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lol. Sony will because it's not gonna sell, man. That's why you stop making a console in the first place.

It's been outselling Switch 2 in US and Europe in recent months? Why do you think they'd kill PS5 if that's the only way they can have a device below $1000 on the market? You really are pining for Sony and Microsoft to just hand over the sub $1000 console market to Nintendo. It's not going to happen dude. Sony didn't even let Nintendo have the Japanese market for free and introduced a $350 console there, and now they will be making a handheld as well.

Once sales stagnate for PS6/PS handheld they'll stop selling.
PS5 is jailbroken but Chinese can also hack the JP edition so any language works, buy it for only $350, and then nobody buys a single game which is why sales are up. Sony's losing money every time this happens and as long as they're selling the PS5 JP edition.
Now I think Sony would have stopped making PS5 regardless but the jailbreak only guarantees it.

Japan PS5 sales are a rounding error man, let alone the amount of them that are being sold to the Chinese for jailbreaking purposes. The sales went up from like 10-12k per week in Japan to 15k or so in the last week.

The idea that they're going to stop selling PS5 because of a few thousand consoles being sold in Japan for jailbreaking purposes is retarded. New batches of consoles will just have higher firmware out of the box and probably prevent jailbreaks.

Because you can get a rough guide, PS normally always sell above 80m even with a bad gen.

Nintendo track record isnt as consistent. Never has been. But I still think it will sell well, but depends on their price

Nintendo also always sells 80m+ on handhelds, which the Switch and Switch 2 are part of. Switch 2 will easily sell over 100m.
 
Why do you think they'd kill PS5 if that's the only way they can have a device below $1000 on the market? You really are pining for Sony and Microsoft to just hand over the sub $1000 console market to Nintendo.
Nobody will want PS5 in 2027 when Sony starts talking about PS6 and PS handheld and if they keep makin an old overpriced console it'd just put further strain on their next-gen consoles.
 
Nobody will want PS5 in 2027 when Sony starts talking about PS6 and PS handheld and if they keep makin an old overpriced console it'd just put further strain on their next-gen consoles.

When PS5 will be their only way to get access to high fidelity games under $1000, why wouldn't they? As long as all the games keep releasing on PS5 it'll be just as attractive as before. Apple still sells millions of phones from last year or the year before. Because they get the same software updates and apps. You're trying to analyze this industry like someone who's mentally stuck in the 2000s, and thinks that every generation is a reset where manufacturers race to reach the highest amount of consoles sold. That shit stopped years ago, even before this AI component price drama. Part of the reason why PS has been so profitable this gen is due to lingering PS4 support, and the same goes for Nintendo with Switch 1 providing a cushion as they are getting Switch 2 off the ground.
 
When PS5 will be their only way to get access to high fidelity games under $1000, why wouldn't they? As long as all the games keep releasing on PS5 it'll be just as attractive as before.
You can create supply but you can't create demand and the demand Sony wants will be for PS6 and PS handheld. If sony just says,
"Hey everything's on PS5 don't bother upgrading." Which unlike what you think isn't what Sony wants. It'll make it more likely that both flops and can't recover. And obviously it's not gonna be "as attractive before." Sony has never even faced Nintendo with third party support before with AAA games launching day 1. Obviously that's gonna change everything because consumers will see that KH4 is there day 1, Persona 6, FF7 Revelation etc. This will easily be the hardest console launch Sony has ever had because it's also going up against Nintendo's 2027 which will be sick.

You're trying to analyze this industry like someone who's mentally stuck in the 2000s, and thinks that every generation is a reset where manufacturers race to reach the highest amount of consoles sold. That shit stopped years ago, even before this AI component price drama. Part of the reason why PS has been so profitable this gen is due to lingering PS4 support, and the same goes for Nintendo with Switch 1 providing a cushion as they are getting Switch 2 off the ground.
I already know what you think but you're dumb and naive and constantly think it's the past. I'm actually looking at this with a modern lens and Sony just doesn't have some magical bullet, man. Nintendo's biggest mistake with Switch 1 was asking for another 3D Metroid.
Sony's gen 9 mistakes were many and way bigger.
 
