Nintendo's FY2026

[heroeskillrats]

No one is going to leave PlayStation for Nintendo over third party games

They are tho

They're saying they want "unique entertainment experiences that only Nintendo can offer", this naturally excludes third party games

They have a hybrid empire. Buy Switch 2 for Ocarina of Time and then people get hooked on third party games on the go, choose how you wanna play. Nobody else has that.

You vastly overestimate how much money there is to be made on Nintendo hardware for third parties.

It grew from nothing to selling a ton. Why? Because there's a difference from Tetris and Cyberpunk 2077 and then COD/RDR2/GTA 6 and getting AAA games day 1 and still having physical. Ironically Sony gave that up because they're retards. PS channels are just reporting weekly damage reports now and when they're being honest they say they're not as hyped for the Playstation brand anymore. It was retarded to give up free marketing and free shills that loves your brand.

Can you not read? Sony has expanded more than Nintendo did in the same time period, and that's with the layoffs accounted for. Layoffs are totally irrelevant if the net number is still higher than before.

You think it matters, bro? This is what I keep telling you. Sony will close down studios and have way more layoffs if PS6 flops.

Yeah except the Switch 2 is also $500 (for now) and not $300. And he's not saying Nintendo is right, he's arguing that console developers should now be finding ways to offer the same level of performance as PS5 for less rather than just continuously raising the performance levels even more. Note how he says they should make a $300 PS5 and not saying they should go back to PS4 Pro levels of performance.

Indirectly he's saying Nintendo was right. And it's a dumb statement because none of Sony's studios could make games for a $300 console. They wouldn't have the talent for that. All their games are made for a big TV and they're used to graphics.

 

[Yrassinad]

They are tho

No they are not. Why the fuck would someone spend $500 to get less and worse versions of games they already have access to? You are the one acting like $1000 consoles will be a bridge too far, but dropping $500 on a device that does things worse than the one you already have is what lots of people are going to be doing?

They have a hybrid empire. Buy Switch 2 for Ocarina of Time and then people get hooked on third party games on the go, choose how you wanna play. Nobody else has that.

I have a Switch 2 since launch and I never bothered to play non-indie third party games on it because I have a PS5 that runs them better and gets more of them. You are talking about people who have zero other gaming devices. People who already have PlayStations are not going to do what you are saying.

It grew from nothing to selling a ton. Why? Because there's a difference from Tetris and Cyberpunk 2077 and then COD/RDR2/GTA 6 and getting AAA games day 1 and still having physical. Ironically Sony gave that up because they're retards. PS channels are just reporting weekly damage reports now and when they're being honest they say they're not as hyped for the Playstation brand anymore. It was retarded to give up free marketing and free shills that loves your brand.

It's not "selling a ton" man.

Let's just compare the Q2 results of PlayStation and Nintendo:

Nintendo: 77% of software sales were first party. They sold 24.5m software units on Switch 2 and 65.7m on Switch 1. Meaning 8m units on Switch 2 and 21.7m on Switch 1 was third party sales, for a total of 29.7m.

PlayStation: 88.2m total software sales on PS4+PS5. First party was 8.2m, so 80m sales in total are third party.

We are comparing 29.7m vs 80m here in a single quarter dude. If you compare it to Switch 2 specifically, it's literally 10x higher on PlayStation lmao.

This is why third parties are not so worried about skipping Nintendo. Nintendo platforms are primarily for Nintendo games. Third parties get the scraps while having to put much more effort into making these games run there than they do on more powerful hardware.

And no, physical won't matter. Even on Nintendo 60.7% of sales are now digital on PlayStation it was 78% this quarter. You really think 22% of sales is such a big deal that people are going to drop the platform to another platform where physical is already down to less than 40% as well?

You think it matters, bro? This is what I keep telling you. Sony will close down studios and have way more layoffs if PS6 flops.

You think that matters, bro? This would matter for a platform where 77% of their sales are from first party titles. Not one where less than 10% is from first party. Nintendo needs their own studios healthy because when you remove Nintendo games from a Nintendo platform, there isn't much left. Meanwhile as you can see, Sony can waste years and millions chasing a live service dragon and get rewarded for it regardless because people buy their platforms for third party games.

Indirectly he's saying Nintendo was right. And it's a dumb statement because none of Sony's studios could make games for a $300 console. They wouldn't have the talent for that. All their games are made for a big TV and they're used to graphics.

He's not saying Nintendo was right either directly or indirectly. Sony chasing graphics has put them in the dominant position they're currently in. If they had stuck to old hardware like Nintendo they'd have given up all their competitive advantages against Nintendo. It's better to be stuck with a more expensive console and more expensive games than to literally not exist anymore because you'd just be a shittier Nintendo.

I also don't understand your point about Sony devs not being able to make games for underpowered hardware. Yeah, no shit. Just like Nintendo devs wouldn't be able to make games that take advantage of all the capabilities that stronger hardware would provide. Their games are only just starting to get sporadic voice acting man, what are we talking about here. This just further illustrates what I've been trying to tell you all this time: these two companies are vastly different, offer vastly different things, and are therefore not directly competing with each other and can coexist.

 

[heroeskillrats]

You are the one acting like $1000 consoles will be a bridge too far

It is. It's one thing to buy a $300-500 console and then spend $500-800. $1000+? Most will never buy it for any reason.
Switch 2 will sell like crazy and Sony's helping.

I have a Switch 2 since launch and I never bothered to play non-indie third party games on it because I have a PS5 that runs them better and gets more of them.

So what? You're a Sony pony.

Let's just compare the Q2 results of PlayStation and Nintendo

Oh why bother. You take data and twist it to form your delusions. Sony has 0 great 1st party IPs and you'll paint it as a strength for example.

And no, physical won't matter. Even on Nintendo 60.7% of sales are now digital

You think FF fans buying Switch 2 and they buy FF7 remake, rebirth, revelation will care first two will be digital even if they bought physical on PS the past? Nah, they'll buy them for less than $20 digital and then maybe buy GCK for Revelation. You can't isolate data and make the dumbest conclusions. Same thing for physical vs digital, a lot of physical gamers buy digital but they dip out if the console goes digital only like people are with PS.

This would matter for a platform where 77% of their sales are from first party titles.

Nintendo has the biggest IPs in the world, it's always gonna sell crazy numbers and third parties should be happy about that because it guarantees their consoles are successful. Sony won't have that advantage with PS6.

Meanwhile as you can see, Sony can waste years and millions chasing a live service dragon and get rewarded for it regardless because people buy their platforms for third party games.

Nah it was dumb. The one that was successful was the one that was being made anyways. Success elsewhere doesn't make the flops successful.

Just like Nintendo devs wouldn't be able to make games that take advantage of all the capabilities that stronger hardware would provide. Their games are only just starting to get sporadic voice acting man, what are we talking about here. This just further illustrates what I've been trying to tell you all this time: these two companies are vastly different, offer vastly different things, and are therefore not directly competing with each other and can coexist.

Just because Nintendo wasn't ready for Wii U and didn't have good marketing doesn't mean they won't be ready for Switch 3 and a potential home console. And Nintendo understands games and tech way better than anyone else does. Nintendo keeps saying they're looking to use cash to gain advantages. A home console would be a bigger investment and it could mean they'd buy whatever company to help support that but they'd be ready for it. Absolutely, if anything because their IPs are so huge now and sell so much it justifies spending more on hardware to gain even bigger advantages. It's like I've said too before that it likely won't just be from Nintendo themselves, it'll be the biggest third parties asking for it and promising to support it which makes it even safer.

