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What was the difference last year?
I don't have last year because PES is dead.
But...

FIFA 19 total: 12.22m
PES 2019 total: 0.55m

FIFA 07 total: 6.55m
PES 07 total: 6.37m

See if we go back PES sales will increase while FIFA will decrease.
I guess in PS2 PES > FIFA.
 

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Nah... EA Sports FC will sell several millions more than anything other game has FIFA in the name.
And I believe the best selling Baskeball game is not NBA licensed.

Can you provide some sources and information for the NBA games.

EA Sports FC vs FIFA hasn't even happened yet.
 

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Nah... EA Sports FC will sell several millions more than anything other game has FIFA in the name.
And I believe the best selling Baskeball game is not NBA licensed.

I mean that depends on what is licensed for the games.. EA Sports FC still will have tons of teams and leagues and stadiums.

Far more than say, PES can afford.

In contrast hardly anyone outside of specific countries knows anything about non-MLB baseball. It's just a different sport to compare to... like you could license the japanese league or something but most of the world won't know who those people are lol
 
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Can you provide some sources and information for the NBA games.

EA Sports FC vs FIFA hasn't even happened yet.
I was wrong about NBA games... NCAA are some of the best selling but it is based in license too... just the NBA for Colleges.

EA Sports FC vs FIFA is not even a fair battle.
 
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I mean that depends on what is licensed for the games.. EA Sports FC still will have tons of teams and leagues and stadiums.

Far more than say, PES can afford.

In contrast hardly anyone outside of specific countries knows anything about non-MLB baseball. It's just a different sport to compare to... like you could license the japanese league or something but most of the world won't know who those people are lol
Konami tried that but the gameplay was already too dated.
For example they have Cristiano Ronaldo ;)

Do you think if Sony ditches MLB from the name The Show won't sell in US? US because it sells very little outside US.

IMO I think FIFA is losing a lot... not EA... EA will have it franchise growing with the same fans of the FIFA franchise with probably less investment and more custom modes.
 
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Konami tried that but the gameplay was already too dated.
For example they have Cristiano Ronaldo ;)
I don't know how much Konami licensed to really make a comparison... but honestly from the sounds of it EA Sports FC wont' be losing much other than branding.

We have yet to see the FIFA branding change hands at all.. so it's sort of new territory. It's quite feasible EA will still have the best selling Football game IMO.

Still not sure why we are discussing this here though!
 
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I don't know how much Konami licensed to really make a comparison... but honestly from the sounds of it EA Sports FC wont' be losing much other than branding.

We have yet to see the FIFA branding change hands at all.. so it's sort of new territory. It's quite feasible EA will still have the best selling Football game IMO.

Still not sure why we are discussing this here though!
I think it was because I said Sony have the choice.
They could choose to pay more to MLB.
They could choose to drop MLB and just release The Show.
They could choose to not developer more the game.

They choose the 4th option... to accept to port the game to Xbox... probably Sony thought it was the best deal.
But it was not like Sony didn't have choices.

I think you missed my other question...

Do you think if Sony ditches MLB from the name The Show won't sell in US? US because it sells very little outside US.
 
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Correct. it will be irrelevant without the MLB license, same as NBA, NFL.
I hardly doubt that.
People already new the game and will buy with or without MLB... the 1-2 million US guys/girls that buy it will continue.

It helps more new franchises imo.
That is why EA had no fear and said no to FIFA.
 
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You aren't from the USA, you don't understand.
I'm not from Europe too but EA will sell it football game to the same people they sold FIFA just fine.

To be fair these license names are asking more and more.... probably in the future games publisher/developers will choose to developer their own take in the sport than get the license.

I don't think FIFA vs EA is an isolated case... it just the big one.
 

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I'm not from Europe too but EA will sell it football game to the same people they sold FIFA just fine.

To be fair these license names are asking more and more.... probably in the future games publisher/developers will choose to developer their own take in the sport than get the license.

I don't think FIFA vs EA is an isolated case... it just the big one.

Americans are not going to play a basketball game without Lebron, or baseball without Aaron Judge, or NFL without Mahomes. Sorry but you don't understand this, and it's okay. There's a reason it isn't done. Can someone else from the USA, explain this better. I'm terrible at it.
 
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Americans are not going to play a basketball game without Lebron, or baseball without Aaron Judge, or NFL without Mahomes. Sorry but you don't understand this, and it's okay. There's a reason it isn't done. Can someone else from the USA, explain this better. I'm terrible at it.
PES didn't lack Cristiano Ronaldo either.

You don't need NBA to have Lebron in your game... or NFL to have Mahomes... etc.
You can have any stadium, team, players you want without even need to deal with MLB, NBA, NFL, FIFA, etc.

Even so I believe you don't need any of them to sell your game... it is a good case of study but a good Basketball game will sell even without real players names.
 

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PES didn't lack Cristiano Ronaldo either.

You don't need NBA to have Lebron in your game... or NFPL to have Mahomes... etc.
Even so I believe you don't need any of them to sell your game.

You absolutely need the NBA licensing to have Lebron in your game. It is part of the of the CBA and goes through the player association.
 

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Do you think if Sony ditches MLB from the name The Show won't sell in US? US because it sells very little outside US.
They wouldn't just lose MLB from the name. They would lose all teams and players because of the MLB Player's Association.

My point really being it's not directly comparable. Of course The Show would sell like shit w/o the MLB... it's not the same as losing the FIFA licensing.
 

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They wouldn't just lose MLB from the name. They would lose all teams and players because of the MLB Player's Association.

My point really being it's not directly comparable. Of course The Show would sell like shit w/o the MLB... it's not the same as losing the FIFA licensing.
He doesn't understand. I don't know how else to explain it. I know not being from the USA, it's hard to understand but how else can we break it down for him?
 
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PES didn't lack Cristiano Ronaldo either.

You don't need NBA to have Lebron in your game... or NFL to have Mahomes... etc.
You can have any stadium, team, players you want without even need to deal with MLB, NBA, NFL, FIFA, etc.

Even so I believe you don't need any of them to sell your game... it is a good case of study but a good Basketball game will sell even without real players names.
You're gonna have to provide receipts to this. Ask 2K about All Pro Football 2k8 and see why they never made a second one.
 
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