Are Sony bomastics first party titles all just "movie games"

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Ok so hear me out. I heard a lot of people painted Sony first party games since PS4-PS5 era a bunch of movies game. Now when I think about it, they are actually very diverse, at least in gameplay and design.

God of War rebooy duology: Semi-open world hub game fixed enemy placement. Grounded gameplay with block/parry and light/heavy attacks combat system, pretty good imo. Some boss fights designed are actually pretty good, telegraphs, unique movesets. The worst part of the game is the puzzles, but besides that, quality gameplay and level design.

Ghost of Tsushima: Open-world which minimal HUD focus on exploring new quests through "interactive encounters". Combat, I like it. At launch it has no lock on but they fixed it in the Director cut. The combat is grounded, dependent on stances, the boss design is meh but besides that I think it has solid combat design. Normal enemies somehow are more enjoyable to fight than bosses for some reasons.

Spider-man games: Beat em up improvising combat from Arkham games. Very solid and even better than " press ∆ to win" combat. This sets it decade apart from Arkhams. Good enemies variety(second game, first game sucks on that). The gadgets and skill trees are really fun to use and the boss fight are enjoyable, (Arkham games shit bed on this department).
I think they could improve on using the enviroment as well.

The Last of Us/Uncharted: Typical cinematic third person shooter. Uncharted got the climbing mechanic that make it unique, even though set pieces that set these games apart from others. Uncharted 3 plane's drop, Uncharted 2 train section, Uncharted 4's Madagascar chase and TLoU2 burning village. Basically, memorable set pieces.

Horizon: Ubisoft formula with better cutscenes


So yea, I think they are pretty unique on its own beside from heavy emphasis on narrative. Their cutscenes are top notch which somehow make their reputation as movie games, ignoring other elements.


I think PS lacks a cutting-edge branching path RPG but that audience is larger on PC so in the end, it doesn't matter much isn't it?
 

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Yes, Sony games are very diverse. Idiots try to hate on their games by saying "they're all just 3rd person action adventure games!!" as if that means anything. Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey are both 3rd person action adventure games too, and they couldn't be anymore different. Anyone that actually believes God of War and Horizon are remotely similar are on drugs or have never actually played them. Even TLOU and Days Gone, both post apocalyptic zombie games, are still very different from one another. Uncharted is nothing like TLOU and they're both 3rd person cover shooters made by the same studio. Ghost of Tsushima and Horizon are both called "Assassin's Creed ripoffs" and are both also very unique in their own ways.

The term "movie game" is purely an Xbox fanboy term used to downplay Sony's amazing games. All these clowns love Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption, Metal Gear Solid, Plague Tale Requiem, GTA, Hellblade, etc, but none of those are ever called "movie games". It's a term strictly reserved for Sony 1st party, no one else.

They're just salty that Sony 1st party are some of the only studios that fire on all cylinders, with great writing, gameplay, acting, graphics, cutscenes, etc, while Xbox games can barely do 1 thing right. Sony excelling in writing and graphics kind of takes away some of the spotlight from the gameplay, and so they try to say they have no gameplay or boring gameplay so they're "movie games - no gameplay just cutscenes". Witcher 3, RDR2, Plague Tale all have amazing gameplay though 🙄. Conversely, Xbox games tend to have below average graphics and writing, and so their average gameplay sticks out more which makes them cope by saying "XBOX FOCUSES ON GAMEPLAY!!!" even though their gameplay is still much worse than PlayStation games.

They also completely ignore games like Returnal, Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet and Clank, Gravity Rush, Sackboy, Concrete Genie, Dreams, Gran Turismo, etc

There's a lot more I can say, but I've talked about this stuff too much. Just ignore the Xbox haters, they're just jealous and coping. Many of them will call them boring movie games but still rush out to buy every new $70 release while pretending to hate it. But they know deep down they'll never pay $70 for any Xbox studio game, and only acknowledge them because they're on a cheap subscription service. PlayStation games are just held to a different standard than the rest of the industry.

There's a real double standard, and these are the same clowns that have the gall to cry about an "xbox tax". It is what it is, these image sums it up perfectly:

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Wait Plague Tale 2 has great combat?

It has poor combat imo, sling, sling, sometime swing swing, very janky. The stealth section are not even that great.
 
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Wait Plague Tale 2 has great combat?