 

[Yrassinad]

It is. It's one thing to buy a $300-500 console and then spend $500-800. $1000+? Most will never buy it for any reason.
Switch 2 will sell like crazy and Sony's helping.

You are stupid as fuck if you think people are going to balk at $1000 but drop a casual $500 (before any games, accessories, subscriptions) to play the same games they already had but worse. People are just gonna stick to their PS5s and ride out the AI rampocalypse. The ones with money will get a PS6.

So what? You're a Sony pony.

Or maybe I have some standards and am not interested in going back to 30 FPS and shimmering everywhere after having played on a console since 2020 where everything runs at 60 FPS+ and high resolutions.

Oh why bother. You take data and twist it to form your delusions. Sony has 0 great 1st party IPs and you'll paint it as a strength for example.

Lmao, you're so mad I pulled up the data to put an end to this retarded "third party sells a ton on Nintendo" bullshit.

Also it's bullshit to say Sony has 0 great 1st party IPs. God of War, Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Gran Turismo are all great IPs that sell 10m+ on main releases each time. Most Nintendo IPs aren't doing much better, it's just that obviously Nintendo has a few (3-4) killer ones that really blow most gaming IPs out of the water in terms of unit sales. But most of them have been around since the 80s.

You think FF fans buying Switch 2 and they buy FF7 remake, rebirth, revelation will care first two will be digital even if they bought physical on PS the past? Nah, they'll buy them for less than $20 digital and then maybe buy GCK for Revelation. You can't isolate data and make the dumbest conclusions. Same thing for physical vs digital, a lot of physical gamers buy digital but they dip out if the console goes digital only like people are with PS.

Real FF fans will be on PlayStation. PlayStation had timed exclusivity on the last 3 FF main releases.

You are utterly retarded if you think they're going to buy the third entry on a Switch 2 while they have a PS5. FF being on Switch 2 will maybe attract some new users. Definitely no one who considers themselves an FF fan would've waited all these years for the games to finally hit Nintendo. Remake was out in 2020 man, in the other thread you're arguing people are gonna pirate GTA6 if it's not coming to their platform day 1. Now suddenly people were ok waiting 6 years to play a game?

People who are really anal about physical won't be satisfied with GKC. It's so funny how you always wanna cope away poor physical sales on third party games by saying it's a GKC but now suddenly every FF fan is going to rush out to buy a Switch 2 so they can buy a downgraded version of Revelation on a GKC instead of getting the PS5 version.

Nintendo has the biggest IPs in the world, it's always gonna sell crazy numbers and third parties should be happy about that because it guarantees their consoles are successful. Sony won't have that advantage with PS6.

What good does it do for a third party if a console is successful if most of the revenue is not available to them? Do you think a third party cares if a new console comes to the market, it's called the PlayBox or whatever and it sells 200m units but 95% of game sales on it go to first party titles? It'd be a totally irrelevant platform for them and even shitty ass 35m Xbox Series will be more lucrative for them to pursue.

Literally only 23% of Nintendo's sales go towards third party in the last quarter. A 150m install base where only 23% of revenue is up for grabs is far less interesting than a 100m install base where 90.7% is up for grabs.

Nah it was dumb. The one that was successful was the one that was being made anyways. Success elsewhere doesn't make the flops successful.

I never said any of those games were successful. I'm saying these things that you have painted in your head as major grievances that's gonna make people jump ship from PS to Nintendo don't matter at all in the grand scheme of things. Concord is the biggest bomb in modern game history and it didn't even register on their results.

Just because Nintendo wasn't ready for Wii U and didn't have good marketing doesn't mean they won't be ready for Switch 3 and a potential home console. And Nintendo understands games and tech way better than anyone else does. Nintendo keeps saying they're looking to use cash to gain advantages. A home console would be a bigger investment and it could mean they'd buy whatever company to help support that but they'd be ready for it. Absolutely, if anything because their IPs are so huge now and sell so much it justifies spending more on hardware to gain even bigger advantages. It's like I've said too before that it likely won't just be from Nintendo themselves, it'll be the biggest third parties asking for it and promising to support it which makes it even safer.

You are genuinely stupid as fuck if you think Nintendo will be able to somehow beat PlayStation at the AAA cinematic style game while simultaneously arguing that PlayStation studios would never be able to do a gameplay-first style game like Nintendo devs do. So far Astro Bot is closer to something Nintendo would put out than any Nintendo game is close to what Sony put out. I'm not even saying Nintendo is wrong for that btw, it's just how it is. Almost all of Nintendo's devs are in Japan and naturally there will always be a level of awkwardness when you take their writing and translate it to western languages. I say this as someone who loves JRPGs.

Anyway, Nintendo is never gonna make a home console again. They had an opportunity to make a cheap docked-only Switch and they never did. Instead they made a handheld-only Switch, because that's the core of the product: it's a handheld that you can hook up to a TV.

 

[heroeskillrats]

if you think people are going to balk at $1000

What do you mean, "if," There's never been any console that expensive that was successful.
I've seen Sony fanboys who spent insane amounts of money into the ecosystem that instantly said F that.

What good does it do for a third party if a console is successful if most of the revenue is not available to them?

Okay, they can create the next huge title then. Shouldn't be too hard. Minecraft was created by 1. Gitgud

Concord is the biggest bomb in modern game history and it didn't even register on their results.

Sony instantly pivoted and closed down the studio and have been a lot more careful since and been dodging with certain games so they don't have to announce more flops like Marathon etc.

if you think Nintendo will be able to somehow beat PlayStation at the AAA cinematic style game while simultaneously arguing that PlayStation studios would never be able to do a gameplay-first style game like Nintendo devs do

Nintendo has proven numerous times they're way above the compeitition. Ocarina proves it again.
I think the difference is today if Nintendo were to chase that kind of project they'd want the whole thing to be good enough for everything, potentially movies, obviously merch, cool designs, etc. In the past it was a lot more based on vibes from all companies.

So far Astro Bot is closer to something Nintendo would put out than any Nintendo game is close to what Sony put out. I'm not even saying Nintendo is wrong for that btw, it's just how it is. Almost all of Nintendo's devs are in Japan and naturally there will always be a level of awkwardness when you take their writing and translate it to western languages. I say this as someone who loves JRPGs.

Easy problem to solve when you got tons of money though.

 

[Raonak]

Switch 2 sales dropped quite a lot after the price hikes, down 37% across Q1 and 2.

Wonder if OOT will be a system seller or not. The 7 million Q3 sales seem hard to reach even with it.

 

[Yrassinad]

What do you mean, "if," There's never been any console that expensive that was successful.
I've seen Sony fanboys who spent insane amounts of money into the ecosystem that instantly said F that.

There's never been a console that expensive that wasn't successful either because we've never really had expensive consoles period outside of the PS3. We are in uncharted territory. Everyone knows these prices are due to AI and it's not limited to gaming hardware. Everything has gotten more expensive. We see people are still going out to pay $500 for a Switch 2, or $600 for a PS5. The $900 PS5 Pro is sold out everywhere and now retailers are listing them for $1400+ scalper prices. When PS5 launched and was not readily available for 2 full years, many people paid scalper prices of $1000 for it.

For me personally the only reason I'm not jumping on this thing is because they want to kill physical. If it supported discs like the PS4/PS5 did, I'd have happily paid $1000 or more for it. I use my console way more than I use my phone, which also cost me $1200.

