AMD's next generation gaming CPU Zen 4 to launch soon

[John Elden Ring]

AMD is scheduled to perform a technical presentation on its next generation "Zen 5" CPU core at Hot Chips 2024 conference on August 27.
https://hotchips.org/advance-program/

These technical presentations take place after the official launch of the products, which means that the launch will happen before August 27.

Current rumors suggest that the launch will happen on June 3 at Computex 2024, with availability a few weeks later.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/pr...a-name-and-hints-at-an-imminent-release-date/

 

[Entropi]

Neat!

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Just gimme Strix Halo on a handheld and I'll be in my way. Thanks.

 

[Systemshock2023]

Amd should decimate Intel with this release. And hopefully if they gain more share on CPUs they can reinvest that on GPUs to compete better vs NVIDIA.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Amd should decimate Intel with this release. And hopefully if they gain more share on CPUs they can reinvest that on GPUs to compete better vs NVIDIA.

With Strix Halo and its successors going for RTX 4070+ performance on laptops, APUs are probably going to become a very large chunk of AMD's GPU marketshare.
On dGPUs they're not going to compete above the RX 7900 XT with Navi 48. Actual high-end is only coming in late 2025 or 2026 with RDNA5.

 

[Nhomnhom]

I still see no point of better CPUs for gaming at 60fps. If I could use my PC for work I would upgrade but since I have to use the company's one I'll stick to my R5 5600 for a long time.

 

[Systemshock2023]

With Strix Halo and its successors going for RTX 4070+ performance on laptops, APUs are probably going to become a very large chunk of AMD's GPU marketshare.
On dGPUs they're not going to compete above the RX 7900 XT with Navi 48. Actual high-end is only coming in late 2025 or 2026 with RDNA5.

Kinda find those 4070 claims I ve heard hard to believe. The 8700G gets destroyed by a GTX 1060. I don't see AMD making such a significant leap in IGPU performance.

And as @Nhomnhom stated on the post above I find these desktop APUs very unbalanced. They should focus more on better GPU performance if their objective is entry level gaming. Who cares about 8cores 16th threads and Ryzen 5800 or more like performance when the only way to make your games look decent on that APU to cap them to 30 FPS. One piece of silicon is idling while the other is hanging for dear life.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Kinda find those 4070 claims I ve heard hard to believe. The 8700G gets destroyed by a GTX 1060. I don't see AMD making such a significant leap in IGPU performance.

And as @Nhomnhom stated on the post above I find these desktop APUs very unbalanced. They should focus more on better GPU performance if their objective is entry level gaming. Who cares about 8cores 16th threads and Ryzen 5800 like performance when the only way to make your games look decent on that APU to cap them to 30 FPS.

I've been waiting for them to do that for years but it never happens. It would the best move for AMD and the PC market. Entry level CPUs for the gaming market should be like the PS5. The real low end GPU market doesn't even exist anymore and the weak APUs we get don't make up for it.

 

[Systemshock2023]

I've been waiting for them to do that for years but it never happens. It would the best move for AMD and the PC market. Entry level CPUs for the gaming market should be like the PS5. The real low end GPU market doesn't even exist anymore and the weak APUs we get don't make up for it.

I have heard about APUs being the future for desktops since they first released around 15 years ago. They do have some use cases such as:

SFF PCs
Emulation boxes
E sports, retro, indie gaming


But for AAA gaming they make no sense at all. They only manage to look decent at the tail end of a console generation. Where they typically get close to match console performance on the GPU side

The 5600g got a lot of people on a budget into PC gaming so there's some merit there. These new APUs aren't as convenient yet

 

[Nhomnhom]

I have heard about APUs being the future for desktops since they first released around 15 years ago. They do have some use cases such as:

SFF PCs
Emulation boxes
E sports, retro, indie gaming


But for AAA gaming they make no sense at all. They only manage to look decent at the tail end of a console generation. Where they typically get close to match console performance on the GPU side

The 5600g got a lot of people on a budget into PC gaming so there's some merit there. These new APUs aren't as convenient yet

They would make perfect sense if they were made like console are made but for some reason they never pushed for that.

 

[Shmunter]

With all this npu talk for AI acceleration- where is this all going with x86?

 

[ethomaz]

I did not understand the OP text.

The title says Zen 4 that launched in 2022 and have nothing related to next-generation in 2024.
But the text says Zen 5 that will be presented in Hotchips... that is indeed next-generation.

Or perhaps it is a type in the title

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Kinda find those 4070 claims I ve heard hard to believe. The 8700G gets destroyed by a GTX 1060. I don't see AMD making such a significant leap in IGPU performance.

AMD never made an APU this big for the PC market either. It's not like AMD technically couldn't do this before, it's that AMD chose not to.

With Halo we're looking at a multichip setup, with one GPU+IO chiplet that's probably a lot larger than Phoenix/8700G, plus two Zen5 CPU chiplets with 8 cores each.
The GPU itself is as wide as the RX 6700XT with 40 CUs, but it supposedly clocks all the way up to 3.2GHz for 16 TFLOPs / 32 TF dual-issue.
It won't reach desktop RTX4070 performance, but this is a laptop part and it proposes to replace the RTX4070 laptop (completely different performance levels).

I have heard about APUs being the future for desktops since they first released around 15 years ago. They do have some use cases such as:

SFF PCs
Emulation boxes
E sports, retro, indie gaming


But for AAA gaming they make no sense at all.

Strix Halo is a waste on emulation, indie and retro gaming. It'll be a lot faster than a PS5 in games and it fits a laptop, but it's also so much more than that. Besides the large iGPU it also has 16x Zen5 cores and a 50-70 TOPs NPU.
It can also use up to 128GB total RAM, so it'll be running GPT3.5-like LLM models that are a lot more advanced than the ones they can cram onto the $2000 RTX 4090 24GB or the $8000 RTX 6000 Ada 48GB.

The thing is basically a competitor to Apple's M3/M4 Max, but on a platform where you can actually play more than 5 videogames and from laptop makers who won't charge you $5000 for a PC.