m.2 SSDs are getting REALLY cheap

[anonpuffs]

$142 - Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe Gen4 6600MB/s

$127 - Solidigm 2TB 4125MB/s

$160 - Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (note, there were some firmware problems on these so make sure you update it if you're using it on a pc)

$110 - Kingston 2TB 3500MB/s pci gen 3 speeds, but should be fine for 3rd party games since it's still faster than what's in the xbox


The SSD prices are getting crazy low, I kinda feel bad for buying my 2tb last year for $230 since I barely used it so far

 

[Bryank75]

Just about to buy one, think I'm going for the WD Black or the Samsung 980.

Kid forced my hand, he keeps loading all his games and it's wasting my time with deleting and loading too much.

 

[Elder Legend]

Nice too see the prices drop. I am really curious now, what kind of storage space solutions we will be getting with next gen machines on PS6/Next Xbox.

I usually stick with Samsungs personally. And what is the next big thing for speeds?, does anyone know what a next gen SSD would be consisting off? Or is there something completely brand new already in the PC space ?

 

[anonpuffs]

Nice too see the prices drop. I am really curious now, what kind of storage space solutions we will be getting with next gen machines on PS6/Next Xbox.

I usually stick with Samsungs personally. And what is the next big thing for speeds?, does anyone know what a next gen SSD would be consisting off? Or is there something completely brand new already in the PC space ?

Pci gen 5 is already here but it's expensive af. Goes up to 15,000MB/s transfers.

 

[Sircaw]

Just about to buy one, think I'm going for the WD Black or the Samsung 980.

Kid forced my hand, he keeps loading all his games and it's wasting my time with deleting and loading too much.

i dont know if its the right one but

Samsung 980 PRO SSD with Heatsink 2TB PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive, Heat Control, Max Speed, PS5 Compatible, MZ-V8P1T0CW​

185 bucks now, that's incredible considering it's the 2 version not the one 1

 

[TwistedSyn]

Got a 1TB a year ago for like $180 and still haven't filled it fully.

Man Xbox really screwed up. Like I said from the very beginning.

 

[KiryuRealty]

I’m hoping to hold out until I can get 4TB for $199 CAD.

I’ll probably have one in about a decade!

 

[Sircaw]

I’m hoping to hold out until I can get 4TB for $199 CAD.

I’ll probably have one in about a decade!

@KiryuRealty on his way to pick up with 4Tb drive

 

[KiryuRealty]

@KiryuRealty on his way to pick up with 4Tb drive

Computer parts pricing is so fucked here thanks to tariffs, it’s cheaper to buy external hard drives and take the drive out to put it in a PC than it is to buy the same drive bare.

 

[Elder Legend]

Pci gen 5 is already here but it's expensive af. Goes up to 15,000MB/s transfers.

Do you believe that that is what next gen consoles will be using if we are looking at a new cycle beginning sometime in 2028 or 2029? I feel like by then even that will be outdated.

 

[anonpuffs]

Do you believe that that is what next gen consoles will be using if we are looking at a new cycle beginning sometime in 2028 or 2029? I feel like by then even that will be outdated.

Depends on the pricing. Flash memory is scaling faster than DRAM in terms of price/speed/capacity but I honestly dont see applications scaling to the point of needing anything beyond what we have now at least by 2028. Hell, we don't have anything that's maxing out the ps5 right now, which we already know can peak over 22gb/s when the assets can be compressed optimally. Maybe when we start transitioning to 8k+ TVs... and I don't know when that'll happen when we're barely getting widespread adoption of 4k60hz TVs now, but even then I think consoles will try to have hardware DLSS/FSR type upscaling rather than going full native. I think next gen will be about AI acceleration of image upscaling and maybe AI frame generation/prediction because trying to go to 4k120hz or 8k30 natively would be way too costly in components.

 

[Elder Legend]

Depends on the pricing. Flash memory is scaling faster than DRAM in terms of price/speed/capacity but I honestly dont see applications scaling to the point of needing anything beyond what we have now at least by 2028. Hell, we don't have anything that's maxing out the ps5 right now, which we already know can peak over 22gb/s when the assets can be compressed optimally. Maybe when we start transitioning to 8k+ TVs... and I don't know when that'll happen when we're barely getting widespread adoption of 4k60hz TVs now, but even then I think consoles will try to have hardware DLSS/FSR type upscaling rather than going full native. I think next gen will be about AI acceleration of image upscaling and maybe AI frame generation/prediction because trying to go to 4k120hz or 8k30 natively would be way too costly in components.

Hmm true.

Although, I'd have to say 4K60 is pretty adopted at this point though in terms of ownership of the TVs not necessarily games utilizing 4K60 everywhere. I always tend to play majority of my games in performance mode due to the frames. While there is a significant difference between 1080p and 4k, the frames are just too good. But that's a subjective/personal choice.

4K tvs are really cheap now. I have 2 4K60 monitors 24 inches and they were about $400 each and I bought them a few years ago. I do not game on my TV, because I do a lot of 4k60 raw footage capture and I prefer sitting close by a screen anyways.