You can create supply but you can't create demand and the demand Sony wants will be for PS6 and PS handheld. If sony just says,
"Hey everything's on PS5 don't bother upgrading." Which unlike what you think isn't what Sony wants. It'll make it more likely that both flops and can't recover. And obviously it's not gonna be "as attractive before." Sony has never even faced Nintendo with third party support before with AAA games launching day 1. Obviously that's gonna change everything because consumers will see that KH4 is there day 1, Persona 6, FF7 Revelation etc. This will easily be the hardest console launch Sony has ever had because it's also going up against Nintendo's 2027 which will be sick.

Once again, you are analyzing the market like someone stuck in the 2000s. It literally makes zero difference to Sony whether someone buys a PS5 or a PS6 if they get the same content. Console manufacturers make their money off of content, subscription and accessory sales.

Demand for a high-end console with full third party support isn't going to evaporate next year. It'll be there just like before - and PS5 will offer that experience more than a Switch 2 will. For people who have extra cash or want to future proof their purchase more, PS6 will be around as an option. Apple doesn't care if you buy an iPhone 16 instead of an iPhone 18, they will make their money through your app spending either way.

This is not hard to imagine, again, Nintendo is still selling Switch 1 and actually introduced new Switch 1 bundles in Europe just a month ago. Apparently $500 is too much for Nintendo to risk going all in on Switch 2 and it's causing them to keep a $300 Switch 1 around, but somehow you think Sony is just going to drop the sub $1000 console market. It's delusional and just you wishcasting.

Many AAA third party games are not launching on Switch day one. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy have stopped being system sellers a long time ago, this is realistically only going to impact PlayStation's relevance in Japan but then this is counterbalanced with the fact that they will now finally have a portable solution. And even if they do launch on Switch 2, many people do not want to play graphically compromised versions of these games unless they only want to play on the go. Nintendo has been getting some of these games day 1 in Japan already and not only does it not have a meaningful impact on console sales in either direction, we can see the PS5 version of these games outselling the Switch 2 version despite roughly having an equal install base there.

It's funny as fuck that you somehow think Kingdom Hearts releasing on Switch 2 is a threat to PlayStation but the complete absence of GTA6 on Switch 2 is supposedly not a threat in the opposite direction. Only one of these games is actually going to sell systems, and it's not KH.

I already know what you think but you're dumb and naive and constantly think it's the past. I'm actually looking at this with a modern lens and Sony just doesn't have some magical bullet, man. Nintendo's biggest mistake with Switch 1 was asking for another 3D Metroid.
Sony's gen 9 mistakes were many and way bigger.

No one gives a fuck about "mistakes" - it's about the core user experience. As many mistakes as Sony has made - it hasn't stopped being what it's always been: the go-to console platform for every publisher in the business. And these so-called "mistakes" are mostly seen as such among terminally online gamers who discuss the medium more than they play. In terms of sales and results it has had zero impact.
 
You can create supply but you can't create demand and the demand Sony wants will be for PS6 and PS handheld. If sony just says,
"Hey everything's on PS5 don't bother upgrading." Which unlike what you think isn't what Sony wants. It'll make it more likely that both flops and can't recover. And obviously it's not gonna be "as attractive before." Sony has never even faced Nintendo with third party support before with AAA games launching day 1. Obviously that's gonna change everything because consumers will see that KH4 is there day 1, Persona 6, FF7 Revelation etc. This will easily be the hardest console launch Sony has ever had because it's also going up against Nintendo's 2027 which will be sick.

Persona 6 day 1 is not guaranteed when even Persona 4 won't launch day 1. :p
 
Once again, you are analyzing the market like someone stuck in the 2000s. It literally makes zero difference to Sony whether someone buys a PS5 or a PS6 if they get the same content. Console manufacturers make their money off of content, subscription and accessory sales.
All of which breaks apart because PS5 is jailbroken and the PS5 emulator. You're assuming that full jailbreak doesn't equal lost sales but it always has historically. Plus, you're assuming that Sony will put everything on PS5 because of the PS handheld. But the PS handheld can be sacrificed so Sony can put true exclusives on PS6 which might be the more painful but safer long-term bet. I think either or could happen at this point but we don't know yet. I do think AI could affect Sony's plans because then a fully secure console would be better but it'd need exclusives.