Okay, they can create the next huge title then. Shouldn't be too hard. Minecraft was created by 1. Gitgud

Or they can just keep prioritizing platforms where there's actually money to be made for them. Sounds a lot easier than trying to make the next Minecraft.

Sony instantly pivoted and closed down the studio and have been a lot more careful since and been dodging with certain games so they don't have to announce more flops like Marathon etc.

They're still doing live service shit even post-Concord and them allegedly learning a lesson from the whole fiasco to avoid a second Concord situation doesn't mean that Concord bombing even registered on their financial results. Obviously if they do 5 Concords in a row it might start to affect their financials, but a flop here and there doesn't.

This year all their games underperformed financially, and again they are having better results than before. Undeserved maybe, but that's just the privilege they have of being seen as the default console platform for the industry by publishers and consumers alike.

Nintendo has proven numerous times they're way above the compeitition. Ocarina proves it again.
I think the difference is today if Nintendo were to chase that kind of project they'd want the whole thing to be good enough for everything, potentially movies, obviously merch, cool designs, etc. In the past it was a lot more based on vibes from all companies.

How does a remake of a 90s game prove they're way above the competition? Back when Ocarina was new it didn't even move the needle. Nintendo got outsold 3:1 by Sony on their first attempt at making a console lol. It's a great game, but assuming that just because Nintendo makes great games they can pivot to making Sony-style AAA cinematic games as long as they have the hardware power is stupid as fuck. Getting good at making those type of games doesn't happen overnight. Naughty Dog didn't go straight from Crash Bandicoot to The Last of Us, it took them over a decade to get there.

Naughty Dog made Uncharted 1-3 and TLOU1 on PS3 hardware. Nintendo has had access to that level of hardware power for years now, and they've never made one of those games with it. Because they can't or because they think it's not worth the cost it would take.

Nintendo has no legacy or experience in doing that type of game. Like I said, they're only just now starting to use voice acting more and it's not particularly good.

Easy problem to solve when you got tons of money though.

Sony has more money than Nintendo. If Nintendo can somehow spend their way to being able to do Sony style AAA cinematic games, Sony can do the inverse as well.

Switch 2 sales dropped quite a lot after the price hikes, down 37% across Q1 and 2.

Wonder if OOT will be a system seller or not. The 7 million Q3 sales seem hard to reach even with it.

OOT will definitely be a system seller. It probably already is. It's a Zelda game and it's a perfect game for nostalgic old heads and newer gamers alike.

 

[heroeskillrats]

We are in uncharted territory.

For Sony. For Nintendo $500 is normal, they've done that before, which makes it all the more strange you think Sony has a chance at all.

Everyone knows these prices are due to AI and it's not limited to gaming hardware. Everything has gotten more expensive.

It's not the only reason. Sony always price hiked PS+, the reason why they're killing physical is out of greed, the reason why they want to raise game prices again is out of greed etc.

They're still doing live service shit even post-Concord and them allegedly learning a lesson from the whole fiasco to avoid a second Concord situation doesn't mean that Concord bombing even registered on their financial results.

HD2 launched the same time and became a huge success, a game they would have made without the GAAS chase anyways.

How does a remake of a 90s game prove they're way above the competition?

Nobody else can make games like this. Sony, Rockstar, Santa Monica. Nobody.

Back when Ocarina was new it didn't even move the needle.

OOT OG was so GOAT it still made people upset decades later like the way the remake is. People went from there's no way it should win GOTY to oh shit it's obviously gonna win GOTY so they started saying remakes shouldn't win and then they're posting shitty remakes that came out this year like anyone ever said those games should win lol. When a game is so good it actually makes the people who talk about awards angry you know it's better than anything else.

It's a great game, but assuming that just because Nintendo makes great games they can pivot to making Sony-style AAA cinematic games as long as they have the hardware power is stupid as fuck

Bro, they made Splatoon. It's a seriously crazy IP that nobody believed in, people said Nintendo couldn't make a new multiplayer IP, let alone a shooter. But if they did it they'd probably do it with Retro and just do some collaboration. A lot of American developers already made lots of shooters.

Nintendo has no legacy or experience in doing that type of game. Like I said, they're only just now starting to use voice acting more and it's not particularly good.

Yes it is, just use Japanese.

 

[Yrassinad]

For Sony. For Nintendo $500 is normal, they've done that before, which makes it all the more strange you think Sony has a chance at all.

$500 absolutely isn't normal for Nintendo. It's the highest price they've ever charged for a console unless you want to argue adjusted for inflation, but in that case a $1000+ PS console isn't going to be news either and that console sold almost 90m units by the end while having to deal with Xbox at its most competitive.

It's not the only reason. Sony always price hiked PS+, the reason why they're killing physical is out of greed, the reason why they want to raise game prices again is out of greed etc.

PS+ is optional. And it's funny how you're talking about raising game prices out of greed when so far Nintendo is the only one charging $80 for first party games. Something PlayStation has never done and Xbox quickly backtracked after they announced it.

HD2 launched the same time and became a huge success, a game they would have made without the GAAS chase anyways.

What? HD2 was part of the "GAAS chase". Also these games launched in different quarters, so no Helldivers 2 launching wouldn't have masked Concord flopping. But even if it did, this just further proves my point. Sony can afford flops because there's always something either they themselves or a third party is releasing that will negate the damage and then some.

Nobody else can make games like this. Sony, Rockstar, Santa Monica. Nobody.

This is cope man. It's a great game and it looks great but it's not on par graphically with what we've had access to for the last 6 years and saying Rockstar can't make games like this is peak retardation. GTA6 is way more ambitious than this game (and it should be, considering there are almost 30 years between them). OOT is legendary and now that it no longer looks like dated as hell, the gameplay has aged very well and is perfect for nostalgia and newcomers alike. But unironically arguing no one can make games like this in 2026 is stupid as fuck. People could absolutely make something like this, but it wouldn't be received in the same manner. What makes OOT impressive is not that that no one could make something like it, it's that it's the first one to do something like it. Now if you used TOTK as an example, I'd be more inclined to agree there.

OOT OG was so GOAT it still made people upset decades later like the way the remake is. People went from there's no way it should win GOTY to oh shit it's obviously gonna win GOTY so they started saying remakes shouldn't win and then they're posting shitty remakes that came out this year like anyone ever said those games should win lol. When a game is so good it actually makes the people who talk about awards angry you know it's better than anything else.

Who did it make upset? People have always praised the game and as a PlayStation kid (like most people back then), it was one of the few games on N64 that I wish were available on PS1. Not enough to actually get a N64 for though, and clearly most people made the same calculation. But literally no one was angry at this game and have always shown it respect (other than a few retards on this board).

Also literally no one is expecting OOT to beat GTA6 for GOTY except you. The only one actually getting mad about games for awards is you, you're projecting.

You got triggered when they gave this remake a 96 instead of the 99 you expected it to get (even though most remakes score lower than the original and OG OOT's review score is already inflated). The moment it became clear GTA6 wasn't coming to Switch 2 you immediately went to downplaying it and saying "looks like just another GTA game" (so... looks like another 95+ MC game that's gonna sell dozens of millions you are saying?). You even got triggered by the Star Wars Galactic Racer reviews because it has a high score than Mario Kart World (and as someone who has played both, it's 100% deserved).

