The Last of Us Part I coming to PC on March 3rd
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Some games will take longer to release than others. That's also expected. As workflows change for the PC, we should be seeing the gap close more.
I think the reality is long as they can port for cheap cost even a million or two in sales is straight up cash.
3 flops on PC in a row and the idiots can't fucking figure it out.
Bunch of morons running PS now.... they need to be run out.
A million copies sold for games like Days Gone and God of War after steams cut is something around 45 million dollars for ports that cost maybe a few million, the ROI is great from an investor standpoint.
But this was a similar situation as the Uncharted Legacy Collection. Port/remake of an old game, announced for PS5 and PC. PS5 and PC versions within a few months of each other.
The release windows for new games will narrow over time, but it won't happen that fast.
Still skeptical about sales potential.
I expect pc gamers to pirate single player games en masse.
Well this game probably won’t flop on PC I guess and it is not like it is a new game… it is basically a re-re-release from a PS3 game.
3 flops on PC in a row and the idiots can't fucking figure it out.
Bunch of morons running PS now.... they need to be run out.
it's a remake? And was made with PC version along side of it because of other teams making Last of Us MP which is suppose to release sometime next year as well.
If the release window is closing why did we not see Forbidden west?
I think Sony takes the releases on a case by case basis, which is dependent on sales, co-development with PC version. Horizon is a huge game, and Gureilla are super busy. So its probably not coming until later next summer June/July.
3 flops on PC in a row and the idiots can't fucking figure it out.
Bunch of morons running PS now.... they need to be run out.
What Flops would those be?
Sackboy is the only one that comes to mind. Spiderman is selling better than GOW, and GOW did extremly well and after Ragarok released on PS5 will continue to sell?
They are making money from PC regardless of how you view it.
As of 21st November 2022, Sony's PC ports have recorded the following highest concurrent number of players:
Spider-Man: Miles Morales Has Better PC Launch Than Sackboy, Uncharted
Peak play count of 13,500 people
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They're only selling about 10% as many copies on PC as they are on PS4, so it may not be a high priority to port more or to port them faster, as the costs of porting aren't inconsiderable. Anyone expecting all PS games to come to PC is wishing big, and anyone who thinks anything but GAAS and online-only games will ever be day and date is retarded.it's a remake? And was made with PC version along side of it because of other teams making Last of Us MP which is suppose to release sometime next year as well.
If the release window is closing why did we not see Forbidden west?
I think Sony takes the releases on a case by case basis, which is dependent on sales, co-development with PC version. Horizon is a huge game, and Gureilla are super busy. So its probably not coming until later next summer June/July.
What Flops would those be?
Sackboy is the only one that comes to mind. Spiderman is selling better than GOW, and GOW did extremly well and after Ragarok released on PS5 will continue to sell?
They are making money from PC regardless of how you view it.
As of 21st November 2022, Sony's PC ports have recorded the following highest concurrent number of players:
Spider-Man: Miles Morales Has Better PC Launch Than Sackboy, Uncharted
Peak play count of 13,500 people
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May never be day and date - but it could be one day. Also, I think the release window will be 6 months. This is my opinion.
Don't know if maybe some of you missed it... but Naughty Dog detailed how PC development is being fully integrated into their studio. They've fundamentally changed how they operate, and now they are a PS and PC development studio.
blog.playstation.com
It's a "pivotal moment" for the studio and their future direction has changed. They developed the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection with Iron Galaxy, and now with TLOUP1 they are developing it solely in house.
This also aligns with the Factions 2 game being in development for both PS5 and PC which will likely release simultaneously for both platforms.
Some of you guys hoping and praying that Sony abandons their PC initiative due to some old titles underperforming are ignorant to what has truly happened here. Sony has fully and fundamentally accepted PC as another platform to build their games on. All of their studios are incorporating this new initiative into their workflows. Sony absolutely 100% knows that it has work to do on the PC platform. Their games, although popular on console, are not guaranteed hits on PC. Again, they know that. Putting these games on PC isn't JUST about expecting to sell millions and millions of more units. It's about building a library of their titles and getting their studios up to speed with PC development BEFORE they start cranking out the REAL reason they are getting into PC gaming... and that's Multiplayer Live Service games.
