Sony is making all of the wrong bets MS made years ago

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Etifilio

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- putting tentpole games on PC (will dilute console overtime)
- investing in cloud (will dilute console overtime and it's not the future)
- expanding beyond the console (will weaken the console, make it undesirable)
- investing in subscriptions (it's not the future and will cannibalize game sales, games like GOW Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West should never be on sub-services, just like Rockstar rarely puts their tentpole games on subscriptions)

they fell for the trap MS set for PC releases, they'll fall for the trap MS is setting for subscription services on multiple devices (FireStick, Smart TV, Phones etc), when the only thing they need to do to continue to be profitable and at the top is to invest in the traditional model of consoles, exclusives, a handheld to sell even more digital games (buy a copy on PS5, play on PS5 and on a handheld)

all Sony needed to do after the successful PS4 generation and 118M consoles sold was capitalize on the 100M+ audience that they conquered, making more money from their core users, not try to get users outside of their core product like they're currently doing, that's where $10 game updates, $80/$120/$160 subscriptions and $70 games come in.

even specialists know, subscriptions for gaming are not the future, and neither is cloud, because to pay for the datacenters you need recurrent subscribers to PS Plus Premium for example and this model is not growing, even on all devices, the only thing Sony will do is cannibalize and dillute their console audience, period and if you refuse to see that, you're stupid and blind.


if even trillion dollar companies like Google and now Microsoft failed with this vision, why does Sony (an electronics company) think their future is 'wherever there is computing'?, it's honestly concerning
 
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Nothing but facts.
MS is now paying the price for stupid decisions they made like putting tentpole games that used to sell Xbox consoles (Halo, Gears, Forza) on PC, Cloud and Subscription Services, the only difference is that Sony is not doing it day one, but it'll have similar results either way, cause at the end of the day, it's the same thing, just with a timed advantage for the console, as a company you'll be sharing players for your games across PC, Console and Cloud, and people are starting to realize that, cause now all the major games are on PC, you currently have no Horizon game exclusive to PlayStation consoles, by september, you'll have no God Of War game exclusive to PlayStation consoles and by the beginning of next year you'll have no The Last Of Us game exclusive to PlayStation, people who are on PS4 still and are not convinced to make the jump to PS5 may feel inclined to go to PC, since you made your tentpole games avaliable there
 
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people on here are BLIND, it's not about dooming and glooming, it's about the direction Sony is heading and it's been catastrophic for everyone that tried it so far, turning PlayStation into a subscription service and an app will kill SIE's whole business model, Sony it's an ELECTRICS COMPANY, they need to wake up and realize what they are at the core, Cloud Gaming/Subscription Services/PC releases for tentpole games, it JUST.DOESNT.WORK, glad there's people like @Nhomnhom and @Neversummer that get it
 
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people on here are BLIND, it's not about dooming and glooming, it's about the direction Sony is heading and it's been catastrophic for everyone that tried it so far, turning PlayStation into a subscription service and an app will kill SIE's whole business model, Sony it's an ELECTRICS COMPANY, they need to wake up and realize what they are at the core, Cloud Gaming/Subscription Services/PC releases for tentpole games, it JUST.DOESNT.WORK

Fuck yeah, another doom post in another doom thread.
 
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Sony has, since the PS3, invested in Cloud, PS Now predates Gamepass, and they’ve always expanded beyond consoles. What’s new?
 

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Fuck yeah, another doom post in another doom thread.

Imagine thinking Sony was an electronics company in 2024. They're an entertainment company, not an electronics company.

The mods really need to reign this doomer behavior in. It might not seem like a big deal, but it absolutely pushes people away from posting here. Had I seen how much doomer posts were here before I joined, I wouldn't have. I thought it was a place where people talked about the industry in a more mature manner and without the politics of the other forums.

Instead it's just a lot of sony fanboys who are angry the console war isn't being fought the way they want.
 
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Sony has, since the PS3, invested in Cloud, PS Now predates Gamepass, and they’ve always expanded beyond consoles. What’s new?
so? investing in Cloud was a poor decision, PS Now was a failure, no one wants Cloud gaming, and no they haven't always expanded beyond consoles, for more than 25 years they restricted their main franchises to their hardware to sell it and bring people over, they started putting tentpole games on PC after Microsoft, they're also planning a launcher after Microsoft, but the fun fact here is that Microsoft is the owner of the operating system they're bringing games over to, Sony is not, they have nothing to do with Windows or wanting to grow it for gaming, they should be worried about growing even more their core product, not separating and diluting players of their core franchises across multiple platforms
 

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Imagine thinking Sony was an electronics company in 2024. They're an entertainment company, not an electronics company.

The mods really need to reign this doomer behavior in. It might not seem like a big deal, but it absolutely pushes people away from posting here. Had I seen how much doomer posts were here before I joined, I wouldn't have. I thought it was a place where people talked about the industry in a more mature manner and without the politics of the other forums.

Instead it's just a lot of sony fanboys who are angry the console war isn't being fought the way they want.
Doomers aren't Sony fanboys, they're just the regular brand of delusional.
 
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the only expansion beyond consoles they should be doing is the PlayStation Productions adaptations, popularizing IPs and bringing more people to PLAYSTATION, not Windows PC and Steam.
 
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Imagine thinking Sony was an electronics company in 2024. They're an entertainment company, not an electronics company.

The mods really need to reign this doomer behavior in. It might not seem like a big deal, but it absolutely pushes people away from posting here. Had I seen how much doomer posts were here before I joined, I wouldn't have. I thought it was a place where people talked about the industry in a more mature manner and without the politics of the other forums.

Instead it's just a lot of sony fanboys who are angry the console war isn't being fought the way they want.
you seem like a business corporate slave who's only interest is to generate money without respecting any kind of legacy or identity your product has, Microsoft products such as Zune, Windows Phone, Surface and Xbox are completely UNDESIRABLE and PlayStation is heading the same way
 

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Imagine thinking Sony was an electronics company in 2024. They're an entertainment company, not an electronics company.

The mods really need to reign this doomer behavior in. It might not seem like a big deal, but it absolutely pushes people away from posting here. Had I seen how much doomer posts were here before I joined, I wouldn't have. I thought it was a place where people talked about the industry in a more mature manner and without the politics of the other forums.

Instead it's just a lot of sony fanboys who are angry the console war isn't being fought the way they want.
Yeah I agree with you
These idiots doomers made me stop posting on this forum
I hate to say this But I prefer resetera ps thread more these days lol 😆
 
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actually the only reason i realized you quoted my thread was because someone else replied to you, you're completely ignored right here
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