Bro, they made Splatoon. It's a seriously crazy IP that nobody believed in, people said Nintendo couldn't make a new multiplayer IP, let alone a shooter. But if they did it they'd probably do it with Retro and just do some collaboration. A lot of American developers already made lots of shooters.

I say assuming Nintendo can just make Sony-style AAA cinematic games is stupid, and you respond with "Splatoon"? Are you fucking serious right now . Splatoon is fun and all but it's less popular than Horizon and it doesn't even register in the top 20 of most popular multiplayer games. It's successful, I'm not saying it's not. But you are seriously overhyping how successful it actually is. It's also not really a global success, a lot of its popularity is coming from Japan which makes up like 2/3rds of the sales for Splatoon 3.

Yes it is, just use Japanese.

It's anime-style voice acting. Serviceable but not great. And arguing people should swap to a language they don't even understand is a cope excuse. I don't have to put Sony or third party games on Japanese to mask how mediocre the voice acting is (minus a few exceptions here from games also made in Japan like the Yakuza series).

 

[heroeskillrats]

It's a great game and it looks great but it's not on par graphically with what we've had access to for the last 6 years

lol. It looks better than anything else, including GTA 6.

and saying Rockstar can't make games like this is peak retardation. GTA6 is way more ambitious than this game

OOT was made in 1998 and Rockstar still can't compete with that. While I'm in the camp that indies can't compete with AAA games I say that purely because real indies are just amateurs are low-skilled pros with overinflated egos. BOTW/TOTK proves Nintendo does it better than Rockstar and I don't think GTA 6 will be any different. We already know a ton cuz of cyberleek.

But unironically arguing no one can make games like this in 2026 is stupid as fuck. People could absolutely make something like this, but it wouldn't be received in the same manner. What makes OOT impressive is not that that no one could make something like it, it's that it's the first one to do something like it.

I don't think anyone could. GTA 3 came out a few years later and linear games started "dying." What seem so simple really isn't, the art of making linear games isn't gonna be mastered by live service slop companies. I don't even think Rockstar has mastered open world yet, let alone linear games. And I mean in general, it doesn't have to be a Zelda type game. I'd love to see fantasy or sci-fi from Rockstar though, linear or open world, whatever. Make the next GTA fantasy or sci-fi, I don't care. I sure as hell don't wanna see the same 3 cities again.

But literally no one was angry at this game and have always shown it respect

Unless everyone kneels and says it's a 10/10 then we ain't going nowhere. But that's also what makes people upset though and why some young grifters thinks anyone cares what they have to say like we haven't seen the same retarded takes for 3 decades already.
"ooooh I'm SCARED to post my Ocarina of Time review " And it's a Sony pony or Rockstar pony or grifter account.
It's actually pretty rare nowadays. I still think OG TLOU was 10/10 but it was ruined later by demake and terrible story and characters in TLOU 2. Most people can't admit those things.

Also literally no one is expecting OOT to beat GTA6 for GOTY except you

Right, that's why they all went from "Ocarina won't win" to "REMAKES SHOULD BE BANNED!" and they post about Ocarina and... Black Flag and that anime game like anyone gives a shit about the latter two.

The moment it became clear GTA6 wasn't coming to Switch 2 you immediately went to downplaying it and saying "looks like just another GTA game"

No, a certain someone leaked tons of videos and it's clear why Rockstar haven't shared much. It's nothing new.

And arguing people should swap to a language they don't even understand is a cope excuse.

It's a Japanese game, you'd just be playing it the way it was intended.

 

[Yrassinad]

lol. It looks better than anything else, including GTA 6.

Oh. My. God. You cannot actually be serious right now? You reach new levels of delusion with every passing day man. It doesn't even look better than TLOU Part 2 (6-year-old game), let alone GTA6.

OOT was made in 1998 and Rockstar still can't compete with that. While I'm in the camp that indies can't compete with AAA games I say that purely because real indies are just amateurs are low-skilled pros with overinflated egos. BOTW/TOTK proves Nintendo does it better than Rockstar and I don't think GTA 6 will be any different. We already know a ton cuz of cyberleek.

Lay down the copium pipe man. Rockstar made GTA3 in 2001, a game that sold more than twice as many copies as OOT sitting at a 97 on MC with 2x as many reviews as the original OOT. GTA5 alone has outsold the entire Zelda franchise, hell even if they put out another BOTW+TOTK right now that sell the same GTA5 would still be ahead of the entire Zelda franchise by itself lmao.

You don't know shit because of cyberleek, he just showed a few random ass clips. I can also take a 2 minute clip of OOT Remake just of riding around Hyrule Field on Epona and make it look boring and one dimensional.

I don't think anyone could. GTA 3 came out a few years later and linear games started "dying." What seem so simple really isn't, the art of making linear games isn't gonna be mastered by live service slop companies. I don't even think Rockstar has mastered open world yet, let alone linear games. And I mean in general, it doesn't have to be a Zelda type game. I'd love to see fantasy or sci-fi from Rockstar though, linear or open world, whatever. Make the next GTA fantasy or sci-fi, I don't care. I sure as hell don't wanna see the same 3 cities again.

What are you even talking about man? There have been ton of banger and GOATed tier linear games post GTA3.

Saying Rockstar hasn't mastered open world is a fucking joke. RDR1 preceded BOTW by 7 years.

Aonuma-san literally said the TOTK team was inspired by Red Dead Redemption 2:

Breath of the Wild Sequel Team Drew Inspiration From Red Dead Redemption 2 - E3 2019 - IGN

The younger members of the team working on the Breath of the Wild sequel have notably been inspired by Red Dead Redemption 2.

www.ign.com

In the same interview he said the producer for BOTW was inspired by Skyrim. Acting like Nintendo pioneered and dominated the open world genre is laughable.

You are obviously just trying to downplay Rockstar because they're skipping Switch 2 and will snag GOTY from the OOT Remake.

Also why do you want GTA to pivot away from their 3 main cities and go fantasy or sci-fi but you're ok with Zelda repackaging and retelling the same story about Link, Zelda and Ganondorf over and over again while never leaving a fantasy setting?

Unless everyone kneels and says it's a 10/10 then we ain't going nowhere. But that's also what makes people upset though and why some young grifters thinks anyone cares what they have to say like we haven't seen the same retarded takes for 3 decades already.
"ooooh I'm SCARED to post my Ocarina of Time review " And it's a Sony pony or Rockstar pony or grifter account.
It's actually pretty rare nowadays. I still think OG TLOU was 10/10 but it was ruined later by demake and terrible story and characters in TLOU 2. Most people can't admit those things.

People have been calling it a 10/10 all the time. And I haven't heard anyone say they are scared to post their review, but it's perfectly possible that someone plays this game and walks away from it underwhelmed. Either because it's been glazed so much they went in with too high expectations, or because they're comparing it to modern Zelda games, or because it's just not their genre/cup of tea in general. It's not gonna be a 10/10 for everyone and that's normal. No game is.

Right, that's why they all went from "Ocarina won't win" to "REMAKES SHOULD BE BANNED!" and they post about Ocarina and... Black Flag and that anime game like anyone gives a shit about the latter two

What are you on about? The "remakes shouldn't win GOTY" discussion kicked off years ago when they nominated RE4 Remake which was mostly a game resting a LOT on the laurels of the OG unlike say RE2 Remake or FF7 Remake which basically remade the games from scratch. Just like the "DLC shouldn't win/be nominated for GOTY" discussion kicked off with Shadow of the Erdtree.