As for 8K60 -

I believe there is 1 title that is running at 8K60 (Not natively, few tricks) but it's the closest thing we have right now to a 8K60 title. It's running on both the PS5 and the Series X. Neither of the consoles can natively output 8K but this game in particular does simulat 8K via sampling. Digital Foundry did a thing on with direct footage and talked about exactly what's happening behind the scenes.

To be quite frank, while the 8K60 seems to be next logical move for the next gen consoles I am not really sure what to really expect. 4K60 will 100% be the new standard, yes I can see that. But I don't know if there is a noticeable difference anymore between 4K and 8K.

I looked at an 8K TV a few years back at Best Buy and it was kind of hard to tell. Perhaps, we just have to wait and see. I prefer the frames and performance anyways. The extra pixels to me are just a bonus.

 

[Gediminas]

Hmm true.

Although, I'd have to say 4K60 is pretty adopted at this point though in terms of ownership of the TVs not necessarily games utilizing 4K60 everywhere. I always tend to play majority of my games in performance mode due to the frames. While there is a significant difference between 1080p and 4k, the frames are just too good. But that's a subjective/personal choice.

4K tvs are really cheap now. I have 2 4K60 monitors 24 inches and they were about $400 each and I bought them a few years ago. I do not game on my TV, because I do a lot of 4k60 raw footage capture and I prefer sitting close by a screen anyways.


As for 8K60 -

I believe there is 1 title that is running at 8K60 (Not natively, few tricks) but it's the closest thing we have right now to a 8K60 title. It's running on both the PS5 and the Series X. Neither of the consoles can natively output 8K but this game in particular does simulat 8K via sampling. Digital Foundry did a thing on with direct footage and talked about exactly what's happening behind the scenes.

To be quite frank, while the 8K60 seems to be next logical move for the next gen consoles I am not really sure what to really expect. 4K60 will 100% be the new standard, yes I can see that. But I don't know if there is a noticeable difference anymore between 4K and 8K.

I looked at an 8K TV a few years back at Best Buy and it was kind of hard to tell. Perhaps, we just have to wait and see. I prefer the frames and performance anyways. The extra pixels to me are just a bonus.

Xbox SX isn't running it at 8k, just PS5. But nice try to lie.

 

[anonpuffs]

Hmm true.

Although, I'd have to say 4K60 is pretty adopted at this point though in terms of ownership of the TVs not necessarily games utilizing 4K60 everywhere. I always tend to play majority of my games in performance mode due to the frames. While there is a significant difference between 1080p and 4k, the frames are just too good. But that's a subjective/personal choice.

4K tvs are really cheap now. I have 2 4K60 monitors 24 inches and they were about $400 each and I bought them a few years ago. I do not game on my TV, because I do a lot of 4k60 raw footage capture and I prefer sitting close by a screen anyways.


As for 8K60 -

I believe there is 1 title that is running at 8K60 (Not natively, few tricks) but it's the closest thing we have right now to a 8K60 title. It's running on both the PS5 and the Series X. Neither of the consoles can natively output 8K but this game in particular does simulat 8K via sampling. Digital Foundry did a thing on with direct footage and talked about exactly what's happening behind the scenes.

To be quite frank, while the 8K60 seems to be next logical move for the next gen consoles I am not really sure what to really expect. 4K60 will 100% be the new standard, yes I can see that. But I don't know if there is a noticeable difference anymore between 4K and 8K.

I looked at an 8K TV a few years back at Best Buy and it was kind of hard to tell. Perhaps, we just have to wait and see. I prefer the frames and performance anyways. The extra pixels to me are just a bonus.

linky

At the end of 2022 more than half of the US still doesn't own a 4k TV, and given the upgrade cycles of TVs tend to be 7-10 years, that number will trend up slowly. It'll be even lower in the rest of the world. I think probably by 2028 we'll see some 8k TV adoption but it'll be <25% so there's no chance that console designers will target that.

Oh, also, looks like 8K TVs are banned in europe due to power usage. So yeah...

link

 

[Satoru]

Xbox SX isn't running it at 8k, just PS5. But nice try to lie.

Yep, PS5 at 8k, XSX at 6k IIRC

 

[Elder Legend]

linky

At the end of 2022 more than half of the US still doesn't own a 4k TV, and given the upgrade cycles of TVs tend to be 7-10 years, that number will trend up slowly. It'll be even lower in the rest of the world. I think probably by 2028 we'll see some 8k TV adoption but it'll be <25% so there's no chance that console designers will target that.

Oh, also, looks like 8K TVs are banned in europe due to power usage. So yeah...

link

Oh. Interesting, didn't know that. I thought they were mostly adopted due to how cheap they're now.

 

[anonpuffs]

Oh. Interesting, didn't know that. I thought they were mostly adopted due to how cheap they're now.

Over half of the US can't afford a $500 emergency... we're the lucky ones :/ (also full disclosure i don't have a 4k tv despite being able to afford one since I cable-cut and now I watch all my media through ps5 or pc via a 1440p144hz monitor, or on laptop)

 

[anonpuffs]

2TB pci-e gen4 m.2 SSD for $123 at Best Buy

6600MB/S read, heatsink included

 

[Gediminas]

2TB pci-e gen4 m.2 SSD for $123 at Best Buy
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6600MB/S read, heatsink included

Did you include a worker's fee? Someone has to install that SSD..it could end up as pricy as xbox memory stick