Twitter is Officially Dying: Elon Musk sets new daily Twitter limits for users

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Elon Musk announced Saturday that Twitter will temporarily limit the number of tweets users can read per day — with separate limits for paid and unpaid users — to combat computer programs that comb through posts to extract useful data from the platform.

Now unverified accounts will only be able to see 600 posts per day, and for “new” unverified accounts, just 300 in a day. The limits for verified accounts (presumably whether they’re bought as a part of the Twitter Blue subscription, granted through an organization, or verification Elon forced on people like Stephen King, LeBron James, and anyone else with more than a million followers) still allow reading only a maximum of 6,000 posts per day.

Shortly after that, Musk tweeted that the rate limits would “soon” increase to 8,000 tweets for verified users, 800 for unverified, and 400 for new unverified accounts.

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People are hooked on twitter, he about to make billions off weak dumbasses that need their fix who are now gonna pay the sub fees to get their 6000 tweets.
 
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People are hooked on twitter, he about to make billions off weak dumbasses that need their fix who are now gonna pay the sub fees to get their 6000 tweets.

Subsidy musk making money off twitter? Sure he will 😂
 

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for the confused:

Elon Musk refuses to pay Twitter’s Google bill​

Dispute with Google Cloud could reportedly leave the social media firm’s trust and safety teams in peril​



Twitter is refusing to stand by a $1 billion contract with Google to use its cloud hosting services, according to reports.
Elon Musk’s company is in the process of moving away from Google Cloud before the contract expires on 30 June, Platformer reported, leaving the social media firm’s trust and safety teams in peril.


The move appears to be part of radical cost-cutting measures that have been underway since Mr Musk’s takeover of Twitter in October 2022, which has already seen thousands of employees laid off and a reduction in infrastructure spending.
The deal with Google Cloud relates to hosting services, which include protecting accounts and fighting spam on Twitter.

The effort to move to a different platform is reportedly “running behind schedule”, which could potentially impact Twitter’s ability to detect and remove spam and child sexual abuse material.
Twitter did not respond to a request for comment – the company’s PR team was effectively eliminated during the lay-offs – while Google is also yet to respond.

A separate report from The Information last month claimed that Twitter also delayed payments to Amazon Web Services.

The latest issues come after internal documents revealed that Twitter’s advertising revenue is down by more than half since Mr Musk’s takeover.
The company’s main revenue stream was initially hit by advertisers withdrawing over concerns related to the direction of the platform and its leadership, though Mr Musk claimed in April that “almost all advertisers have come back or said they are going to come back”.

Twitter’s valuation since Mr Musk bought the company for $44 billion has dropped to around $15 billion, according to estimates from investment firm Fidelity.
Newly-appointed Twitter chief executive Linda Yaccarino, who took over from Mr Musk last week, has been tasked with improving relationships with advertisers, while Mr Musk focuses on “overseeing product, software and sysops as the firm’s chief technology officer.

 

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300/600 tweets seems like enough tbh how are people reading 1000 tweets a day
 

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Twitter removes login requirements

Days after requiring users to log in to view tweets, Twitter has silently removed these restrictions. This means you can open Twitter links in a browser without an account.

We at TechCrunch noticed that tweet previews are unfurling in Slack and WhatsApp. Folks at Engadget noted that Twitter previews were visible on iMessage as well.

When Twitter started enforcing the login requirement, Musk said that he took these “temporary” measures to prevent data scraping.


“Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!” he said in a tweet.

The company hasn’t made any official announcement about allowing users to view links when you aren’t logged in or given any details on what measures it has taken to stop scraping.

Twitter’s move comes a day before Meta launches its own text-based app called Threads. Interestingly, Threads also briefly allowed users to view posts on the web without logging in before pulling the links. It is likely that people will be able to see Threads posts without an account when the app officially launches.

