeless people? Why is it that we're being nickel and dimed EVERYWHERE even down to the groceries? This is a much larger problem than gaming. I'll be damned if I focus my energy on companies that exist to entertain. That's not nickel and diming, no matter how you spin it because this industry is a luxury. And it doesn't help, that most of the world population is full of uneducated idiots, being swayed by propaganda that polarizes them like sheep.

Look how easy it is for them. Look at the hottest news in even just the gaming landscape and tell me with a straight face that life is about morals.
 
No, there are zero advantages to getting rid of physical for the customer.

Not needing to print outdated discs that leak game stories or jailbreak consoles and having higher revenue which supports the ecosystem of games is good for the consumer

But you’re a manchild brokie bitch that cares more about wasting resources to build a plastic worthless disc that is just getting overwritten by an internet connection anyways than he does about the actual practice of gaming
 
"Get with the times" he says as the company he's dickriding is releasing reissues of vinyl records on a weekly basis.

Because a static vinyl with no significant size restrictions is the same as a dynamic and changing game in the face of a new generation where hundreds of gigs is the norm.

Sure brokie bitch

If Sony made physical owners pay up like Vinyl you’d fucking cry about that because you’re of course a very brokie bitch
 
Youtubers have proved they are just as bad as journalists and worse. They sell out for simple youtube clicks and there videos are always sensationalism.
Clicks are money and they get them by Fanning the flames of the latest outrage train.

But this latest wave is weird, many people that I thought were more or less down to earth have been gleeful about linking everything that happened after the announcement of the physical media from Sony as some sort of retaliation by "gamers".

I mean, go spam the chat, join the bots, but don't try to act like pirating your games is some sort of preservation effort to save the PlayStation library.

Some of them even see Sony trying to limit the damage with patches as a proof that Sony is an evil company... How retarded do they have to be?
 
Then explain to me the capitalistic hellscape that has been contracted for us? Why are C suites making billions? Why is their slave labor? Why are their homeless people? Why is it that we're being nickel and dimed EVERYWHERE even down to the groceries? This is a much larger problem than gaming. I'll be damned if I focus my energy on companies that exist to entertain. That's not nickel and diming, no matter how you spin it because this industry is a luxury. And it doesn't help, that most of the world population is full of uneducated idiots, being swayed by propaganda that polarizes them like sheep.

Look how easy it is for them. Look at the hottest news in even just the gaming landscape and tell me with a straight face that life is about morals.

Because a lot of people lack morals or don't live by the morals they say they believe in. Or because their morals are that it's alright to let people starve and suffer if it means they get to fly around the world on their private jets. A lot of people have "fuck you, I got mine" as their moral compass, especially in the west. Sadly those people are winning and in power, but that just further illustrates how life is about morals.

Also I don't see why you assume that people are only complaining about greed in the video game industry lol. This is a video games forum, naturally the discussion will be focused around that. And you don't need to wait until grocery prices improve before you start complaining about issues in the games industry, you can complain about both at the same time. It's like when those "centrists" (aka right wingers in denial) argue that we shouldn't be talking about transphobia because there are bigger and more pressing issues. Yeah, there are, and we can talk about all of them at the same time.

Not needing to print outdated discs that leak game stories or jailbreak consoles and having higher revenue which supports the ecosystem of games is good for the consumer

But you’re a manchild brokie bitch that cares more about wasting resources to build a plastic worthless disc that is just getting overwritten by an internet connection anyways than he does about the actual practice of gaming

Lmao, imagine saying this retarded shit after we've spent the past months seeing GTA6 get leaked. Literally the first gameplay we ever saw of the game came from leaks. A game that is digital only. When TLOU2 got leaked, it also got leaked through hacks and not physical copies.

The higher revenue thing remains to be seen and hinges entirely on the idea that everyone who's currently buying physical is just going to buy digital at the same price points. Spoiler: many won't, if they did they'd probably have been buying digital all along. And it's also a massive assumption that this increased revenue will somehow fuel content for the consumers and not just increase margins that will benefit shareholders.

Also, I already debunked the brokie shit by showing how much I spent on games this year with receipts. It's funny how you call someone a manchild for expecting better consumer rights when you are a 40-year-old incel who spent weeks crying when Wolverine didn't get the review scores you wanted so you could flaunt them in your internet debates with strangers online.

No I won’t, it’ll be the wrong move.

I won’t pretend to boycott them over it like the brokie physical bitches though

Yeah, I call bullshit. There is no wrong move for Sony in your eyes. Even after this decision you fell back to using used games and GameFly as an argument while debating a PC fanboy. You can't even claim you were against PC ports like most people on this board were, because you defended that shit too (just like I did). And you don't have to tell me you would never boycott Sony, that much is obvious.

