You really trying hard to wish cast your dreams of PS failure into reality. There’s no need to be that afraid for Nintendo.
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Digital Foundry: PlayStation has an "exclusive of sorts for RDNA5 on handhelds"
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Are you buying either day 1?
Again you are over here wish casting. The fuck do you know? You know shit. Oh ur ur am I gonna spend 2k day 1 ur ur no u lose then what the fuck are you on about?
Here’s what I’m not buying, a switch 2. Once we see the devices and know the price then we can talk, but all I see from you is wish casting a complete crash for PS. What if Nintendo has to raise Switch 2 prices to 600$ next year, and the PS handheld is 800$? Nintendo is cooked because 600$ for a kid’s toy?
See I can come up with out of the blue speculation too.
I don't ignore third parties that are already there, I just realize as someone who has played on other platforms that it's nowhere close to the entire slate of third party releases. And many of them are old ports.
Who cares about a better profit margin when the revenue amount is so much lower that even with a twice as good profit margin they still make less profit overall? Nintendo's profit margins have also tanked hard since they released Switch 2. Subsidizing that thing in Japan, their main market, ain't cheap.
What are you even talking about lmao? Tens of millions? Wow Sony is killing it on PC apparently. And I can't believe you're trying to pull the "uncle who runs Steam in the background" cope argument here. Yeah, I'm sure people can't drop $1200 on a PS6 but they'll drop $500 on a PS5 to watch YouTube and Netflix on it.
Guess what, Sony won't fucking care. They make the same whether someone buys EAFC29 on a PS5 or a PS6. Do you think Apple cares that apps are still running on iPhone 11? And do you think that because an iPhone 11 gets the same content as an iPhone 18 that people are not buying the latter? Some people have money and are just going to buy the latest device no matter what, even over what others consider minor upgrades. Pro consoles are a thing.
They don't have to because unlike with PS3, a new generation isn't a total reset of the market and because they no longer have a competitor to threaten their home console business.
"Everything's coming to Switch 2" - you've been saying this shit for a year now. How's it going so far?
Borderlands 4? Cancelled.
Elden Ring? Finally out after a long delay.
007 First Light? Delayed until next year.
Ace Combat 8? Skipped Switch 2.
Blood of Dawnwalker? Skipped Switch 2.
Star Wars Galactic Racer? Skipped Switch 2.
Control Resonant? Skipped Switch 2.
GTA6? Will skip Switch 2.
All the hundreds of games that released on PS4-PS5 and skipped Nintendo because it only had Switch 1? Still mostly missing.
This is just a handful of examples.
Now if this thing has a QD-OLED or OLED screen at least that is 4K and @ 120 Hz or higher so am I sold tbh!
There is a clear reason Xbox, PC & Nintendo fanboys are constantly praying for Sony to change their minds and cancel the handheld. They know exactly what happens once PlayStation turns its full ecosystem power onto portables.
I have not seen a single person from those communities praying for Sony to change their minds and cancel the handheld wtf. If anything, the only people I've seen doing that would be the section of fans of Sony that are home console diehards and think a PS6 handheld would be holding the home console back.
Not just that, the handheld is supposed to run even PS6 next gen games which puts it 2 gens apart again from the Switch 2 on a portable form this time. Switch 2 is an afterthought for current gen for being a last gen tech that barely competes with PS4.
I will buy both day 1.
Xbox is dogshit, PC is too much hassle compared to a console and Nintendo has nothing to offer for me.
And I want to play Sony first party games at their best (Just like I do now on a PS5 Pro) even if they have a crossgen launch.
And all of that will be significantly brought down if it's more expensive than most other handhelds in the market. They will have to either subsidize hard, sell at a huge loss like they eventually had to do with the PS3 (which nearly financially destroyed the brand as admitted by Yoshida himself) or just take the high price and see how that goes with the masses that aren't brand loyal and care much less about power than accessibility. People seem to forget the winners of literally every gen since Gen 5 (counting Switch as 8th gen) were never the strongest consoles.
Everyone has different budget
Again, what are they doing on a PS5 or PS4 other than playing games? People aren't dropping $500 on a device to use it as a shittier streamer box.
I don't wish anything, I'm just observing reality. All of Rockstar's games have skipped Nintendo, so far the last game that was ported to Nintendo was a PS3 title. And the fact that GTA6 is running at 30 FPS on the home consoles should tell you enough. GTA games are very CPU intensive and Switch 2's CPU is substantially weaker than what's in the home consoles. You think they couldn't make Borderlands 4 work on Switch 2 and T2 was ok with cancelling it all together but somehow GTA6 is gonna run on it?
Switch 2 is still the fastest-selling console of all time lol, fans of every console platform should be "panicking" with what's going for this industry with courtesy of the AI bubble.
If Sony wanted to be clear about MAU they could be using "launched a video game on PS consoles only."
GTA demake edition hit NS1, RDR1 hit NS1 and NS2. I know you don't believe in the GTA 6 rumors and leaks but if Rockstar is trying to miss Nintendo they're doing a terrible job at it.