Over the weekend, Musk also put read limits of 1,000 posts per day for unverified users and 10,000 posts per day for verified users as a measure to battle data scraping. In a blog post, the company said that this change has affected a “small percentage of people” and “effects on advertising have been minimal.”
 
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Anyone try the new Threads thing on Facebook?

Twitter is tanking amid Threads' surging popularity

Twitter is “tanking” amid Threads’ surging popularity, analysts say​

"There’s only ONE Twitter," Linda Yaccarino tweeted.​

ASHLEY BELANGER - 7/11/2023, 3:22 PM
Twitter is “tanking” amid Threads’ surging popularity, analysts say

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Data shows that a sudden spike in interest in Meta's Threads—which surpassed 100 million sign-ups in five days, Mark Zuckerberg boasted yesterday—has likely already put a tiny dent in Twitter's traffic, The Wall Street Journal reported.
The news comes after a tweet from Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince went viral. In it, Prince shared a Cloudflare chart showing that since January, Twitter traffic—compared to other popular websites—has been "tanking."
During Threads' first two days online, Twitter traffic dropped by 5 percent compared to the same two days in the prior week, web analytics firm SimilarWeb reported. When measuring year over year, Twitter's traffic dropped by 11 percent.
“We’ve been reporting for a while that Twitter is down compared with last year," David Carr, a SimilarWeb senior insights manager, told CNN. "But Threads seems to be taking a bigger bite out of it.”
While Threads continued growing, Twitter execs Elon Musk and Linda Yaccarino started sharing a new metric for user engagement that they seemingly found more encouraging than the somewhat dismal traffic reports.
"Don’t want to leave you hanging by a thread… but Twitter, you really outdid yourselves!" Yaccarino tweeted. "Last week we had our largest usage day since February."
Musk responded to that tweet, clarifying what Yaccarino meant by "usage."
"Cumulative user-seconds per day of phone screentime, as reported by iOS & Android, is hardest to game," Musk tweeted. "I think we may hit an all-time record this week."
While many Twitter users debated whether this new metric was meaningful—and some claimed it wasn't even possible to track—the T(w)itter Daily account explained "why Elon changed Twitter's metrics" from tracking monthly daily active users (mDAU) to user-seconds per day.
"The old mDAU metric" included bots and "people who got a Twitter notification on their phone but didn't open the app," while the "new metric is much harder to manipulate," T(w)itter Daily tweeted.
T(w)itter Daily also claimed that Twitter 2.0 data scientists had verified that "despite some claims to the contrary, it absolutely is possible for Twitter to track how much time people use the app on iOS and Android."
Musk responded to T(w)itter Daily's thread, confirming that bots can still manipulate the new metric "via humans with lots of phones, but that is [more than] 100 times more expensive than bots."
Right now, CNN reported that Threads is "on pace to rapidly pass Twitter’s audience size." Both SimilarWeb and Cloudflare told CNN that Twitter traffic trending downward appears to have been accelerated by Threads' launch, which seems to pose an obvious risk to Twitter's business. It's possible that Yaccarino's and Musk's tweets have introduced a new metric in an effort to reassure advertisers that Twitter engagement has gone up, despite reports of traffic tanking.
T(w)itter Daily went so far as to claim that the reason that Twitter user activity is up despite Threads launching—and despite its own decision to start rate-limiting tweets—is because "all publicity is good publicity." Following that logic, all reports comparing Threads' success to Twitter's decline, including this one (which links to multiple tweets), ultimately lead Twitter users back to Twitter.
Meta and Twitter did not immediately respond to Ars' request to comment.