Because a static vinyl with no significant size restrictions is the same as a dynamic and changing game in the face of a new generation where hundreds of gigs is the norm.

Sure brokie bitch

If Sony made physical owners pay up like Vinyl you’d fucking cry about that because you’re of course a very brokie bitch

No significant size restrictions on vinyl? Tell me you don't know wtf you're talking about without telling me you don't know wtf you're talking about. Since the late 80s and 90s vinyl albums often have less songs than what was included on the CD version of the same album due to size restrictions. There's only so much you can press onto a record.

And physical owners already paid up for video games, wtf are you talking about man? But they're not gonna pay a $30 premium like your retard ass suggests, when even Nintendo is only charging $10 extra for a cartridge that costs 5x to produce what it costs Sony to produce a BR disc. I pay that $10 premium on all my Nintendo games.

The bulk of the revenue Sony is losing out on from physical sales is from the retailer cut, which will still be there with CIAB games. Now those are actual plastic waste. At least they served a purpose when they were protecting a disc that contains game data that allows you to play games irrespective of the account or your connectivity, but when they're just there to house a scrap of paper that's useless after the code is redeemed I fail to see how it can be anything other than waste. I also pay for vinyl records already and like I said, I showed how I've already spent over $1k on games just this year alone. But sure, keep repeating that I'm a "brokie" because I don't think an inferior digital-only product should cost the same, and often more than what a physical version of the same game costs.
 
Another day, another PC propaganda thread on Resetera.
PC propaganda?

I suggest you debunk all the points he has made. He isn't wrong.

Sony are looking to hire an individual to control "intelligent pricing" of their games. What this means is that certain people will receive only a measly discount for games during sales and others a slightly bigger discount - likely based on metrics such as perceived income and spending habits. Perhaps the base pricing of games will also differ. Further proof this company is intent on the road of perpetual enshittification and fucking over consumers as much as possible.
 
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Another day, another PC propaganda thread on Resetera.

That site is unreadable these days. Sony breathes and somebody makes a post about how they “left” PS because of it. It’s beyond ridiculous. It’s not reflected in the real world either. It’s like how Xbox was going from strength to strength in that shithole of a place yet irl it was crashing.


PC propaganda?

I suggest you debunk all the points he has made. He isn't wrong.

Sony are looking to hire an individual to control "intelligent pricing" of their games. What this means is that certain people will receive only a measly discount for games during sales and others a slightly bigger discount - likely based on metrics such as perceived income and spending habits. Perhaps the base pricing of games will also differ. Further proof this company is intent on the road of perpetual enshittification and fucking over consumers as much as possible.

The fuck are you talking about?

For starters how ironic is that a place like resetera that is all about the little guy and bout the rich paying their fair share all of a sudden when it comes to videogames the poors have to pay the same. LOL

Also PS actually discounts their games because Nintendo sure as fuck doesn’t, that’s much better!

It’s like how PS is called greedy because of price hikes yet everybody is jacking up prices, and PC is actually the worst offender by far. An RTX 5070ti is over 1.3k ahahaha what the fuck man and then they say “because of work” AHAHAHAHAH because of work lmao so insane, how many people would actually need it for work and how come all of them post on resetera lolol

And really what really matters in all this? PS fans, I mean actual fans not PC and Xbots cosplaying, they turned on PS because of the games live service situation, but now you have people turning on PS over shit that hasn’t even happened yet, hell next you will have people saying “oh I moved to PC” because of some patent.

It’s a bunch of performative bullshit.
 
That site is unreadable these days. Sony breathes and somebody makes a post about how they “left” PS because of it. It’s beyond ridiculous. It’s not reflected in the real world either. It’s like how Xbox was going from strength to strength in that shithole of a place yet irl it was crashing.
That's like politics "I'm a lifelong X, now they did A, I hate it for reason [insert rant], so now I will vote Y"... with the trend changing depending on the agenda of those who decided to release the message.

Now, I have yet to see something especially bad Sony has done, they're upfront and the supposed solution some are pushing (all get xboxes) will not help. Not only that but you will have to accept doing business with one of the most sneaky and predatory company in the world... I mean, what do they think GamePass is/was all about? + the ability to transfer physical discs? They think MS is doing this out of the goodness of their heart? Not that it matters, xbox is potentially over by now.
 
PC propaganda?

I suggest you debunk all the points he has made. He isn't wrong.

Sony are looking to hire an individual to control "intelligent pricing" of their games. What this means is that certain people will receive only a measly discount for games during sales and others a slightly bigger discount - likely based on metrics such as perceived income and spending habits. Perhaps the base pricing of games will also differ. Further proof this company is intent on the road of perpetual enshittification and fucking over consumers as much as possible.
Don't buy the games if you don't like the discounted price. I don't. Furthermore the publishers dictate the discounted price just as they do the regular msrp price. I don't know why you are mad at Sony for that.
 
