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[heroeskillrats]

Skyrim came out in 2011 and won in 2011, what are you even talking about?

Yeah that's my point. That's when the 3DS remake came out. Ocarina of Time was always a home console game, 3DS remake was a handheld remake. Nobody argued ever that GOTY shouldn't win but now when Ocarina is mogging then suddenly remakes is a problem.
It's funny people are so vocal about it when it's AI slop and indies that truly doesn't deserve any kind of awards.

 

[voke]

Yeah that's my point. That's when the 3DS remake came out. Ocarina of Time was always a home console game, 3DS remake was a handheld remake. Nobody argued ever that GOTY shouldn't win but now when Ocarina is mogging then suddenly remakes is a problem.
It's funny people are so vocal about it when it's AI slop and indies that truly doesn't deserve any kind of awards.

2011, the year we were blessed with Dark Souls(better than Oot), Skyrim, Batman AC, and Uncharted 3. No shit a 3DS game wasn't even in the conversation, and quite frankly, neither should the new remake.

Idk why I am even wasting time for you, OoT is a less than 0% of taking GOTY so this conversation is useless.

 

[Yrassinad]

So? Skyrim won GOTY back then so now Ocarina doesn't deserve to win against all the lesser games this year?

If Skyrim beat it last time, GTA6 will wipe the floor with it this time lol.

And yes, if Bethesda drops a Skyrim remake next year I also don't think that should be winning or even nominated (that being said, Skyrim probably aged a lot more poorly, just look at the Halo 1 Remake).

When you remake old games or 2D games it costs just as much and it's just as risky as making new games.
What data does Square Enix have if they remake FF6 with a one game remake that it's gonna be a big hit? They don't. There's no data at all.
But if they were to do it and it's the best game of the year then obviously it should win if they do it in the future.

Just as risky as making new games? Man your statements get dumber day by day. The reason everyone is doing remakes is literally because they're less risky. You have the performance of the old game, you can make an estimate of how many people are going to show up at minimum. You already know how critics view the game. There's tons of pre-existing word of mouth out there that you don't have to earn a second time. You don't have to waste time on coming up with a concept, writing a scenario, etc. The list goes on.

Also, as @voke mentioned this isn't even the first remake of the game. So they already knew how many people showed up last time at a bare minimum.

They're cheaper/easier to make and less risky to put out. Unless you go for the reimagining route like RE2/FF7 Remake, but even then those titles will naturally have a minimum customer base purely off of nostalgia for the old title alone. In FF7 Remake's case the launch sales were so good that it probably broke even immediately before anyone could even really decide on whether it was good or not.

FF6 is old as fuck and nowhere near as popular as games like FF7 or OOT were. Note how these companies are remaking their greatest hits, not the cult classics that were under appreciated. There's a reason Nintendo remade OOT and didn't start with LTTP or whatever. But even if they were to remake it, it would naturally benefit from a lot of the factors I mentioned above.

And if Square remakes FF6 almost 1:1 and only modernizes the graphics and adds some QOL changes, I do not think it should be nominated for or win GOTY either.

Yeah that's my point. That's when the 3DS remake came out. Ocarina of Time was always a home console game, 3DS remake was a handheld remake. Nobody argued ever that GOTY shouldn't win but now when Ocarina is mogging then suddenly remakes is a problem.
It's funny people are so vocal about it when it's AI slop and indies that truly doesn't deserve any kind of awards.

Man stop acting like this debate is something new spurred on by Ocarina of Time "mogging". Like I said before, this debate kicked off years ago when RE4 was nominated. People were ok with FF7 Remake getting nominated in 2020 because of how different it was. And even then you probably had some people arguing against it. Also there wasn't a sea of 90+ games in 2020 like there were in 2023. But with the RE4 remake, the game so closely resembled the original which is already seen as one of the GOATs and won GOTY when it released. So that's when people started debating whether it's really fair or a good thing to nominate and award such games over fresh titles.