Demand for a high-end console with full third party support isn't going to evaporate next year. It'll be there just like before - and PS5 will offer that experience more than a Switch 2 will.
"High end console" and it's simply a console that has barely any exclusives and it's not a hybrid. It'll be 7 years old in 2027, nobody will think that's high end.

For people who have extra cash or want to future proof their purchase more, PS6 will be around as an option. Apple doesn't care if you buy an iPhone 16 instead of an iPhone 18, they will make their money through your app spending either way.
Stop with the retarded Apple comparisons. Apple drove Sony out of business. Consoles has never worked like smartphones and never will.
And if it does it's because one company won and there's only one left.

This is not hard to imagine, again, Nintendo is still selling Switch 1 and actually introduced new Switch 1 bundles in Europe just a month ago. Apparently $500 is too much for Nintendo to risk going all in on Switch 2 and it's causing them to keep a $300 Switch 1 around, but somehow you think Sony is just going to drop the sub $1000 console market. It's delusional and just you wishcasting.
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Many AAA third party games are not launching on Switch day one. Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy have stopped being system sellers a long time ago, this is realistically only going to impact PlayStation's relevance in Japan but then this is counterbalanced with the fact that they will now finally have a portable solution. And even if they do launch on Switch 2, many people do not want to play graphically compromised versions of these games unless they only want to play on the go. Nintendo has been getting some of these games day 1 in Japan already and not only does it not have a meaningful impact on console sales in either direction, we can see the PS5 version of these games outselling the Switch 2 version despite roughly having an equal install base there.
Third party support is obviously a global problem for Sony. Every time someone chooses Nintendo over Playstation it's really bad for Sony.
It's funny as fuck that you somehow think Kingdom Hearts releasing on Switch 2 is a threat to PlayStation but the complete absence of GTA6 on Switch 2 is supposedly not a threat in the opposite direction. Only one of these games is actually going to sell systems, and it's not KH.
Which I've already said that it's Rockstar missing tons of sales not being there day 1 but it'll come out in 2027 anyways.
You thinking it's not gonna matter when people will be able to get everything on Nintendo? Huge cope.

No one gives a fuck about "mistakes" - it's about the core user experience. As many mistakes as Sony has made - it hasn't stopped being what it's always been: the go-to console platform for every publisher in the business. And these so-called "mistakes" are mostly seen as such among terminally online gamers who discuss the medium more than they play. In terms of sales and results it has had zero impact.
The user experience is worse than ever though. People are getting hacked and complaining about the prices already and missing sales because they login and see it doesn't apply to them.

Here's a hardcore PS fan.

"I've been a majority PlayStation gamer for nearly my entire life. From the PS1 to PS5 I've been there. But now? I can't support the company that Sony has become. Like many companies they've taken the path of enshittification. From the announcement of killing discs, live service push, and dynamic pricing. I know that many are okay with what's happening and will still support Sony. That's their decision to make, but I can't support this company going forward, and it sucks. I will always be against companies taking advantage of their customers. Sony is no different.

I hope that in the future they reverse course but I don't think they will. The brand has been a big part of my life, but now I've moved on to PC as my main platform. I wish I could root for PlayStation like I did in the past, and be excited about games from them, but that appears to be over now."
 
All of which breaks apart because PS5 is jailbroken and the PS5 emulator. You're assuming that full jailbreak doesn't equal lost sales but it always has historically. Plus, you're assuming that Sony will put everything on PS5 because of the PS handheld. But the PS handheld can be sacrificed so Sony can put true exclusives on PS6 which might be the more painful but safer long-term bet. I think either or could happen at this point but we don't know yet. I do think AI could affect Sony's plans because then a fully secure console would be better but it'd need exclusives.

You really aren't beating the 2000s mentality allegations. You are grossly overestimating how much jailbreaks and emulators impact businesses in this day and age. Most people are not going to jailbreak because they want to play online, want the latest releases/patches, and because if they wanted to play shit for free or next to nothing these platforms have been offering that for years. The most popular games on every platform are already free, what good does a jailbreak do for them?

And Switch 2 is also getting jailbroken. Switch 1 emulation was so far advanced that people were playing TOTK on PC before people were playing it on their Switch. How did it harm Switch? Oh, right, barely or not at all.