Twitter restricting Threads links?​

While Musk and Yaccarino have seemed to laugh off Threads as a non-threat to Twitter's business, users have noticed that Twitter seems to be acting defensively by seemingly restricting users from discovering Threads links on the platform.
The Verge pointed out that searching on Twitter for "threads.net" returns a chaotic list of users who have their Threads account in their display names, but no actual links to Threads. Narrowing the search by using the “url:” search operator to return results only at the "threads.net" URL—using the search term “url:threads.net”—currently returns zero results, Ars confirmed.
Twitter has not confirmed that Threads links are being intentionally restricted from search. It seems possible that's the case, though. Previously Musk temporarily restricted Substack links on the platform out of fears that Substack's new app Notes was too similar to Twitter to be promoted on Twitter. And recently, Musk has threatened to sue Meta, calling Threads a copycat.
Users who want to discover Threads links on Twitter can use a workaround, The Verge discovered. Relevant search results appear by tweaking the search operator formatting and searching for “url:“threads net”” instead of “url:threads.net.” Twitter users can also still search for individual Threads posts by using the link to any Threads post as a search term.
In addition to seemingly limiting searches for Threads links, Twitter also appears to be restricting Threads from trending on Twitter, a Meta engineer, Philip Fung, posted on Threads.
"Seems like Threads is censored from Trending," Fung said, sharing a screencap of Twitter's trending topics and pointing out that it was "unlikely" that Threads "is not in the top 30 US trends for the last day."
"Makes sense, but also shows how hard it is to stick to your principles when it is against your interests," Fung said, seemingly jabbing at Musk for censoring Threads when Musk is normally known as the anti-censorship guy.
Zuckerberg doesn't seem to mind that Twitter is potentially limiting Threads from trending, responding to Fung's tweet by joking, "Concerning" with a cry-laughing emoji. Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri responded a little more earnestly, posting, "It is what it is. More reason for us to focus on making Threads better and fast."
Meta's founder has insisted that Threads' explosive growth—instantly taking the crown from ChatGPT as the fastest-growing consumer app—has been "mostly organic."
"We haven't even turned on many promotions yet," Zuckerberg posted on Threads.
Once Meta begins promoting the app, Twitter's traffic could take an even bigger hit, Zuckerberg seems to suggest.


Is Threads a threat to Twitter?​

It's still unclear whether all those people who signed up for Threads will actually end up becoming engaged users.
Two days after Threads launched, The Verge reported that internal data showed its approximately 30 million users had collectively posted more than 95 million times and shared 190 million likes. It's a modest level of engagement, but not Twitter levels of engagement. Twitter users tweeted 500 million times a day in 2022, according to data gathered by marketing consultant David Sayce.
Mosseri has said that Threads' "goal isn't to replace Twitter," but "to create a public square for communities on Instagram that never really embraced Twitter and for communities on Twitter (and other platforms) that are interested in a less angry place for conversations, but not all of Twitter."
Meta is seemingly aiming to attract only a portion of Twitter's audience while creating a more advertiser-friendly version of Twitter—by turning Threads into a platform that Mosseri said will not "encourage" divisive political and news posts.
Seemingly in at least Mosseri's view, Twitter and Threads will likely always coexist and battle each other (and other platforms) in bids to increase user engagement and attract advertising dollars. One side seemingly gambling on suppressing divisive content, and the other seemingly gambling on not suppressing divisive content.
That version of the future makes it seem like it will be up to users to decide which platform suits their needs or if they need both platforms for different reasons. For some users dividing time between platforms, it seems like Twitter could remain a source for news, while Threads could become a preferred platform for hosting easily discoverable deep discussions.
The director of the Stanford Internet Observatory, Alex Stamos, performed an "unscientific test" to see whether his own posts got more engagement on Twitter or Threads by measuring likes and replies over a 23-hour period. He shared identical posts on each platform and "saw significantly more engagement on Threads"—where he has fewer than 10,000 followers—"than on Twitter"—where he has more than 100,000 followers.
Stamos told CNN that this informal test was enough to show him that "Twitter is done as a platform for serious tech conversations.” If other Twitter users who were initially drawn to Twitter to join discussions start to see there are better, deeper discussions happening on Threads, that could further threaten Twitter's engagement—and cause precious user seconds (that Musk has seemingly just begun to count) to instead get spent on Threads.
Perhaps the biggest threat to Twitter engagement, however, is still coming from within the app itself. Mashable recently pointed out that Twitter basically "is not a free app anymore," because formerly free features are increasingly being restricted to paid subscribers. Free users can no longer be verified with a blue checkmark, their visibility on the platform is limited, their ability to DM accounts that don't follow them was cut off, total number of tweets that can be viewed has been capped, and no one's sure what feature could be restricted next. This creates uncertainty for the majority of Twitter users—who are not paid subscribers—and increasingly, Mashable reported, Twitter seems to be giving those users a choice to either pay up or leave Twitter.
Threads could become an enticingly popular alternative platform for any users turning away from Twitter. It functions nearly identically to Twitter and makes it easy to port over Instagram followers, so many users will already have an audience built in.
And Threads has only just begun to add new features, seemingly actively responding to user feedback directly on Threads. For example, other features that Twitter users like, such as hashtags and search, are coming to Threads soon, Mosseri has confirmed on Threads.
And at least one ex-Twitter employee is sharing Threads feedback, too. Former Twitter engineer Behnam Rezaei tweeted last week a list of his recommendations to help Threads attract more Twitter users. Rezaei predicted that Threads' primary struggle to keep those users engaged would be "keeping it edgy and spontaneous like Twitter."
While Threads continued attentively listening to users, Twitter's Yaccarino has reminded users—many of which, in classic Twitter style, are dunking on her in the quote-tweets—saying that nothing can replace Twitter.
"There’s only ONE Twitter," Yaccarino tweeted. "You know it. I know it."
 