It's not some sort of preemptive damage control against the OOT Remake specifically. Especially because it is super unlikely to win against GTA6 anyway.

No, a certain someone leaked tons of videos and it's clear why Rockstar haven't shared much. It's nothing new.

Saying this while you're spending your week glazing the shit out of a 1998 game is ironic as fuck. Guess what is also "nothing new"?

It's a Japanese game, you'd just be playing it the way it was intended.

Plenty of Japanese games get proper English voice acting because they hire theater actors instead of anime dubbers and also have much more intriguing writing.

 

[heroeskillrats]

There have been ton of banger and GOATed tier linear games post GTA3

lol. VC and SA were fine for their day but come on. Since GTA 4 I've hated all their games honestly

In the same interview he said the producer for BOTW was inspired by Skyrim.

So what? It's just acknowledging that stealing from Skyrim made more sense than GTA.

Acting like Nintendo pioneered and dominated the open world genre is laughable.

Yes, they made the two best ones and they're so good they've been ruining other open world games.

Also why do you want GTA to pivot away from their 3 main cities and go fantasy or sci-fi but you're ok with Zelda repackaging and retelling the same story about Link, Zelda and Ganondorf over and over again while never leaving a fantasy setting?

You can do anything with Zelda. It says a lot I'm way more excited for what CD Project Red got cooking with Cyberpunk 2 and it's entirely because of CP2077 and the fact it's the cyberpunk genre, you can seriously just do more things. Same reason why Rockstar should move away from doing boring real life stuff

What are you on about? The "remakes shouldn't win GOTY" discussion kicked off years ago when they nominated RE4 Remake which was mostly a game resting a LOT on the laurels of the OG unlike say RE2 Remake or FF7 Remake which basically remade the games from scratch

lol they always knew these games would never win and it was never a serious discussion.

 

[Yrassinad]

lol. VC and SA were fine for their day but come on. Since GTA 4 I've hated all their games honestly

Alright and what's your point? You can also find people who would say the exact same about Zelda. Doesn't mean it's the mainstream opinion. Mainstream opinion is that GTA games since GTA3 are all bangers and industry-leading at the time they released. There's a reason everyone gave up trying to make GTA clones like they did back in the 2000s. There's no way the comparison ever ends up flattering for the copycat.

So what? It's just acknowledging that stealing from Skyrim made more sense than GTA.

Ok, and as usual you are ignoring the elephant in the room which is him admitting they were inspired by RDR2, a Rockstar game, for TOTK. Right after you spent a bunch of comments shittalking and downplaying Rockstar.

Yes, they made the two best ones and they're so good they've been ruining other open world games.

This is super subjective and highly debatable. BOTW/TOTK are not the unanimously agreed best open world games. It's definitely one that a lot of people will name if you ask them about the best open world game ever made, but plenty of people are going to bring up one of the RDRs, GTAs, Elden Ring or even other stuff.

You can do anything with Zelda. It says a lot I'm way more excited for what CD Project Red got cooking with Cyberpunk 2 and it's entirely because of CP2077 and the fact it's the cyberpunk genre, you can seriously just do more things. Same reason why Rockstar should move away from doing boring real life stuff

The real reason you're more excited about CDPR and CP2 is because they put CP2077 on Switch 2 and you hope/assume that means the sequel is coming to Nintendo hardware too. Especially since CDPR have also ported Witcher 3 to Switch. And deep down you know GTA6 is never coming to Switch 2.

"You can do anything with Zelda" but they keep making fantasy settings and revisiting a lot of the same story threads and characters each time. It's crazy that you can go look at GTA, which always changes the setting, time period and characters and have vastly different stories (San Andreas' story is nothing like GTA4's for example) and label it as "all the same and they should go cyberpunk" and handwave how Zelda has done the whole "you are the chosen hero who has to seal Ganondorf with the help of a princess" multiple times with a different coat of paint.

lol they always knew these games would never win and it was never a serious discussion.

With Shadow of the Erdtree it wasn't so sure. It was a 94 MC DLC and somehow it got nominated, which implied the jury was treating it like a standalone game. And the base game won GOTY just 2 years earlier.

With RE4R the only reason people knew it wasn't going to win was because there was a clear favorite in BG3. Remove that one from the equation and it would've been much less of a guarantee that it wouldn't win. Also it wasn't just about people coping that these games shouldn't win. Many are arguing they shouldn't even be nominated in the first place if they're (near) 1:1 remakes. Also, it's not like OOT is going to win against GTA6 either so there's nothing different here.

 

[SuperPotato]

The Nintendo fanboy is right. Why should I buy a PS6 for 1k and continue to play my library there, if I could just sell my PS5 Pro today and buy a dockable hybrid gameboy for 500€?

 

[heroeskillrats]

This is super subjective and highly debatable. BOTW/TOTK are not the unanimously agreed best open world games.

I'll admit that on a technical level Rockstar is the closest but not on a "gameplay level." Meaning their mission structure is ass.
CD project once again has the cyberpunk edge and it's a big one. We know Bethesda is never in a million years gonna do it with Sentinal, I'd be surprised if it becomes a Skyrim 2. Mid but sells like crazy. Fromsoft is way, way, way overblown. Both on a tech level and a gameplay level. One reason why I want Rockstar to go sci-fi is so they can finally go crazy and do more things.

The real reason you're more excited about CDPR and CP2 is because they put CP2077 on Switch 2

I played the original on PC but not the expansion, I liked the game enough so I bought it on NS2. It's also a company that always treats their fans way too good honestly so I expect full upgrade on Switch 3
Like always you're wrong. It's just objective. Rockstar right now is limited by the boring cities.

"You can do anything with Zelda" but they keep making fantasy settings and revisiting a lot of the same story threads and characters each time. It's crazy that you can go look at GTA, which always changes the setting, time period and characters and have vastly different stories (San Andreas' story is nothing like GTA4's for example) and label it as "all the same and they should go cyberpunk" and handwave how Zelda has done the whole "you are the chosen hero who has to seal Ganondorf with the help of a princess" multiple times with a different coat of paint.

It's true though. It's also a direct quote from some Zelda boss and he's right. With fantasy or sci-fi you can do whatever. .

With Shadow of the Erdtree it wasn't so sure. It was a 94 MC DLC and somehow it got nominated, which implied the jury was treating it like a standalone game. And the base game won GOTY just 2 years earlier.

TOTK didn't win and it came out years later so critics tend to just nominate but never intend to vote on shit like that.
OOT is the obvious winner but even if they did hand it the GOTY that means MM would never win even in a weak year. Critics have been insanely anti-Nintendo lately and come up with the most retarded lies I've ever seen.

Also it wasn't just about people coping that these games shouldn't win. Many are arguing they shouldn't even be nominated in the first place if they're (near) 1:1 remakes.

They're coping on so many levels I'd need to write a book about it. Chapter 1: There's only one Ocarina.
The whole chapter would be that OOT was the peak of gaming entire and it's always the one mentioned and because of its perfection it created its own seperate Ocarina of Time Delusion Syndrome where people have to pretend it's not perfect and they obviously give it 8, 9, 9,9, so they can pretend it's not 10/10. So because there's only ONE game that can win against everything else no matter what year you drop it this causes insane butthurtness from all parties. E33 retards reviewbombing it, Sony ponies, Rockstar drones. It's such a unique game because you can indirectly tell it's GOAT by how severly angry it makes the haters
I've seen all of their excuses and none of them are valid. It just boils down to "Old best yes but let's hand the award to new mid game."
Which doesn't even go into all of their insane downplaying

 

[Yrassinad]

I'll admit that on a technical level Rockstar is the closest but not on a "gameplay level." Meaning their mission structure is ass.
CD project once again has the cyberpunk edge and it's a big one. We know Bethesda is never in a million years gonna do it with Sentinal, I'd be surprised if it becomes a Skyrim 2. Mid but sells like crazy. Fromsoft is way, way, way overblown. Both on a tech level and a gameplay level. One reason why I want Rockstar to go sci-fi is so they can finally go crazy and do more things.

