PlayStation is in serious trouble if they don’t reverse course

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Giving how the gaming industry is heading more mobile w traditional console going away & hybrid handhelds taking the place of console where does PlayStation stands against its competitor imo there position in a awkward & dangerous spot within gaming & hardware.

Today ex 3rd party relationship joined Nintendo prior to the Switch 2 release.



With Nintendo doubling down on it’s hardware hybrid handheld console it seems like Nintendo is head for a major cadence the first 3 years w fans speculating a new smash or smash dlc, a new Pokémon already announced for 2025, a new 3D Mario speculated & a new Mario Kart 3/4 out of these options are very likely to release the first 1-2 years w other games like a new Metroid to be rumored to be release in its first year. A new Animal crossing & Splatoon would also not be shocking to be release its first 1-3 years of its life cycle.

Where does this put PlayStation. PC ports already converting PS gamers to migrate to other platforms as PS no longer has permanent exclusive to compete & strengthens its platform & storefront. And Sony reporting down year over year just after 4 years of PS5 being in the market (you can argue the first 2 years didn’t allow PlayStation to truly sell PS5 which the down year is shocking but can explain the lack of first party exclusive from first party PS studios having 1 or no major games in 2023 & 2024 making Sony miss 2023 targets of 25 million PS5 sold which would break all time record for PlayStation.

I fully expect Nintendo with its crazy lineup to easily break 25 million once again showing Sony wrong that the old models for profits proves to be the reliable correct strategy to follow. (I think Nintendo can sell 25 million consoles multiple times in its first 1-2 years maybe even 3 years if they’re line up crazy.

Nintendo Switch 2 is rumored to be in the same power as the PS4 which will allow Nintendo to capitalize on 3rd party that never release on Nintendo console & what where once exclusive to PS previous, will see much aggressive competition from Nintendo with devs now releasing most if not all 3rd party games on Nintendo & PS.

And depending on 3rd party relationship. We could see a Nintendo that has exclusive Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy (if Nintendo is aggressive which I do see happening) skipping PS which would be crazy all while PS continues to lower there wall garden & further allow there platform & storefront to diminish & become obsolete & relevant long term.

Sony is putting themselves in the same position as Xbox. I could see a future where PS is all in PC ignoring all negative effects slowly boiling themselves like a frog where devs focus on PC & Nintendo & if Steam wanted to replace PS they would push Steamdeck as the hybrid console that can play PC, Xbox & PS games all in one platform. Steam also making new games would further push there already dominate & almost defacto platform & storefront in gaming.

It will be interesting to see how PlayStation navigate while not having exclusive to make its platform & storefront a defacto platform. Even if Sony announce a PS6 or if the PS6 is a hybrid handheld PS no longer has permanent exclusive all of there first party games are time exclusive & there will be a Steamdeck that can play those games once the get ported while also having the benefit of PC & having cheaper prices from sales, no pay online subscription plus Steam has its Valve permanent exclusive & exclusive PC games that don’t go to PS.

Also if Xbox somehow builds a open PC hybrid handheld that allows you to play Xbox, PS & PC games in 1 platform MS would ironically be more invested in hardware then PS themselves as a PS console would only have PS games missing Xbox games be it Xbox games get ported 1 year later & PC games.

Imo Sony is dumb for following Xbox disastrously failed strategy. Sony made there slow death bed & MS is probably laughing Sony decided to drop there wall garden no longer allowing PS to fully kill off Xbox. Unless Sony changes plan I doubt I continue investing on the PS platform & storefront that has to many holes & cautious signs for me to fully invest in the long run. I’m already in the procces of fully migrating to PC & Nintendo all I’m waiting for is if PS next leader continues this path that has diminished, harm & out risk of the PS brand identity & if the Switch 2 will be at the power of a PS4 which can play beautiful games like Uncharted 4, TLOU2, GOT, GOW if it does it will be an easy decision where to invest my money in the long run on a safe platform since I don’t ever see Steam or Nintendo ever dropping there wall gardens & seeking other methods such as mobile, live service, park, cross media, toys & other methods for increase profits & expansion that won’t harm, diminish its identity or put them at risk of Nintendo ability to be highly competitive.
 

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They will do just fine. Most gamers don't do that kind of reasoning. And besides with backwards compatibility you have less incentives to switch your main platform. Spencer was right when he claimed they lost the worst possible generation

If I had a PS4 and wanted to upgrade all I need to do is sell my console and spend 300 bucks at most to get a PS5 with no downside, hell most of my game collection will be upgraded.
 

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A lot of great points.

Sony ARE following the Xbox strategy, the only difference is a couple of months for their SP titles. Soon the library will have parity with PC besides 1 or 2 titles.