Sony isn't going to sacrifice the handheld lmao. They don't spend all this time and money to make a handheld that's going to play every game only to drop it afterwards. Why the fuck would they? It helps them reach customers they couldn't before and gives them an opportunity to monetize their most diehard fans even further.

"High end console" and it's simply a console that has barely any exclusives and it's not a hybrid. It'll be 7 years old in 2027, nobody will think that's high end.

It's a full console generation ahead of Switch 2 in terms of power. And who cares about exclusives, people have always been buying PlayStation for third party games. Nintendo now finally getting worse (and often more expensive) versions of those same games won't make any difference. Someone who just plays COD and 2K isn't going to play a worse version of those games on Nintendo, and they won't care about Nintendo's games.

If you think nobody will view PS5 as high end in 2027, then I have some bad news about Switch 2 for you.

Stop with the retarded Apple comparisons. Apple drove Sony out of business. Consoles has never worked like smartphones and never will.
And if it does it's because one company won and there's only one left.

You're stupid as fuck if you think the console business model in this AI-induced component crisis is going to operate exactly like it did in the 2000s. Consoles didn't operate like that before because there were massive generational leaps possible every 5 years or so. Now some people can barely tell the difference between PS4 and PS5. The diminishing return will be even greater between PS5 and PS6. You have bozos like yourself who think GTA6 will be possible on Switch 2. Why the fuck would everything hinge around dropping a new generation every 7 years in such an environment where the latest and greatest games are supposedly feasible on hardware that's two generations behind?

4 GB of LPDDR4 RAM vs 16 GB GDDR6 SDRAM 🤡

What's your point? Nintendo is the one pushing Switch 1 in 2026, not me. It's almost like you can get away with selling an outdated device because it still has thousands of games that have gone unplayed by millions of people, and is still getting new releases till this day.

Third party support is obviously a global problem for Sony. Every time someone chooses Nintendo over Playstation it's really bad for Sony.

Yeah, except in reality pretty much no one is choosing Switch 2 over PlayStation for third party releases (the ones that make money at least). Switch already had Fortnite, Minecraft and so on. It never made any real impact. You are moronic if you think shit like Pragmata and Kingdom Hearts will make a difference when Fortnite couldn't.

Which I've already said that it's Rockstar missing tons of sales not being there day 1 but it'll come out in 2027 anyways.
You thinking it's not gonna matter when people will be able to get everything on Nintendo? Huge cope.

Except they're not missing "tons of sales". There are no AAA releases that launched on Switch 2 day one where it made a noteworthy contribution to the overall sales. And this will be even less so the case for GTA6, a game for which people will literally buy a whole system if necessary.

"When people will be able to get everything on Nintendo" is the huge cope here, it's never going to happen. You're delulu if you think GTA6 will launch on Switch 2 next year when GTA5 and RDR2 haven't even landed on Nintendo yet.

The user experience is worse than ever though. People are getting hacked and complaining about the prices already and missing sales because they login and see it doesn't apply to them.

Here's a hardcore PS fan.

"I've been a majority PlayStation gamer for nearly my entire life. From the PS1 to PS5 I've been there. But now? I can't support the company that Sony has become. Like many companies they've taken the path of enshittification. From the announcement of killing discs, live service push, and dynamic pricing. I know that many are okay with what's happening and will still support Sony. That's their decision to make, but I can't support this company going forward, and it sucks. I will always be against companies taking advantage of their customers. Sony is no different.

I hope that in the future they reverse course but I don't think they will. The brand has been a big part of my life, but now I've moved on to PC as my main platform. I wish I could root for PlayStation like I did in the past, and be excited about games from them, but that appears to be over now."

You spend way too much time on incel boards like 4chan and think it represents overall sentiments. I could also scour the internet and try to find posts by supposed Nintendo fans complaining about shit they're doing. In the end we can see the real world results in their earnings reports. When people spammed the Switch 2 chat with "lower the price" - we saw record sales. This whole gen people online were crying about PC ports and GAAS push by PlayStation, and yet they still sold 100m+ consoles despite all the economic setbacks and they are making more revenue and profit than ever before.

The user experience of knowing every major third party game will be on your platform day one and the fact that it's the priority target platform to optimize the game for in 99% of cases is left unchanged. There's a reason PlayStation users don't have to cope and jerk off to rumors about GTA6 being tested on their platform. Or even smaller titles. It's a given that the game would come to PlayStation day one.
 