They haven't been shy about talking about their large amount of upcoming service games.. which they hope to find BIG success with on PC. And they stand a VERY good chance at being successful with it... because if you take Sony's quality and polish, and add that to popular PC genres... utilizing Sony's popular IPs or new IPs... then you have a combination for something extremely successful. Sony knows that, again.
They will continue to release their games on PC, because it honestly costs them very little relatively to do so. They want to be in this market and grow it. The more success they find with other projects, the more it will reinforce their other projects as well. Sony is new to the PC space, and they have to build up a good rapport with PC gamers just like all the others had to. Once that gets firmly established, and PC gamers aren't relegated to being an afterthought... then they will grow.
Sony knows it. It will simply take time because they can't make seismic changes all at once... but make no mistake.. there's no stopping this train. They've essentially peaked for console marketshare. They can't grow it much more than they already have.. which is why PC is becoming important for them. Investors demand growth... So Sony will do what they have to to meet that demand.
How Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection’s PC launch speaks to Naughty Dog’s present and future
Naughty Dog reflects on the studio’s first PC launch, and why it’s such an important step forward for the studio.
blog.playstation.com
It's a "pivotal moment" for the studio and their future direction has changed. They developed the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection with Iron Galaxy, and now with TLOUP1 they are developing it solely in house.
This also aligns with the Factions 2 game being in development for both PS5 and PC which will likely release simultaneously for both platforms.
Some of you guys hoping and praying that Sony abandons their PC initiative due to some old titles underperforming are ignorant to what has truly happened here. Sony has fully and fundamentally accepted PC as another platform to build their games on. All of their studios are incorporating this new initiative into their workflows. Sony absolutely 100% knows that it has work to do on the PC platform. Their games, although popular on console, are not guaranteed hits on PC. Again, they know that. Putting these games on PC isn't JUST about expecting to sell millions and millions of more units. It's about building a library of their titles and getting their studios up to speed with PC development BEFORE they start cranking out the REAL reason they are getting into PC gaming... and that's Multiplayer Live Service games.
They haven't been shy about talking about their large amount of upcoming service games.. which they hope to find BIG success with on PC. And they stand a VERY good chance at being successful with it... because if you take Sony's quality and polish, and add that to popular PC genres... utilizing Sony's popular IPs or new IPs... then you have a combination for something extremely successful. Sony knows that, again.
They will continue to release their games on PC, because it honestly costs them very little relatively to do so. They want to be in this market and grow it. The more success they find with other projects, the more it will reinforce their other projects as well. Sony is new to the PC space, and they have to build up a good rapport with PC gamers just like all the others had to. Once that gets firmly established, and PC gamers aren't relegated to being an afterthought... then they will grow.
Sony knows it. It will simply take time because they can't make seismic changes all at once... but make no mistake.. there's no stopping this train. They've essentially peaked for console marketshare. They can't grow it much more than they already have.. which is why PC is becoming important for them. Investors demand growth... So Sony will do what they have to to meet that demand.
Peaked for console marketshare? In a year where it looks like the holiday quarter will give them the sales crown for the whole year? Reaching much?Don't know if maybe some of you missed it... but Naughty Dog detailed how PC development is being fully integrated into their studio. They've fundamentally changed how they operate, and now they are a PS and PC development studio.
How Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection’s PC launch speaks to Naughty Dog’s present and future
Naughty Dog reflects on the studio’s first PC launch, and why it’s such an important step forward for the studio.
It's a "pivotal moment" for the studio and their future direction has changed. They developed the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection with Iron Galaxy, and now with TLOUP1 they are developing it solely in house.
This also aligns with the Factions 2 game being in development for both PS5 and PC which will likely release simultaneously for both platforms.