That site is unreadable these days. Sony breathes and somebody makes a post about how they “left” PS because of it. It’s beyond ridiculous. It’s not reflected in the real world either. It’s like how Xbox was going from strength to strength in that shithole of a place yet irl it was crashing.

It's almost like unpopular decisions can upset people and spur them to look elsewhere for their fix lol. I bet you wouldn't have said anything if the post was a disgruntled Xbox user who said they were going to switch to PS in the future.

The fuck are you talking about?

For starters how ironic is that a place like resetera that is all about the little guy and bout the rich paying their fair share all of a sudden when it comes to videogames the poors have to pay the same. LOL

Also PS actually discounts their games because Nintendo sure as fuck doesn’t, that’s much better!

It’s like how PS is called greedy because of price hikes yet everybody is jacking up prices, and PC is actually the worst offender by far. An RTX 5070ti is over 1.3k ahahaha what the fuck man and then they say “because of work” AHAHAHAHAH because of work lmao so insane, how many people would actually need it for work and how come all of them post on resetera lolol

And really what really matters in all this? PS fans, I mean actual fans not PC and Xbots cosplaying, they turned on PS because of the games live service situation, but now you have people turning on PS over shit that hasn’t even happened yet, hell next you will have people saying “oh I moved to PC” because of some patent.

It’s a bunch of performative bullshit.

Poors have to pay the same? Are you trying to spin this dynamic pricing shit as a good thing or something because it'll allow "poor" people to pay less? That's obviously not the goal of dynamic pricing. It's to charge more to impulsive or wealthy customers than before - not to charge struggling customers less. Whereas before they'd discount a game from $70 to $30 or whatever to everyone, now the "poor" person will just get that $30 price as before but other customers will be looking at a $45 price tag for example. Or it could charge a "poor" mega fan of Uncharted $45 for an Uncharted game while the wealthy customer who hasn't shown any interest in the series before gets a $30 price tag. If Sony truly cared about charging people according to their means, they would've implemented regional pricing comparable to Steam's ages ago. But they haven't. And they wouldn't have killed physical games, which created the possibility of gaming through the used market or stuff like libraries.

Also what do you mean it hasn't happened yet? The announcement to kill physical, the chasing of live service games, dynamic pricing and so on have all happened already or are about to happen.

That's like politics "I'm a lifelong X, now they did A, I hate it for reason [insert rant], so now I will vote Y"... with the trend changing depending on the agenda of those who decided to release the message.

Now, I have yet to see something especially bad Sony has done, they're upfront and the supposed solution some are pushing (all get xboxes) will not help. Not only that but you will have to accept doing business with one of the most sneaky and predatory company in the world... I mean, what do they think GamePass is/was all about? + the ability to transfer physical discs? They think MS is doing this out of the goodness of their heart? Not that it matters, xbox is potentially over by now.

Just like politics, that's completely normal. Someone who voted Democrat all their life could've chosen not to vote for them in 2024 due to their complicity in the Gaza genocide. There's nothing "performative" about that. It's them taking note of a change in policy - whether real or perceived (I'd argue Democrats supporting Israel is nothing new, but I guess such voters assumed there would be red lines) and deciding to take their money or in this case vote elsewhere. The argument in that case that Republicans are even worse (as you are doing with Xbox here) doesn't change anything about their feelings or grievances. And they shouldn't feel forced to support things against their principles just because the alternative is even worse. By just mindlessly supporting things because the alternative is worse, you just send the signal that it's ok for them to be shit as long as they make sure they're slightly less shit than the next guy.

I also haven't seen many people unironically push Xbox as the viable solution to PlayStation's actions. Pretty much everyone is talking about going to PC instead.

Don't buy the games if you don't like the discounted price. I don't. Furthermore the publishers dictate the discounted price just as they do the regular msrp price. I don't know why you are mad at Sony for that.

Because dynamic pricing is a feature Sony created and implemented on their store. It's not something third party publishers came up with and applied - because they're not in control of the storefront. One of the first examples of dynamic pricing we saw where there was a huge disparity between customers was on AC Unity, a third party game. Ubisoft doesn't have the power to charge $10 for that game to one user and $20 for another, that's something Sony provided them. Now you can argue publishers choose to opt in to this, and could presumably opt out - and you'd probably be correct. Just like Valve implemented standardized regional pricing for games that publishers can opt out of. But if those third party publishers feel they can make more money by not opting out - they won't. Or if it's something turned on by default like regional pricing on Steam, many of them probably won't even notice it's happening. Either way Sony will always carry some of the blame for implementing dynamic pricing in the first place, even if third parties are also to blame for taking advantage of it.
 
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