 

[AllBizness]

Marathon is my GOTY

 

[heroeskillrats]

And yes, if Bethesda drops a Skyrim remake next year I also don't think that should be winning or even nominated

Skyrim felt a lot like GTA 5 or RDR2. Outdated at launch.

The reason everyone is doing remakes is literally because they're less risky.

Ain't the same as remaking old games. They're all been using early demakes and lousy ones at that to simply to make money.
Ocarina of Time is unlike any other remake ever made.

stop acting like this debate is something new spurred on by Ocarina of Time "mogging"

People say it literally. They say it's the best and should win and therefore shouldn't win. I've ironically never seen that happen before where people admit it should win so therefore it shouldn't. Truth is another open world game winning that does nothing innovative would be boring as fuck.

 

[Yrassinad]

Skyrim felt a lot like GTA 5 or RDR2. Outdated at launch.

Holy shit, the takes just keep getting worse and worse. All three of these games have sold dozens of millions, or in GTA5's case hundreds of millions in the years since they launched. They were so outdated at launch that one of these games is still frequently in the top 20 annual sales charts and prints half a billion a year.

Ain't the same as remaking old games. They're all been using early demakes and lousy ones at that to simply to make money.
Ocarina of Time is unlike any other remake ever made.

Man stop it with these fucking stupid takes. The OOT Remake is no different from the RE4 Remake. It took 90% of what was there, shuffled some things around to keep it fresh for returning players and make it more suitable for modern sensitivities, and mostly just improved the control scheme while redoing the graphics. When you take a game that's already rated 90+ and don't mess around with it too much, you can reliably expect a 90+ MC score again with a remake. Zero risk involved.

The only remakes that are actually risky are the ones like FF7 Remake because they fundamentally alter what the game is and are taking creative risks in multiple ways. Massively increasing the scope also comes with a massive increase in budget and timeline. FF7 Remake got criticized partially for some of the things they added that weren't there before (side quests), which wouldn't have been there if they just did a 1:1 remake. Likewise, if Nintendo had expanded OOT greatly and added new zones or dungeons and those were viewed as lower quality, or if they messed around with the story to people's dislike, it could've also dragged the score and reception down. But they took no such risks.

People say it literally. They say it's the best and should win and therefore shouldn't win. I've ironically never seen that happen before where people admit it should win so therefore it shouldn't. Truth is another open world game winning that does nothing innovative would be boring as fuck.

Literally no one is saying this shit because GTA6 is dropping this year. No one unironically expects OOT to beat GTA6 unless there's something seriously wrong with GTA6, which would be unprecedented for Rockstar. This is a company that has a pretty much uninterrupted streak of putting out 95+ MC games since 2001 for their main releases.

 

[heroeskillrats]

All three of these games have sold dozens of millions, or in GTA5's case hundreds of millions in the years since they launched

So? There's lots of boring movies that made money. It's the same thing in gaming.

The OOT Remake is no different from the RE4 Remake

I still see plenty of who preferred the original and I never saw the crazy takes people have about Ocarina, which is partly because it's a Nintendo game obviously.

When you take a game that's already rated 90+ and don't mess around with it too much, you can reliably expect a 90+ MC score again with a remake. Zero risk involved.

There's plenty of IPs that aren't as strong as Zelda though. Zelda is a global seller and stronger than ever.

Literally no one is saying this shit because GTA6 is dropping this year.

Oh really. I've seen people say that over and over. It doesn't deserve to win because they feel it'd be unfair to Rockstar.
Like Rockstar deserves it all after they killed physical and charged $100 for a rental.

 

[heroeskillrats]

 

[voke]

Idk what you're excited about. OoT ain't winning the grand prize

 

[B.O.R.G. Dexter]

If new games can't compete with remakes TGA should create a fake GOTY award so it doesn't hurt the feelings of small indie companies like Rockstar when they lose. A particpation trophy.

LOL. ROFLMAO even.

 

[heroeskillrats]

Idk what you're excited about. OoT ain't winning the grand prize

I'm excited for you. TGA is gonne be live on Roblox. Good for you, little guy