Yeah except Sony shows the split between people using a PS5 specifically and using a PS4+other devices and the former is a much bigger part of the chart. But sure man, cope that tens of millions are just accidentally booting up the PS App on their phone. Even if you wanna believe that shit, it just further shows how much money Sony's active users are spending and how even if PS6 sells underwhelmingly it won't matter for their finances. Because it'd mean they actually have far less active users than they try to show, but the revenue keeps going up regardless.
"We know it's coming", no we don't. There is one insider claiming a port was planned, but the same insider also said a Starfield and Doom TDA port were planned and those are nowhere to be found either.
Also even if it does come, we're talking about a port of a game that'll be 9 years old soon. Yeah, that's exactly my point. Rockstar skips Nintendo and only dumps old games on it years and generations later. It took 20 years for GTA3 to finally come to Nintendo, 15 years for RDR1 and GTA4, GTA5 and RDR2 are still not on it despite those games either being over a decade old or close to a decade old now.
So they spread misinformation but when they talk about Switch 2 ports they're on the money? Sure dude. GTA5 wouldn't have even been considered an "impossible port" for Switch 1 considering it launched on the PS3/360 and yet that game never showed up. Now you wanna tell me GTA6, a game that's skipping PS4 (Pro) - the power level that Switch 2 is mostly operating it - and will not even be able to hit 60 FPS on base or even Pro current-gen consoles presumably is going to get ported to Switch 2? Yeah, unlikely. Note that I never said any given port is impossible. You can strip down many games and make them run on dogshit hardware, it doesn't mean they will.
Okay. Are you gonna buy PS6 and PS handheld when they're both $1000+? That'd be 2k on hardware alone.
Are you buying either day 1?
Again you are over here wish casting. The fuck do you know? You know shit. Oh ur ur am I gonna spend 2k day 1 ur ur no u lose then what the fuck are you on about?
Here’s what I’m not buying, a switch 2. Once we see the devices and know the price then we can talk, but all I see from you is wish casting a complete crash for PS. What if Nintendo has to raise Switch 2 prices to 600$ next year, and the PS handheld is 800$? Nintendo is cooked because 600$ for a kid’s toy?
See I can come up with out of the blue speculation too.
I don't ignore third parties that are already there, I just realize as someone who has played on other platforms that it's nowhere close to the entire slate of third party releases. And many of them are old ports.
Who cares about a better profit margin when the revenue amount is so much lower that even with a twice as good profit margin they still make less profit overall? Nintendo's profit margins have also tanked hard since they released Switch 2. Subsidizing that thing in Japan, their main market, ain't cheap.
What are you even talking about lmao? Tens of millions? Wow Sony is killing it on PC apparently. And I can't believe you're trying to pull the "uncle who runs Steam in the background" cope argument here. Yeah, I'm sure people can't drop $1200 on a PS6 but they'll drop $500 on a PS5 to watch YouTube and Netflix on it.
Guess what, Sony won't fucking care. They make the same whether someone buys EAFC29 on a PS5 or a PS6. Do you think Apple cares that apps are still running on iPhone 11? And do you think that because an iPhone 11 gets the same content as an iPhone 18 that people are not buying the latter? Some people have money and are just going to buy the latest device no matter what, even over what others consider minor upgrades. Pro consoles are a thing.
They don't have to because unlike with PS3, a new generation isn't a total reset of the market and because they no longer have a competitor to threaten their home console business.
"Everything's coming to Switch 2" - you've been saying this shit for a year now. How's it going so far?
Borderlands 4? Cancelled.
Elden Ring? Finally out after a long delay.
007 First Light? Delayed until next year.
Ace Combat 8? Skipped Switch 2.
Blood of Dawnwalker? Skipped Switch 2.
Star Wars Galactic Racer? Skipped Switch 2.
Control Resonant? Skipped Switch 2.
GTA6? Will skip Switch 2.
All the hundreds of games that released on PS4-PS5 and skipped Nintendo because it only had Switch 1? Still mostly missing.
This is just a handful of examples.
Because if hardcore PS fans aren't even gonna be there day 1 then who will be?
That's straight from Sony. Active users doesn't mean gamers.
You wish, bro. So much for "I don't care if Sony loses" talk.
I know you're trying to do a "gotcha" here, but I'll be there day 1, but given the reality of scalpers nowadays, I may need to wait a month or so until they're easily found in stores.
This thread was mostly about civil speculation about the specs and hardware before you came in with the console warring and instigation. There are no sales to discuss because this hasn't even been officially revealed yet. This thread was not about its potential sales and nobody brought it up until you came in with your complex.
Now if this thing has a QD-OLED or OLED screen at least that is 4K and @ 120 Hz or higher so am I sold tbh!
Nintendo fans are absolutely panicking right now. Switch 2 sales are underperforming globally, and pulling barely 20k units in Japan is an absolute disaster for a home market. That is why they are desperately trying to trash talk the upcoming PlayStation handheld. Historically, Sony dominated home consoles while Nintendo stuck to handhelds, so they stayed out of each other's way. But with Sony entering the dedicated handheld space, they are stepping directly onto Nintendo’s turf. If Sony secures even a fraction of market share, Nintendo is in deep trouble.