And who cares about exclusives
The cool thing is on Nintendo people will have both exclusives and third party.
Why the fuck would everything hinge around dropping a new generation every 7 years in such an environment where the latest and greatest games are supposedly feasible on hardware that's two generations behind?
Because that's how consoles have always worked and it's not gonna change because consoles ain't phones.
 
The cool thing is on Nintendo people will have both exclusives and third party.

You're assuming these people who spent their lives playing shit like COD, EAFC and Assassin's Creed and haven't touched a single Nintendo game will suddenly start caring enough about the latter to accept a huge quality/performance hit on the former. They won't.

Because that's how consoles have always worked and it's not gonna change because consoles ain't phones.

It has already changed. It changed back when generational leaps started becoming less and less noticeable and when all console platforms basically went the PC route of ensuring everything will be forward compatible. PS4 is still not dead and PS6 is around the corner. Switch 2 launched a year ago and somehow Nintendo is introducing new Switch 1 bundles for Europe.

And if you wanna talk about "how consoles always worked" - never in the history of consoles did people move from a high-end console to a lower-powered handheld in a meaningful number. And never in the history of consoles did Nintendo manage to steal away users from PlayStation. The only company that managed to do that was Xbox.

Either way, consoles won't work like this anymore when the only way to launch a new console is to attach a $1000+ price tag to it. The reason it worked for consoles in the past is because they could launch the new console at the same price or at maybe $100 more than the previous console launched at, and the gap between the new model and the current model would only be $100 or so. There was absolutely no reason to keep the old hardware around or buy the old hardware. There will be this time around.
 
You're assuming these people who spent their lives playing shit like COD, EAFC and Assassin's Creed and haven't touched a single Nintendo game
It's funny you pretend people don't care about Nintendo now. Except Metroid I guess all of their IPs has grown.

It has already changed. It changed back when generational leaps started becoming less and less noticeable and when all console platforms basically went the PC route of ensuring everything will be forward compatible. PS4 is still not dead and PS6 is around the corner. Switch 2 launched a year ago and somehow Nintendo is introducing new Switch 1 bundles for Europe.
You mean... Nintendo was right about graphics all along and they were smart to chase IPs instead.
I agree but that doesn't give Sony any advantages.

And if you wanna talk about "how consoles always worked" - never in the history of consoles did people move from a high-end console to a lower-powered handheld in a meaningful number. And never in the history of consoles did Nintendo manage to steal away users from PlayStation. The only company that managed to do that was Xbox.
Can't believe you're still pretending a hybrid console is a handheld lol. Xbox is dead and third party support is the real difference maker.
Sony launching 2 too expensive consoles just happened out of their own greed honestly.

Either way, consoles won't work like this anymore when the only way to launch a new console is to attach a $1000+ price tag to it. The reason it worked for consoles in the past is because they could launch the new console at the same price or at maybe $100 more than the previous console launched at, and the gap between the new model and the current model would only be $100 or so. There was absolutely no reason to keep the old hardware around or buy the old hardware. There will be this time around.
There's no reason to stick around. Sony can ask for whatever prices they want for HW or SW but consumers don't have to stay when the NS2 solution is right there.
 
The cool thing is on Nintendo people will have both exclusives and third party.

Because that's how consoles have always worked and it's not gonna change because consoles ain't phones.

Nintendo people like you are still making imaginary shit up to cope with the fact that third parties are still skipping or launching delayed.

Not even TimDogg is this delusional.
 
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It's funny you pretend people don't care about Nintendo now. Except Metroid I guess all of their IPs has grown.
Despite not being their most recent release, a pretty recent one (Metroid Dread) is the best selling title in the series.

Can't believe you're still pretending a hybrid console is a handheld lol.
A hybrid is a handheld console (with tv out).

There's no reason to stick around. Sony can ask for whatever prices they want for HW or SW but consumers don't have to stay when the NS2 solution is right there.
Sony has the larger active userbase any console brand ever had and keeps growing year after year.

Switch and Switch 2 game catalog didn't make them move away, PS active userbase kept growing.

Switch and Switch 2 had the unique selling point of the portability, something that was partly addressed by PS Portal and their upcoming portable will properly address by running the games natively.