"Mission structure is ass" lol ok. This is just the NakeyJakey take that went viral. I don't necessarily disagree but the reason their missions work like that is so they can create a cinematic experience despite you playing an open world game where you normally have tons of freedom. They're not trying to be a Bethesda game and thank god they're not.

But there is tons of shit to do in Rockstar games outside of the missions. They don't need to give you total freedom in the missions because you already have it in 90% of the rest of the game. The missions are basically a curated experience in an otherwise open and complete freedom experience. The plus side of that is that they can create meaningful cinematic set pieces and interesting story beats. If they pull a BOTW where you can just bum rush the final boss in the game the moment you leave the tutorial sectrion, it's hard to have anything more than a basic/serviceable story (like Zelda stories) because you need to establish the bad guy from hour 1 and can't have any meaningful twists or developments.

Their games are all about creating a sense of immersion and they absolutely nail it. I will never argue that Rockstar are gameplay kings, as in you could strip everything out but the gameplay and still have it stand up. But that's not how games work anyway. Every game is a sum of its parts, very few games would survive having one or multiple elements stripped away.

Rockstar going sci-fi sounds like a bad idea. Their expertise is recreating American cities and settings with intriguing stories and characters that also parody American life and society.

I played the original on PC but not the expansion, I liked the game enough so I bought it on NS2. It's also a company that always treats their fans way too good honestly so I expect full upgrade on Switch 3
Like always you're wrong. It's just objective. Rockstar right now is limited by the boring cities.

Boring cities my ass, I personally found the cities in GTA more interesting than Night City in CP2077. Night City looks great but it doesn't really feel alive like Rockstar's cities do.

It's true though. It's also a direct quote from some Zelda boss and he's right. With fantasy or sci-fi you can do whatever. .

You can do whatever with any setting. Never once did I play a Rockstar game and felt "wow, this is great but they're really being held back by the setting". The setting is what makes these games so strong in the first place lol. How many other games give you a fully playable American wild west setting? Or a Miami Vice-style 80s city? Or a 90s LA with gang violence and police corruption?

Their takes on a modern/contemporary city are infinitely more interesting than the bulk of sci-fi and fantasy settings out there.

TOTK didn't win and it came out years later so critics tend to just nominate but never intend to vote on shit like that.
OOT is the obvious winner but even if they did hand it the GOTY that means MM would never win even in a weak year. Critics have been insanely anti-Nintendo lately and come up with the most retarded lies I've ever seen.

What does TOTK have to do with Shadow of the Erdtree? They didn't even release in the same year, one was in 2023 and the other in 2024.

OOT is not the obvious winner, wtf are you talking about lol. Arguing there is any "obvious winner" besides GTA in a year where GTA drops is insane. Especially when the game you're arguing in favor of is a 1:1 remake where obviously the value of these awards becomes muddied because if a remake of a previous GOTY can just win GOTY again, what is the point? Hell, even GoW2018 beating RDR2 was pretty shocking to most people and something that a few people have since went back on and said was the wrong choice.

Critics aren't anti-Nintendo, they're just not delusional Nintendo fanboys like you are and understand there is plenty of great shit being made outside of Nintendo too. Especially when the other stuff being released is a new GTA of all things.

They're coping on so many levels I'd need to write a book about it. Chapter 1: There's only one Ocarina.
The whole chapter would be that OOT was the peak of gaming entire and it's always the one mentioned and because of its perfection it created its own seperate Ocarina of Time Delusion Syndrome where people have to pretend it's not perfect and they obviously give it 8, 9, 9,9, so they can pretend it's not 10/10. So because there's only ONE game that can win against everything else no matter what year you drop it this causes insane butthurtness from all parties. E33 retards reviewbombing it, Sony ponies, Rockstar drones. It's such a unique game because you can indirectly tell it's GOAT by how severly angry it makes the haters
I've seen all of their excuses and none of them are valid. It just boils down to "Old best yes but let's hand the award to new mid game."
Which doesn't even go into all of their insane downplaying

Dude do you understand there is something called subjectivity? There is no such thing as an objective 10/10 game, least of all an objective greatest game of all time. Ocarina of Time is not an all-encompassing game that transcends all genres and preferences. No game is.

It's also a game that's nearly 30 years old at this point. Arguing that this industry has still not managed to produce anything on the same level or better than a game made 30 years ago that was limited by the hardware of the time is stupid as fuck. You understand you're also insulting Nintendo this way? You basically are saying Nintendo peaked in the late 90s and since then they've never managed to produce anything of the sorts again. It's a retarded statement.

And like I said, the debate around nominating and awarding 1:1 remakes started back in 2023 when they nominated RE4 Remake. You want to cope and make it look like this debate is specifically targeted at OOT so you have a ready-made excuse for when it loses to GTA6, but it's just completely detached from reality.

Saying the arguments boil down to "let's hand the award to new mid game" in relation to a new fucking GTA, a series that since GTA3 literally went 97-95-95-98-97 in terms of Metacritic scores is a fucking insane take. GTA's critical track record is just as good as Zelda's. And that's before even talking about the commercial popularity where Zelda doesn't even touch GTA's shadow. No one is arguing here they should give the award to Pragmata over OOT remake or whatever. They're saying when you have two GOAT games in OOT and GTA6, it makes more sense to give the award to the brand new game rather than the game that was already GOTY in 1998 which cannot fairly be critiqued or viewed in an unbiased way because of its historical context.

 

[heroeskillrats]

This is just the NakeyJakey take that went viral.

No, that's just been how they've made every single GTA game since GTA 1. That's why I think their games are so overrated.
With Bethesda, people joke about their games being bad, mid, overrated. With Rockstar, everyone claims it's gold which makes no sense. It's really the same shit just more polished.

But there is tons of shit to do in Rockstar games outside of the missions.

People said this about Rebirth. There's nothing to do. The games are completely empty and void of life. The mini-games are boring AF.

Rockstar going sci-fi sounds like a bad idea. Their expertise is recreating American cities and settings with intriguing stories and characters that also parody American life and society.

Their expertise lol. Their expertise can easily be applied to a cyberpunk or sci-fi setting with similiar fictional ads, politics, tv, future police etc. Sci-fi doesn't have to mean Star Wars, man. The only real question is just how the top Rockstar bosses feels about it and if they can sell it to Take-Two.

Especially when the game you're arguing in favor of is a 1:1 remake where obviously the value of these awards becomes muddied because if a remake of a previous GOTY can just win GOTY again, what is the point?

lol. Why did AI slop like E33 win vs real games made by real humans? Why did indieslop win vs AAA games?
Ocarina is the greatest game so it deserves to win the awards. All the naysayers are just angry because it's a Nintendo game.

Hell, even GoW2018 beating RDR2 was pretty shocking to most people

I don't think it was that surprising. It was a mid off. But RDR2 is insanely boring and tedious to play. GTA 6 will be the same.

