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Over 100 million with covid and the rampocalypse. Just goes to show how strong the brand really is.

Imagine where it would be now under normal market conditions without even counting GTA6.
 
after all the doom and gloom this entire gen the discourse behind these numbers is funny

how many times do people have to be reminded that PlayStation is a third-party powerhouse, not a first party one.

first party games on PlayStation, is quite literally just icing on the cake.
 
after all the doom and gloom this entire gen the discourse behind these numbers is funny

how many times do people have to be reminded that PlayStation is a third-party powerhouse, not a first party one.

first party games on PlayStation, is quite literally just icing on the cake.

I'd say Sony has always been about exclusives 1st and 3rd party, ontop of being a 3rd party powerhouse.

Its what made them stand out from Sega and Nintendo.

Games like GT, Crash, GOW, SoTc, PS1/PS2). Either by sales or huge reviews made there 1st party respected

There 3rd party exclusives like MGS, Tekken, Final Fantasy, DMC defined there 1st 2 consoles. GTA timed exclusives

Nintendo and Sega didnt get games like Parasite Eve, XenoGears, DMC, Onimusha, Ridge Racer, Silent Hill, Tomb Raider 2-3, RE3 and hundreds more.
They were an exclusive powerhouse.

During the PS3 it was Uncharted, TLOU (PS3) breaking there first party records and winning GOTY.

PS4 also had so many exclusives 1st and 3rd party exclusives for the time. From GOW 2018, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Detroit etc

They need the balance, 1st party, 3rd party exclusives, and being the most stable 3rd party console
 
I'd say Sony has always been about exclusives 1st and 3rd party, ontop of being a 3rd party powerhouse.

Its what made them stand out from Sega and Nintendo.

Games like GT, Crash, GOW, SoTc, PS1/PS2). Either by sales or huge reviews made there 1st party respected

There 3rd party exclusives like MGS, Tekken, Final Fantasy, DMC defined there 1st 2 consoles. GTA timed exclusives

Nintendo and Sega didnt get games like Parasite Eve, XenoGears, DMC, Onimusha, Ridge Racer, Silent Hill, Tomb Raider 2-3, RE3 and hundreds more.
They were an exclusive powerhouse.

During the PS3 it was Uncharted, TLOU (PS3) breaking there first party records and winning GOTY.

PS4 also had so many exclusives 1st and 3rd party exclusives for the time. From GOW 2018, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Detroit etc

They need the balance, 1st party, 3rd party exclusives, and being the most stable 3rd party console
Sony's first party has a lot of prestige. Sure they have massive IP with GoW, TLoU and GT.... but them always showing up for their partners is what made them such a force to begin with.

They make great games, this gen included. But that was never why their brand was so strong. it's less than 10% of the pie.

I think the discourse around the PS5 gen being weaker, has more to do with the PS4 first party games being unusually popular for them.

PS3 was my favorite era of SIE games.... and it turns out that was their least popular console. A lot of the stuff people argue about on forums, truly doesn't even matter at all lmao
 
I'd say Sony has always been about exclusives 1st and 3rd party, ontop of being a 3rd party powerhouse.

Its what made them stand out from Sega and Nintendo.

Games like GT, Crash, GOW, SoTc, PS1/PS2). Either by sales or huge reviews made there 1st party respected

There 3rd party exclusives like MGS, Tekken, Final Fantasy, DMC defined there 1st 2 consoles. GTA timed exclusives

Nintendo and Sega didnt get games like Parasite Eve, XenoGears, DMC, Onimusha, Ridge Racer, Silent Hill, Tomb Raider 2-3, RE3 and hundreds more.
They were an exclusive powerhouse.

During the PS3 it was Uncharted, TLOU (PS3) breaking there first party records and winning GOTY.

PS4 also had so many exclusives 1st and 3rd party exclusives for the time. From GOW 2018, Bloodborne, Persona 5, Detroit etc

They need the balance, 1st party, 3rd party exclusives, and being the most stable 3rd party console

Back when they banked a lot on exclusives they faced way steeper competition in the console space. Now they only have to a contend with an Xbox on its deathbed and a Nintendo who have long exited the home console battle and built a platform mostly around their own software releases.

They can mostly coast by being the default high-end console. Just look at GTA6. It's not an exclusive but it might as well be at this point.