It has poor combat imo.
The gameplay was ok....nothing on the level of Sony games, not even TLOU which is what it took a lot of inspiration from. But those goofy bots were hyping it up because it was a day 1 gamepass game and acted like it was the greatest game they've ever played, even though they hate on the Sony games that it clearly took inspiration from.
 
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The gameplay was ok....nothing on the level of Sony games, not even TLOU which is what it took a lot of inspiration from. But those goofy bots were hyping it up because it was a day 1 gamepass game and acted like it was the greatest game they've ever played, even though they hate on the Sony games that it clearly took inspiration from.
Yea ND set pieces are the best. TLOU/UC are the only one deserved being called "movie games" imo.

I mean GOWR narrative is very underwhelming overall and the puzzles are just wanker but the more I play it, I appriciate it enemies design and boss designs. The move sets, the telegraph attacks and the weapon's attacks overall feels great. The bosses design are amazing, the "challenge optional bosses" are well designed this time around and not just 8 copies of each other but it is over here on the map.

GOW is the best Western game when it comes to combat and it is not even close.
 
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Idk about the newer games (or the series at all) but god of war looks more like a beatemup than a movie game. Tbh the new Spider-Man game is kinda the same as well But what I saw of it on YouTube it just seemed like it really did have too much Story in it imo. That doesn’t mean the game was bad though. It looked fun from what I saw of it.
 

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Xbox fanboys hated so called "movie games" but when it was announced that Quantum Break would have an episode in between every single chapter, they called it "Xbox's The Last of Us."

They also laughed at Hellblade for having little combat, but now they're excited for Hellblade 2.
 

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It's not Playstation"a fault the industry is still behind when it comes to mastering full immersion and cinematics into gameplay moments that doesn't take the user out of the moment at all.

With that said... I'm back to playing Uncharted 4 multiplayer and maybe I'm having withdrawals for a Naughty Dog multiplayer game (👀😬)... But Sony really dropped the ball big time. This multiplayer is EXACTLY what they need right now... There's still nothing like it out there.
 
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When you have combat and gameplay as good as TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman 2, God of War Ragnarok, Returnal, Uncharted 4, you dont need to worry about what haters think.

Thats the thing most open world games or action games cant do as good as. People call Ghost of Tsushima a AC game but when has AC had such good combat or production?

Plus the voice acting, fascial animations and attention to detail of studios like ND and Santa Monics is top quality, outside of Rockstar no1 else comes close
 
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I played one movie game from Sony, Erika.

All or most of the others share only one thing in common: they are great games.
Of course bots do not recognize them as such, as they aren't used to good games.
 

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This is a dumb take from Sony haters who try to insult calling "movie games" to games witth great visuals and narrative. Pretty likely it's just envy because their favorite games from Xbox or Nintendo have worse visuals and narrative.

It's also nonsensical because these Sony games are very different and cover many genres and subgenres. And also the majority of Sony games like Gran Turismo, MLB, Dreams, Sackboy, Bloodborne, Demon Souls, Astro, VR games in general and so on can't be fit into there.
 
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No one else in the industry can keep up with the sheer number of Sony 1st party games in terms of presentation, cinematics and immersion

No one can make games like it and have the Reviews for it. There’s definitely a narrative from the games media to stop it because other companies simply cannot continue trying to match it.

Fuck Microsoft and those weirdos on Era cause this is what I’m into gaming
 
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Reducing any game down to a single screenshot is a bad faith argument.

All the games in the second example are vastly different from each other despite being tied together by having open world mechanics. You could argue Sony’s games have an open world presentation but don’t necessarily bother with the mechanics much. That kind of makes the games feel similar to some players. The presentation is much tighter so you don’t really feel like the world is at your beck and call the way other open world games makes you feel. I wouldn’t stretch to say one is preferable to the other. It’s a matter of preference.
 

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The fact that the same people go on to celebrate Hellbrade 2 or Alan Wake or Plagues Tale just illustrates that it is a disingenuous argument aimed at undermining PS exclusives and spreading negative sentiment in the hope that Sony stop making such games.... rather than Microsoft actually having to compete with them directly.

They say they want competition but they don't, they want to "win" by any method, even if it hurts the industry.
 

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God of War 2016 and Ragnarok have the combat and gameplay chops to actually hang in what I believe is the perfect blend of the gameplay and cinema. I don’t feel this way about ND games tho. That’s style over substance.
 
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