Some of you guys hoping and praying that Sony abandons their PC initiative due to some old titles underperforming are ignorant to what has truly happened here. Sony has fully and fundamentally accepted PC as another platform to build their games on. All of their studios are incorporating this new initiative into their workflows. Sony absolutely 100% knows that it has work to do on the PC platform. Their games, although popular on console, are not guaranteed hits on PC. Again, they know that. Putting these games on PC isn't JUST about expecting to sell millions and millions of more units. It's about building a library of their titles and getting their studios up to speed with PC development BEFORE they start cranking out the REAL reason they are getting into PC gaming... and that's Multiplayer Live Service games.
They haven't been shy about talking about their large amount of upcoming service games.. which they hope to find BIG success with on PC. And they stand a VERY good chance at being successful with it... because if you take Sony's quality and polish, and add that to popular PC genres... utilizing Sony's popular IPs or new IPs... then you have a combination for something extremely successful. Sony knows that, again.
They will continue to release their games on PC, because it honestly costs them very little relatively to do so. They want to be in this market and grow it. The more success they find with other projects, the more it will reinforce their other projects as well. Sony is new to the PC space, and they have to build up a good rapport with PC gamers just like all the others had to. Once that gets firmly established, and PC gamers aren't relegated to being an afterthought... then they will grow.
Sony knows it. It will simply take time because they can't make seismic changes all at once... but make no mistake.. there's no stopping this train. They've essentially peaked for console marketshare. They can't grow it much more than they already have.. which is why PC is becoming important for them. Investors demand growth... So Sony will do what they have to to meet that demand.
Also, Naughty Dog is one studio, not all of Sony's studios are doing this, and returns on the process haven't been seen yet. Don't count it as a done deal by a long shot, and dropping cross-gen won't improve the likelihood of PC ports without the PC versions needing to be compromised on technical aspects that PS5 is better-engineered for.
Yes. Their console lifetime sales reach about ~120M units. There's essentially a cap on the amount of people they reach with that market. They're expanding beyond that, into markets where they don't normally penetrate that well.. PC and Mobile. That's why in their investor day slides they show that PC and Mobile are the biggest growth markets. Half of their releases by 2025 are expected to be PC and Mobile releases.
And yes, all of Sony's studios are doing this. Read between the lines. Nixxes has integrated with Insomniac to help them build up their PC development. Naughty Dog with Iron Galaxy. Horizon ZD was with Virtuous.. and God of War was with JetPack Interactive... whom they have since developed a close relationship and integrated with to develop GoW:R... and now have a relationship with Sony to the point of being given the opportunity to create a new title on an existing Sony IP.
All of these studios have been working with those outside porting studios to get them up to speed to do ports in house. Days Gone was developed by Sony Bend in house.. Kojima Productions handled Death Stranding in house too. The engines and the tools are mostly all ported over now, and with the new workflows, they can much more efficiently build and design games around both platforms to begin with.
It's a simply fact... Sony now considers the PC platform with every design decision in mind as they develop their games... and not after the fact. That will improve the quality of the PC versions, and actually all versions of the games going forward.
Yes, only 10 years for this game.
The remake wasn't developed solely in house. The unnamed team from San Diego who pitched and leaded the project until swapped their role to support team probably also worked on the port, or did it themselves without needing ND.It's a "pivotal moment" for the studio and their future direction has changed. They developed the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection with Iron Galaxy, and now with TLOUP1 they are developing it solely in house.
Edit: I assume this other studio is credited in the game credits as PlayStation Studios Creative Arts Development / PlayStation Studios Creative Arts Visual Arts (new name for recent titles they have for the previously named Sony Visual Arts Service Group, the internal Sony outsourcing team they have spread across the world). Seems they didn't give that specific team a name.
Btw, if you want to add it to the list, Climax ported Returnal to PC.
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I've told this back on GAF before and well.... got trolled for it since it wasn't what people wanted to hear. Oh well..