This whole gen their output was relatively weak, they put everything on PC, almost every third party release is day one multiplatform now (Xbox+PC at least) and still they sold 100m with relative ease despite 2 years of shortages and price increases rather than decreases over time.
 
I think the discourse around the PS5 gen being weaker, has more to do with the PS4 first party games being unusually popular for them.

Except the same popular PS4 exclusives are the same IP as the popular PS5 exclusives, just sequels

So I don’t get the argument that there’s some dropoff

The argument comes from PC tourists that claim to be Sony fans but buy everything on PC

That’s not your typical PS5 consumer though. They get all their titles on PS5 as their primary platform
 
They’re carried by exclusives. Third party is more or less never going to take of on Nintendo like they do on PS/PC.
You say "take off" like there's not a ton of people who have switched already which makes the name Switch even funnier in retrospect.
If someone wanted to buy the AAA games before though they literally didn't exist, only old school stuff.
 
Except the same popular PS4 exclusives are the same IP as the popular PS5 exclusives, just sequels

So I don’t get the argument that there’s some dropoff

The argument comes from PC tourists that claim to be Sony fans but buy everything on PC

That’s not your typical PS5 consumer though. They get all their titles on PS5 as their primary platform
People are playing blind that Sony isn't shipping games is what it is.

Sony and Capcom shipped a ton of content this year. But you'd think Sony didn't show up at all if you read the discourse
 
Sony getting rid of PC bullshit and PlayStation keeps going up in sales and crossing the 100 million mark like previous gens.

Microsoft keeps being ass like always and this is why Xbox is in free fall.

Is this a good ass week?
 
It makes zero sense to think like this when Nintendo finally has third party support and they're marketing those games.

Snap back to reality. The biggest third party game of the generation is coming next week and will outsell most high profile third party releases this year combined. And guess what, it's not coming to Switch 2.

Marketing third party games is just basic business man. Stop reading into shit, it's not that deep. Someone buys a copy of FF7 Remake on Switch 2, Nintendo makes money. It's that simple. There's nothing more to it. It's not some cryptic jab at Sony.

Except the same popular PS4 exclusives are the same IP as the popular PS5 exclusives, just sequels

So I don’t get the argument that there’s some dropoff

The argument comes from PC tourists that claim to be Sony fans but buy everything on PC

That’s not your typical PS5 consumer though. They get all their titles on PS5 as their primary platform

There's a clear drop off in first party sales, there's no denying that. And yeah, sequels are not as exciting as new IP or reboots that give an IP a second life. Whatever was successful this gen, outside of HD2, is mostly resting on the success from the previous gen where they actually had to take some risks. What is the PS5 gen leaving behind for the PS6 to coast upon? Almost everything that's going to be guaranteed hits on PS6 will once again be continuations of PS4 series.

You say "take off" like there's not a ton of people who have switched already which makes the name Switch even funnier in retrospect.
If someone wanted to buy the AAA games before though they literally didn't exist, only old school stuff.

Dude, be realistic. There are 25m Switch 2 out there. Realistically if all of them had been previous PS5 players that's still only 25% of the users switching lmao. So much for "a ton". You are again thinking a few vibes post on Reddit about someone selling their PS5 for a Switch 2 means it's some widespread phenomenon. It's not. Third parties make WAY less money on Nintendo compared to PlayStation, these are just basic and undebatable facts. One platform sold 80m+ third party games last quarter, the other sold less than half that. Despite that latter one having 155m+25m consoles out there.

People are playing blind that Sony isn't shipping games is what it is.

Sony and Capcom shipped a ton of content this year. But you'd think Sony didn't show up at all if you read the discourse

Well Capcom's games this year all landed and Sony's didn't, that's the difference. And naturally Capcom doesn't rely on only one platform for the word of mouth. RE9 alone has outsold all Sony's releases this year combined and then some.
 
and Sony's didn't, that's the difference. And naturally Capcom doesn't rely on only one platform for the word of mouth. RE9 alone has outsold all Sony's releases this year combined and then some.
I don't judge games based on popularity. I judge them on their quality.

Saros, Marathon, and Tokon are all standout games for me this year. Wolverine was mid. Wasn't interested in Sons of Sparta.

Who am I to complain that I got 4 quality games from a single publisher this year? Because they underperformed? lol I might as well delete my entire library and only play CoD, Fortnite, and GTA since those games do huge numbers. Ironically, the one that sold the most, is easily the worst of the 4 titles.
 
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