Critics aren't anti-Nintendo

Man, IGN is there saying they gave OOT a 9 because it's not revolutionary. They gave Mixtape a 10 I believe. If you're siding with them it really shows how insane you've become.

There is no such thing as an objective 10/10 game

Bullshit. Perfection exists and for gaming Ocarina of Time achieved it. But any time something achieves true greatness like there's always gonna be salty haters. Michael Jackson Bad beats the shit out of modern music. But gaming critics are butthurt because they're salty over WHO made the game.

 

[Yrassinad]

No, that's just been how they've made every single GTA game since GTA 1. That's why I think their games are so overrated.
With Bethesda, people joke about their games being bad, mid, overrated. With Rockstar, everyone claims it's gold which makes no sense. It's really the same shit just more polished.

Bethesda and Rockstar games are nothing alike. You weren't thinking Rockstar was overrated when you still thought GTA6 was dropping on Switch 2 day one . And clearly the TOTK team didn't think Rockstar's design was overrated considering they were inspired by RDR2.

People said this about Rebirth. There's nothing to do. The games are completely empty and void of life. The mini-games are boring AF.

Another dumb as fuck statement. There is a shitton to do in Rebirth, the mini games are fun for the most part or GOATed (Queen's Blood). The game is full of challenging content and post-game challenges. The combat system took the already great combat in Remake and expanded on it even more.

Their expertise lol. Their expertise can easily be applied to a cyberpunk or sci-fi setting with similiar fictional ads, politics, tv, future police etc. Sci-fi doesn't have to mean Star Wars, man. The only real question is just how the top Rockstar bosses feels about it and if they can sell it to Take-Two.

Yeah just like the Zelda team could take their expertise to make a sci-fi version of Zelda where he has a lightsaber instead of a sword. But instead they are just going to do another timeline reset, put it in another fantasy setting, and have the same main characters and villain they've had in every game.

Literally no one wants Rockstar to divert from what they excel at except you lol, only because you have to fabricate some realistic-sounding criticism of their games so you can downplay them for not being on Nintendo hardware.

lol. Why did AI slop like E33 win vs real games made by real humans? Why did indieslop win vs AAA games?
Ocarina is the greatest game so it deserves to win the awards. All the naysayers are just angry because it's a Nintendo game.

AI slop? Lmao. Oh wait, I forgot, the game beat Donkey Kong and is not on Switch so I guess that's why you have to hate on E33. 99% of E33 was made by humans and they just had some AI placeholder art at the start of the game that they patched out. It was a game with a great story, great characters, great soundtrack, a fun and well-designed combat system. Again, you're just mad because it beat DK.

Ocarina is not the greatest game, that's just your opinion. Just like it'll be many people's opinion that GTA6 is the better game this year which is why it'll take the GOTY award. There is no hate against Nintendo, that's an insane take. Even games that are divisive among the Zelda fanbase like Skyward Sword have insanely high review scores. Nintendo games frequently score in the 90s. Because there is no hate, you're just a delusional fanboy.

I don't think it was that surprising. It was a mid off. But RDR2 is insanely boring and tedious to play. GTA 6 will be the same.

"Mid off" he says about a 94 MC vs 97 MC game. You are not a serious person. Everything not on Nintendo is mid to you, until it comes to Nintendo and then you'll glaze it like you're doing with Cyberpunk.

Man, IGN is there saying they gave OOT a 9 because it's not revolutionary. They gave Mixtape a 10 I believe. If you're siding with them it really shows how insane you've become.

The dude who reviewed the game for IGN is literally their resident Nintendrone, who in his own words says Zelda is his favorite franchise and has a Zelda profile banner.

In the review he says he would've given the OG OOT a 10/10 as well at the time. But he's reviewing this game in the context of 2026 and tried to keep pre-existing biases out of it. Unlike you he's not a cultist who believes that just because the original is sitting at an inflated 99 on MC, the remake must automatically get the same score, so he can approach it from a more objective point of view. He does almost nothing but praise the game but also notes that some of the dungeons have been streamlined too much to his liking. That's a valid opinion.

But anyway since you want to dismiss his opinion, let's also dismiss his 10/10 DK Bananza review shall we?

Some other reviewer at IGN giving Mixtape a 10/10 is totally irrelevant. Reviews are opinions, and in this case they are opinions by different people on different games.

Bullshit. Perfection exists and for gaming Ocarina of Time achieved it. But any time something achieves true greatness like there's always gonna be salty haters. Michael Jackson Bad beats the shit out of modern music. But gaming critics are butthurt because they're salty over WHO made the game.

Perfection doesn't exist and especially when it comes to works of art such as books, music, movies and games, it's all subjective. What you are doing is arguing like The Godfather is the best movie ever made just because it's on top of IMDB, and everyone who disagrees with it must just be a Coppola hater. It's fucking stupid.

I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan and Off the Wall and Thriller are both better than Bad, so I'm not even sure why you'd use that album as an example. If someone wants to listen to Bad and says it's a mid album I'd call them crazy but it's their opinion. Someone who is deep into Metal or Country is probably not going to like that album nearly as much as someone who's into pop either and even if they do appreciate it or acknowledge its quality will maybe give it an 8/10 or a 9/10 instead of a 10/10. That shit is totally normal and fine, unless you are a cultist/stan.

Saying gaming critics are butthurt that Nintendo makes good games is fucking stupid. I don't know a single reviewer who openly shits on Nintendo or downplays them. Nintendo games frequently get 90+ scores from critics and sometimes get a pass for things that would get called out on other games. Again, you are just living in a completely different universe.

 

[heroeskillrats]

You weren't thinking Rockstar was overrated when you still thought GTA6 was dropping on Switch 2

Just take the Cyberleek L already.

(Queen's Blood)

Yeah, and it's the only fun thing to do. That doesn't justify why FF7 was split into 3 parts at all.

Literally no one wants Rockstar to divert from what they excel at

Bitch please I've heard people say they're tired of seeing the same cities all the time. What they excel at is open world, they wouldn't be moving away from that.

The dude who reviewed the game for IGN is literally their resident Nintendrone

You don't know our civil wars or culture. He's a traitor and always has been.

let's also dismiss his 10/10 DK Bananza review shall we?

I can because they're giving the same scores to complete shit games and AI slop. A 10/10 is supposed to mean something. The second you give it to shit then you're no longer a real critic.

"Mid off" he says about a 94 MC vs 97 MC game. You are not a serious person.

OOT came out in 1998 and it has a proper melee perspective. GOW is stuck with RE4 close shoulder look because Santa Monica thought when Sony said "copy TLOU" in a handwritten crayon note they meant literally everything. RDR2 came out in 2018 which was 1 year after BOTW, after that you can't take mid open world games seriously anymore. The standards had changed. Rebirth also got 92, are we gonna pretend it's also not mid? If you were a Square Enix fanboy you'd debate I'm retarded, instead you're a Sony pony and can't admit one of Sony's games was mid. High reviews don't mean shit in gaming, especially when critics lie so much.

Bad, so I'm not even sure why you'd use that album as an example

I was talking about the song. Musicians don't even do real albums anymore so it's pointless to compare "albums."
You're really showing your unc status

Saying gaming critics are butthurt that Nintendo makes good games is fucking stupid.

