Helldivers 2 will require Steam players to sign in with PSN account, led to review bombing games & refunds. |UP| Gamers organizing to revert reviews.

Cool hand luke

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This is the first time I've genuinly thought to myself, that most people seem to have it out for PlayStation for absolutely no reason.

This is genuinly insane behavior over an email & password link.


It's definitely a bias against PS, but this also makes me question how many Steamlickers are on the spectrum. This kind of antisocial lunacy is just cringe otherwise. And see how delulu they are thinking PC has any import whatsoever in the traditional gaming market.
 

Nomen_Nescio

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You keep repeating this but the disclaimer was always there on Steam so there was no breach of agreement with the customer buying the game? Why are they entitled for refunds 3 months after purchase if absolutely nothing changed? It's not an online game that you pay monthly.

Valve is being stupid and if I was Sony I would delete all my games from there.
That is Sony's knee jerk reaction to the massive backlash, hopefully they learn to prevent easily preventable issues in the future, but I would not hold my breath.
 

Neversummer

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lol, Epic and others would have been so happy if it was simple to make a launcher
Sony just need a PS PC launcher for gamers on PC to play there games. They don’t need a PS PC launcher to compete w Steam look at Riot launcher or Take 2 own launcher it’s literally just a launcher for gamers & there fans to easily play there games while ignoring Steam & Epic. Why did Sony bend the knee? Hmm maybe because they were looking at the short term instead of long term. Which is dangerous now they have to deal with this fiasco
 

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It is definitely overblown and inflated by astroturfers, but going in the opposite extreme and acting like Sony did nothing wrong and that their execution of this is not clumsy at best, idiotic at worst, is not doing anyone any favors, to "real" gamers or Sony.
i agree. they had to make a warning below the price on Steam, that PSN is disable for short time because it is broken for short time and it is mandatory otherwise.

i don't think that they thought that it will be blown out of proportion. but we know, that PC people are most entitle players in this world.
 

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Sony just need a PS launcher for gamers on Pc to play there games. They don’t need a PS PC launcher to compete w Steam look at Riot launcher it’s literally just a launcher for gamers & there fans to easily play there games while ignoring Steam & Epic. Why did Sony bend the knee? Hmm maybe because they were looking at the short term instead of long term. Which is dangerous now they have to deal with this fiasco

Riot Launcher is in the same way as Battle.net, a history of being entrenched into the PC community. A Sony launcher will not be that way, just like Win Store and EGS.
 

Nomen_Nescio

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i agree. they had to make a warning below the price on Steam, that PSN is disable for short time because it is broken for short time and it is mandatory otherwise.

i don't think that they thought that it will be blown out of proportion. but we know, that PC people are most entitle players in this world.
In the future I would roll out the game bit by bit to a limited ammount of players and would require a PSN creation from the start from those players. Sony massively underestimated the succes this game had and TBH I do not think anyone could have predicted HD 2 to blow up so much.
 

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Riot Launcher is in the same way as Battle.net, a history of being entrenched into the PC community. A Sony launcher will not be that way, just like Win Store and EGS.
well then fuck PC players, they don't care or like Sony/PlayStation so there's no reason for Sony to be nice to them and bring their games to the monopolistic storefront they like to consume
 

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In the future I would roll out the game bit by bit to a limited ammount of players and would require a PSN creation from the start from those players. Sony massively underestimated the succes this game had and TBH I do not think anyone could have predicted HD 2 to blow up so much.
Ghost of Tsushima Legends will ask one day 1
 

Etifilio

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it's too much entitlement for players that would not even receive a single piece of content 5 years ago, this Sony right here needs to come back, want to play PlayStation games, either buy the fucking console or sign in to PS Launcher on PC, enough of this good neighboorhod simpathy, it's about time they realize that they compete directly with Valve in the gaming storefront segment, specially with Steam Deck around
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It is definitely overblown and inflated by astroturfers, but going in the opposite extreme and acting like Sony did nothing wrong and that their execution of this is not clumsy at best, idiotic at worst, is not doing anyone any favors, to "real" gamers or Sony.
Their execution of this has been the same from day one , if there were issues with linking ps network with the game at launch that a Dev issue so people should be blaming arrowhead if they're actually mad about it
 
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klomzi

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well then fuck PC players, they don't care or like Sony/PlayStation so there's no reason for Sony to be nice to them and bring their games to the monopolistic storefront they like to consume

Sony isn't owed business. They are not your friends. They are a company who's goal is to make money.
 
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Neversummer

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Riot Launcher is in the same way as Battle.net, a history of being entrenched into the PC community. A Sony launcher will not be that way, just like Win Store and EGS.
Then maybe Sony needs to buy CDPR for GOG or Take 2 for Rockstar launcher. Is there any other prominent launcher? Maybe Hoyoverse but since there tied to china i don’t see a acquisition of them

Sony needs to control & moderate there games on PC someway.
 
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Etifilio

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the biggest mistake they made was rushing this PC strategy, it should be implemented only when they had their own storefront ready to go, i said this multiple times, if you inure these people to know they can get playstation content on other storefronts they'll resist change eventually, we're currently seeing that with a simple account requirement
 
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well then fuck PC players, they don't care or like Sony/PlayStation so there's no reason for Sony to be nice to them and bring their games to the monopolistic storefront they like to consume
Sony needs to buy Kadokawa/Fromsoft & make there games exclusive to PS & if they make a multiplayer live service make it exclusive to the PS PC launcher.

Sony needs to consolidate so they can compete with PC & have those gamers by the balls. Capcom & Kadokawa needs to be acquired & made exclusive & invest 40% into Square Enix so technically there independent but you have enough shares to make Final Fantasy & Dragon Quest super ngleplayer games exclusive. I hope that Paramount deal fails I would rather see WB
 
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Etifilio

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Sony needs to buy Kadokawa/Fromsoft & make there games exclusive to PS & if they make a multiplayer live service make it exclusive to the PS PC launcher.

Sony needs to consolidate so they can compete with PC & have those gamers by the balls. Capcom & Kadokawa needs to be acquired & made exclusive & invest 40% into Square Enix so technically there independent but you have enough shares to make Final Fantasy & Dragon Quest super ngleplayer games exclusive. I hope that Paramount deal fails I would rather see WB
the moment they buy someone like FromSoftware and make their future games PS Launcher exclusives these dudes will be obligated to use their launcher, then we'll see how mad they'll get about it, i've never seen in my life such toxic and hypocritical fanboys as Valve fanboys, literally, what we've seeing is evident real life proof of that
 
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