Seems PS players won't need to leave the PS ecosystem to have portable games running natively, without the fidelity loss of Switch 1 & 2 and pretty likely featuring crossbuy, so they wouldn't need to buy again for the portable the games they already own. So with the next Sony portable the PS players will have less incentives to move to Nintendo than they had before with Switch and Switch 2.

Regarding game prices, in general PS has bigger and faster discounts, and also have the PS+ option to rent and play the games at a cheaper cost.

Regarding hardware, PS4 players had no rush to upgrade because most PS5 games were crossgen. And rising costs lead to think pretty likely most if not all PS6 games released until at least PS7 release will be crossgen with PS5, so if PS6 hardware is too expensive for them at release again they won't need to rush to upgrade because they already will be playable in the hardware they alredy own.
 
Despite not being their most recent release, a pretty recent one (Metroid Dread) is the best selling title in the series.
Yeah, the 2D Metroid series has great games and way better reputation. And it's around 3m so that's still not huge sales compared to the monster gains other IPs have been doing.
3D Metroid? Not so much. MP1 is at best an old school masterpiece and there's nothing wrong with that but MP2 and MP3 haven't been played by most and I doubt most would want to even if they were available because with Samus you're stuck with only 1 weapon the entire game and that's seen as boring today when there's shooting games with tons of weapons available.
Retro should just start making TPS games. Not only would that sell but they'd be bigger system sellers than 3D Metroid ever could be.

A hybrid is a handheld console (with tv out).
He's just saying that because NS1 already did it and it did it by being a hybrid console.
Nothing Sony is doing is actually countering that.

Seems PS players won't need to leave the PS ecosystem to have portable games running natively, without the fidelity loss of Switch 1 & 2 and pretty likely featuring crossbuy, so they wouldn't need to buy again for the portable the games they already own. So with the next Sony portable the PS players will have less incentives to move to Nintendo than they had before with Switch and Switch 2.
I think Nintendo's exclusives are simply way too big and people have been buying physical/digital on Nintendo since 2017.
Losing physical is just a huge blow. Starting 2028 all games will only have Nintendo physical, show Nintendo logos, have real physical editions and collector's edition only available on Nintendo.
 
It's funny you pretend people don't care about Nintendo now. Except Metroid I guess all of their IPs has grown.

I'm not saying people don't care about Nintendo. Plenty of people, millions of them, do. But you act like Nintendo IP has universal appeal and eventually everyone will "see the light" and care about them. Spoiler: they won't. Gun and ball gamers will likely have zero interest in Nintendo IP or anything outside of their competitive multiplayer games for that matter.

You mean... Nintendo was right about graphics all along and they were smart to chase IPs instead.
I agree but that doesn't give Sony any advantages.

Nintendo wasn't right about graphics "all along". There's been a long time where PlayStation and Xbox's pursuit of graphics paid off for them. In case of the former, it's resulted in them now being viewed as the default console platform by the industry and consumers alike. Now that hardware developments are slowing down and we're hitting the point of diminishing returns, sure, the gap might start to matter less and Nintendo's reluctance to push graphics and costs alike might start to pay off. But the perception won't change overnight.

All of that just makes it even funnier though that you think now is the right time for Nintendo to get back into chasing graphics and making a high-end console.

Also chase IPs instead of graphics? Wtf are you talking about man? Nintendo has been relying on the same IPs they had back in the early 2000s. Outside of Splatoon, which launched over a decade ago, they haven't really released any new successful IP in ages. Some of them have been revitalized or skyrocketed to new heights like Zelda and Animal Crossing, but acting like all of that was a calculated effort is ridiculous. Even if BOTW or TOTK didn't pop off they would still be making Zelda games, because they've been doing so for almost 40 years. It's a lot easier and more cost effective to just keep using the same IP over and over.

Between the two Sony is the one that has been more aggressively trying to chase creating new IPs that can not only be used for gaming but cross media as well.

Can't believe you're still pretending a hybrid console is a handheld lol. Xbox is dead and third party support is the real difference maker.
Sony launching 2 too expensive consoles just happened out of their own greed honestly.

Because it is a handheld that you can just dock to a TV. This is evident from the fact that a handheld-only version of the device exists. If Nintendo had to choose between dropping either the handheld side or the docked side of the console, they wouldn't even hesitate to drop the latter.