Are you really gonna play this stupid? Look at gaming history and look at the scores and it's obvious. One company has always stood above everything else and it's Nintendo. There's insane jealousy and butthurtness from critics who can't admit the obvious. The fact that it's happening again this year and people now have to downplay remakes lol. In general remakes have been shit but it's a great idea that other companies ruined because they don't care about quality and their history. Meanwhile Nintendo still had the freaking map artist recreating the new map. Pure soul.

 

[Yrassinad]

Just take the Cyberleek L already.

You are a moron if you think 5 minutes of out of context low res footage from a leaked build is an accurate representation of what this game is going to be like. Actually room temperature IQ.

Yeah, and it's the only fun thing to do. That doesn't justify why FF7 was split into 3 parts at all.

I know where this is going and it's just you going to argue that 1:1 remakes are the best thing ever because that's what Nintendo with OOT. FF7 Rebirth is an amazing game, one of the best this gen. And it didn't just rest on its laurels of the OG game, when they could've easily done that. They took the middle section of a PS1 game and made it a modern-day open world RPG that can stand next to titles like The Witcher 3.

The remake trilogy of FF7 is the best remake out there for me personally, because it actually adds something new rather than just going "let's take successful game X and give it a paint job".

Bitch please I've heard people say they're tired of seeing the same cities all the time. What they excel at is open world, they wouldn't be moving away from that.

More retarded takes. I bet you saw these comments in the same magical realm where everyone is selling their PS5 to buy Switch 2s?

They don't just excel at open world, they excel at a specific genre of open world where no one can match them. No one can make open world cities like they do. Part of the appeal of GTA is precisely that it's set in time periods and locations that people can actually recognize.

You don't know our civil wars or culture. He's a traitor and always has been.

Yes because I'm not a deranged individual who voluntarily chooses to be in cult-like Nintendo bubbles where you can all circlejerk about your persecution complex.

I can because they're giving the same scores to complete shit games and AI slop. A 10/10 is supposed to mean something. The second you give it to shit then you're no longer a real critic.

It's the only 10/10 he has given out. You don't even understand the basics of how reviews work man, get out of here.

OOT came out in 1998 and it has a proper melee perspective. GOW is stuck with RE4 close shoulder look because Santa Monica thought when Sony said "copy TLOU" in a handwritten crayon note they meant literally everything. RDR2 came out in 2018 which was 1 year after BOTW, after that you can't take mid open world games seriously anymore. The standards had changed. Rebirth also got 92, are we gonna pretend it's also not mid? If you were a Square Enix fanboy you'd debate I'm retarded, instead you're a Sony pony and can't admit one of Sony's games was mid. High reviews don't mean shit in gaming, especially when critics lie so much.

Who cares man. God of War's combat is way better than OOT's despite its flaws. And I'm not just talking about 2018 GOW here. Even the OG God of War had better combat. Combat in OOT is basically baby's first 3d melee combat game, because that's actually what it was back when it released since everyone was still used to 2D at the time. OOT's combat wouldn't even make the top 100 best combat systems in gaming. It's great for its time but nothing to write home about.

Also love how you make it look like Rockstar somehow followed Nintendo by saying RDR2 came out after BOTW. As if RDR1 hadn't released in 2010, seven years before BOTW. More delusional cope trying to downplay how Rockstar has always been the industry leader for open world games.

And I don't even have to "pretend" that Rebirth is not mid. It's anything but mid, it's an amazing game that 100% deserves the 92 MC score.

Also wtf are you even saying I can't admit Sony's games are mid? Have you missed the whole Wolverine civil war here? I was defending all the reviews and previews from moment one when everyone here, just like you, were crying that the media is biased against Sony and that they're unfairly giving lower scores to Wolverine than game X just because it's a Sony game. And I played the game myself and said I'd rate it a 7.5/10 at best. I likewise said Saros came and went like it never existed. I said Marathon was a commercial flop from season 1 and that it was a flawed game even if it had some redeeming qualities too. I've said all the sequels they put out this gen were straight improvements gameplay-wise but didn't hit as hard the second time around. I constantly say the main reason I enjoyed my PS5 was because of third party games, I've always pushed back against all the constant crying about PC ports too because I don't think Sony first party games are anywhere as consequential as people paint them out to be.

Anyway, glad you say high reviews don't mean shit in gaming. I'll keep that in mind if you want to bring up the 99 MC for OG OOT or the 96 MC for the remake.

I was talking about the song. Musicians don't even do real albums anymore so it's pointless to compare "albums."
You're really showing your unc status

What are you even talking about man. Musicians release albums all the time. Nowadays they're inflated as fuck and full of filler because they're no longer capped by the limitations of vinyl and they're designed to litter the feeds with a bunch of sub-3-minute tracks because it's optimized for streaming platforms and TikToks but they release albums all the same.

And why the fuck would you take a single song and why specifically that song lol. Say Billie Jean or whatever and I'd at least get it. Bad is not even a top 5 MJ song lol.

Are you really gonna play this stupid? Look at gaming history and look at the scores and it's obvious. One company has always stood above everything else and it's Nintendo. There's insane jealousy and butthurtness from critics who can't admit the obvious. The fact that it's happening again this year and people now have to downplay remakes lol. In general remakes have been shit but it's a great idea that other companies ruined because they don't care about quality and their history. Meanwhile Nintendo still had the freaking map artist recreating the new map. Pure soul.

Dude, how are you unironically telling me to look at history and scores? You know, the same history constantly showing 90+ MC scores for Nintendo games? Is that not enough for you? Should Metacritic allow games to be rated above 100 just for Nintendo only so delusional fanboys like you can feel better about themselves?

Saying Nintendo has stood above everything else is retarded. There are plenty of third parties that can put out games on par with Nintendo or sometimes better than Nintendo. Especially because games are a subjective matter anyway and Nintendo doesn't cover every genre. If you want adult stories, Nintendo doesn't provide shit in that category. Want a shooter? Unless you like shooting ink at loli squids you're also out of luck there. Western-style RPGs? Survival horror? No luck there either. Even in genres where they do make games, like JRPGs, they are not better than the actual genre leaders. The only genre where Nintendo has always stood far above the competition has been platformers. Other than that there are plenty of developers who can stay in the same weight class as them. Same goes for Sony for that matter before you accuse me of more dumb shit.

And again, why the fuck would critics be jealous and butthurt? What are they supposed to be jealous of? And why specifically jealous of Nintendo and not other companies? It makes absolutely no sense. It's not like IGN is reviewing GameSpot or whatever and they'd have a reason to be jealous. They have Nintendo fanboys at IGN reviewing Nintendo games for a living. Wtf is he supposed to be butthurt and jealous about?

You are just a totally delusional fanboy. Arguing that other companies ruined the concept of remakes and supposedly poisoned the well for Nintendo who is finally jumping on the remake bandwagon 10 years later lol. It's stupid as fuck. RE2 Remake is a better remake than OOT Remake because it actually took the original and made it even better. FF7 Remake is a more interesting remake because it massively expands what was there and is retelling the story in a way where even people who played the OG are on the edge of their seats trying to find out what will happen next and how it will all be wrapped up.

OOT Remake is a great game and a solid remake that does the original justice but acting like they've done something revolutionary here is stupid as fuck. It falls in the class of the Dead Space/RE4 remake for me. Giving already great games that have aged very well outside of graphics and controls a new coat of paint and some QOL changes to give it a second life. The fact that you think hiring a map artist to draw the map is some groundbreaking shit shows how low your standards are because all you do is play and glaze Nintendo games. That shit has been done before. Man people hired linguists to invent whole fucking languages for games in the past, get out of here.