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Musk says a 50% drop in ad revenue for Twitter is causing negative cash flow​


Published: Jul 15, 2023, 5:13 PM

Alan Friedman

Musk says a 50% drop in ad revenue for Twitter is causing negative cash flow

The bad news keeps piling on for Twitter owner Elon Musk. His $44 billion investment in Twitter is just not working out yet and Mark Zuckerberg's Meta is signing up subscribers for newly minted Twitter rival Threads at a rapid pace. Threads has a huge advantage because of its Instagram integration. New Threads subscribers must have an Instagram account to join; Instagram has over 1 billion monthly active users and a large number of that platform's subscribers will open a Threads account, a process that is quick and easy to do.

Today, Musk revealed some more bad news in the form of a tweet that said, "We’re still negative cash flow, due to ~50% drop in advertising revenue plus heavy debt load. Need to reach positive cash flow before we have the luxury of anything else." Negative cash flow means exactly what it sounds like. More cash is leaving the business than is coming into it. On the other hand, he also said yesterday that it "Looks like this platform may see all-time high device user seconds usage this week."

Twitter owner Elon Musk passes along some bad news - Musk says a 50% drop in ad revenue for Twitter is causing negative cash flow

Twitter owner Elon Musk passes along some bad news

Advertisers might not be happy with the mess that Musk has created at Twitter as he monetized verification checkmarks and kept reversing company policy. He also put a cap on the number of tweets users can read in a day only to raise that cap hours later. It is this kind of instability at Twitter that has advertisers pulling back. Back in April, Musk said that advertisers were coming back and that cash flow would soon turn positive. So far, it hasn't. At the time, Musk said about his advertisers, "Almost all of them have either come back or said they’re coming back."

According to app research firm Sensor Tower, during a two-month period earlier this year, Twitter's advertising revenue plunged by 89% to $7.6 million. Compare that figure to the $71 million that the top ten Twitter advertisers spent on ads from September to October of last year just before Musk's acquisition of the platform.
 

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It was a steaming pile of 💩before he bought it & was hemorrhaging money already, he was a complete moron paying what he did for it
Yeah, he overpaid by about 3x what it was actually worth, which is why I just laugh when anyone tells me that billionaires are good businessmen just because they have a lot of money
 
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