There is a clear reason Xbox, PC & Nintendo fanboys are constantly praying for Sony to change their minds and cancel the handheld. They know exactly what happens once PlayStation turns its full ecosystem power onto portables.
This is the same type of grifter level FUD you and most of this site scoff at when it comes to PS. Are we going to act like PS hadn't had multiple months of having decade level lows that anti-PS grifters have pounced on that suddenly don't matter because their near-GTA months have recovered? S2 is still the fastest selling console, had a near 7 month streak of being #1 in both units and dollar sales in the US 7 months after release which was faster than both S1 and PS5, and is highly likely to be #1 in YTD no matter how the rest of the months go. And they've yet to have their biggest ace in the holes of 3D Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, and Smash.
I have not seen a single person from those communities praying for Sony to change their minds and cancel the handheld wtf. If anything, the only people I've seen doing that would be the section of fans of Sony that are home console diehards and think a PS6 handheld would be holding the home console back.
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Not just that, the handheld is supposed to run even PS6 next gen games which puts it 2 gens apart again from the Switch 2 on a portable form this time. Switch 2 is an afterthought for current gen for being a last gen tech that barely competes with PS4.
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I will buy both day 1.
Xbox is dogshit, PC is too much hassle compared to a console and Nintendo has nothing to offer for me.
And I want to play Sony first party games at their best (Just like I do now on a PS5 Pro) even if they have a crossgen launch.
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And all of that will be significantly brought down if it's more expensive than most other handhelds in the market. They will have to either subsidize hard, sell at a huge loss like they eventually had to do with the PS3 (which nearly financially destroyed the brand as admitted by Yoshida himself) or just take the high price and see how that goes with the masses that aren't brand loyal and care much less about power than accessibility. People seem to forget the winners of literally every gen since Gen 5 (counting Switch as 8th gen) were never the strongest consoles.
Equivalent of "secret tools" that MS had
Just make good games
Just make good games
Some will but both some will buy one at the time. Who cares. Good PC is around 3k so whatever
Everyone has different budget
Again, what are they doing on a PS5 or PS4 other than playing games? People aren't dropping $500 on a device to use it as a shittier streamer box.
I don't wish anything, I'm just observing reality. All of Rockstar's games have skipped Nintendo, so far the last game that was ported to Nintendo was a PS3 title. And the fact that GTA6 is running at 30 FPS on the home consoles should tell you enough. GTA games are very CPU intensive and Switch 2's CPU is substantially weaker than what's in the home consoles. You think they couldn't make Borderlands 4 work on Switch 2 and T2 was ok with cancelling it all together but somehow GTA6 is gonna run on it?
Switch 2 is still the fastest-selling console of all time lol, fans of every console platform should be "panicking" with what's going for this industry with courtesy of the AI bubble.
No, used services on any device. If someone accidentally opens up any PS app they're probably counting that as MAU.
If Sony wanted to be clear about MAU they could be using "launched a video game on PS consoles only."
This isn't even true as usual. We know RDR2 remastered or whatever they're gonna call it is coming.
GTA demake edition hit NS1, RDR1 hit NS1 and NS2. I know you don't believe in the GTA 6 rumors and leaks but if Rockstar is trying to miss Nintendo they're doing a terrible job at it.
Digital Foundry who spread tons of misinformation for $$$ doesn't even believe there's any impossible games anymore.
Yeah except Sony shows the split between people using a PS5 specifically and using a PS4+other devices and the former is a much bigger part of the chart. But sure man, cope that tens of millions are just accidentally booting up the PS App on their phone. Even if you wanna believe that shit, it just further shows how much money Sony's active users are spending and how even if PS6 sells underwhelmingly it won't matter for their finances. Because it'd mean they actually have far less active users than they try to show, but the revenue keeps going up regardless.
"We know it's coming", no we don't. There is one insider claiming a port was planned, but the same insider also said a Starfield and Doom TDA port were planned and those are nowhere to be found either.
Also even if it does come, we're talking about a port of a game that'll be 9 years old soon. Yeah, that's exactly my point. Rockstar skips Nintendo and only dumps old games on it years and generations later. It took 20 years for GTA3 to finally come to Nintendo, 15 years for RDR1 and GTA4, GTA5 and RDR2 are still not on it despite those games either being over a decade old or close to a decade old now.
So they spread misinformation but when they talk about Switch 2 ports they're on the money? Sure dude. GTA5 wouldn't have even been considered an "impossible port" for Switch 1 considering it launched on the PS3/360 and yet that game never showed up. Now you wanna tell me GTA6, a game that's skipping PS4 (Pro) - the power level that Switch 2 is mostly operating it - and will not even be able to hit 60 FPS on base or even Pro current-gen consoles presumably is going to get ported to Switch 2? Yeah, unlikely. Note that I never said any given port is impossible. You can strip down many games and make them run on dogshit hardware, it doesn't mean they will.