You like to pretend it's like a PS5 you can also take on the go. It's not. Its hardware profile is entirely designed around it being used as a handheld. It's lacking in power compared to a home console just like the handhelds of old were. The only difference is that now game development has been standardized to the point where it's far easier to port games over between different ecosystems and hardware profiles.

Anyway, glad you agree that third party support is the real difference maker. Which is why PlayStation will be fine against Nintendo because unlike the latter, they actually have proper third party support. Nintendo makes up for its spotty third party support with its own output.

Also the price of the PS6 has nothing to do with greed and everything to do with macroeconomic factors that will impact Nintendo too.

There's no reason to stick around. Sony can ask for whatever prices they want for HW or SW but consumers don't have to stay when the NS2 solution is right there.

NS2 is not a solution to anyone who wants a home console and cares about third party games primarily. Especially for people who already have a PS5. There's way more reason for someone to stick with their PS5 than to switch over to a Switch 2 lol.

He's just saying that because NS1 already did it and it did it by being a hybrid console.
Nothing Sony is doing is actually countering that.

It's not about countering. Right now PlayStation has NO handheld solution for over a decade other than the PS Portal, which requires a console to function. Obviously this is a huge missed opportunity or weakness in their hardware lineup. Not only do you have countries like Japan where handheld gaming has been dominating for ages, but the rest of the world is likely to move more in that direction as well. Rent costs are going through the roof, the idea that everyone is going to have a huge living room with a TV that they can plug a console into is becoming less ubiquitous, people in general are way more used to having personalized content that they can always take with them on the go due to smartphones and algorithms etc vs the old days of having standardized and shared content that would be confined to your house.

Them releasing a handheld is not an attempt to cockblock or attack Nintendo, it's to address a weakness in their ecosystem. And now that they'd no longer need to create a whole separate development and content curation pipeline as they will just be shared with PS4/5/6, there's really no reason for them not to do it. It'll be an extension of what's already there, rather than something that has to be built up and maintained separately of their core product.

I think Nintendo's exclusives are simply way too big and people have been buying physical/digital on Nintendo since 2017.
Losing physical is just a huge blow. Starting 2028 all games will only have Nintendo physical, show Nintendo logos, have real physical editions and collector's edition only available on Nintendo.

Look, I agree that Nintendo is going to have the physical market all to itself moving forward but the people who care about this are definitely in the minority and this will only trend further in that direction. Physical game sales might be bottoming out soon and not decline further, but I also don't really see a path to a resurgence for physical like we're seeing with CDs and vinyl because of the simple nature of games and that file sizes keep expanding. A 2h movie made in 2005 will take up just as much data as a 2h movie made in 2035, and a 40m album made in 1980 can be pressed on a vinyl just like one made in 2025 with the same length. But with games file sizes keep expanding and already on Nintendo the bulk of physical games are mostly just license keys.
 
@heroeskillrats really is scared of the PS handheld. All this cope, its insane.

I don't think he's scared of the handheld as much as he desperately wants Nintendo to get payback on Sony for what happened in the 90s-2000s. Probably was the only Nintendo kid in a sea of PlayStation/Xbox kids.
 
@heroeskillrats really is scared of the PS handheld. All this cope, its insane.

Its an ongoing thing for years.
Anytime i mentioned a PSP3 or sony's next gen having a hybrid. I was told by people its impossible to have the tech play PS4,PS5,PS6..

You can go back to the threads on here and gaf and theres always a bunch of people making the weirdest excuses, CONSTANTLY about how it cant work, wont work. And then look at Vita.

I dont think disingenuous people are self aware at how obvious they are when they hate a company, and want to act like they are giving genuine neutral information about them...

The bullshit is easy to see through lol
 
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Obviously this is a huge missed opportunity or weakness in their hardware lineup. Not only do you have countries like Japan where handheld gaming has been dominating for ages, but the rest of the world is likely to move more in that direction as well. Rent costs are going through the roof, the idea that everyone is going to have a huge living room with a TV that they can plug a console into is becoming less ubiquitous,
How many times does it need to be explained Sony making a handheld isn't a magical solution when everything Nintendo offers is way superior and they have massive advantages? You'll see this in 2027 by the way. Stop writing long cope posts about this shit.
 
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