A new customer could just get a PC if they don't care about that particular game that is not ported yet.

The PRO is also a waste because all the games will be on PC with scalable graphics anyway so you lose a selling point.

Sony had a winning strategy but they threw it all away to chase new customers that don't exist. It's like Phil and his billions of gamers 🙄
 

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A lot of great points.

Sony ARE following the Xbox strategy, the only difference is a couple of months for their SP titles. Soon the library will have parity with PC besides 1 or 2 titles.

A new customer could just get a PC if they don't care about that particular game that is not ported yet.

The PRO is also a waste because all the games will be on PC with scalable graphics anyway so you lose a selling point.

Sony had a winning strategy but they threw it all away to chase new customers that don't exist. It's like Phil and his billions of gamers 🙄

Pretty much.

Also, losing people like Gio Corsi, Adam Boyes and other passionate people who made the PS4 so massive was a huge mistake.

So now you see they have moved away from Sony. Particularly with Gio going to Nintendo, it shows what these people value.
 

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A lot of great points.

Sony ARE following the Xbox strategy, the only difference is a couple of months for their SP titles. Soon the library will have parity with PC besides 1 or 2 titles.

A new customer could just get a PC if they don't care about that particular game that is not ported yet.

The PRO is also a waste because all the games will be on PC with scalable graphics anyway so you lose a selling point.

Sony had a winning strategy but they threw it all away to chase new customers that don't exist. It's like Phil and his billions of gamers 🙄
Cost of owning a capable PC that will last years VS a $500 capable machine that’s built to run 1st party games and is backward compatible? Whats that, like $3k vs $500?
 
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A lot of great points.

Sony ARE following the Xbox strategy, the only difference is a couple of months for their SP titles. Soon the library will have parity with PC besides 1 or 2 titles.

A new customer could just get a PC if they don't care about that particular game that is not ported yet.

The PRO is also a waste because all the games will be on PC with scalable graphics anyway so you lose a selling point.

Sony had a winning strategy but they threw it all away to chase new customers that don't exist. It's like Phil and his billions of gamers 🙄
I agree with all the points, except I like the Pro. Ill be buying it day 1, its just an extra for certain fans like myself
 
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Pretty much.

Also, losing people like Gio Corsi, Adam Boyes and other passionate people who made the PS4 so massive was a huge mistake.

So now you see they have moved away from Sony. Particularly with Gio going to Nintendo, it shows what these people value.
Yes. They should of kept alot of people who made PS4 such a success
 
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Cost of owning a capable PC that will last years VS a $500 capable machine that’s built to run 1st party games and is backward compatible? Whats that, like $3k vs $500?
So? PC and laptops are getting sold to play Sony games. It's not just about the money. There's a wide range of prices. I don't think only rich people are playing Helldivers or Palworld 🙄

I agree with all the points, except I like the Pro. Ill be buying it day 1, its just an extra for certain fans like myself
I was mostly talking about using graphics as a selling point for the Pro when all the comparisons will compare it with the PC version instead of the regular PS5. Barely any difference or parity.
 

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They will do just fine. Most gamers don't do that kind of reasoning. And besides with backwards compatibility you have less incentives to switch your main platform. Spencer was right when he claimed they lost the worst possible generation

If I had a PS4 and wanted to upgrade all I need to do is sell my console and spend 300 bucks at most to get a PS5 with no downside, hell most of my game collection will be upgraded.
X360 owners also switched to XONE by inertia, but this momentum quickly ended when XBOX began to lose ground due to the launch of GamePass and PC releases.

The Series generation demonstrates even worse dynamics, and this is despite very loud and expensive marketing, and the factor of PS5 shortage at the start of the generation (XSX was much easier to buy, with a short waiting period, and XSS was freely available on the shelves). And the presence of the purchased library of X360 and XONE owners did not save the situation, perhaps it only slowed the fall a little.

So if Sony doesn't return to its successful and time-tested policy, PS will suffer the fate of XBOX, but it will take longer, due to the greater safety margin of the PS brand.
 

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Giving how the gaming industry is heading more mobile w traditional console going away & hybrid handhelds taking the place of console where does PlayStation stands against its competitor imo there position in a awkward & dangerous spot within gaming & hardware.

Today ex 3rd party relationship joined Nintendo prior to the Switch 2 release.



With Nintendo doubling down on it’s hardware hybrid handheld console it seems like Nintendo is head for a major cadence the first 3 years w fans speculating a new smash or smash dlc, a new Pokémon already announced for 2025, a new 3D Mario speculated & a new Mario Kart 3/4 out of these options are very likely to release the first 1-2 years w other games like a new Metroid to be rumored to be release in its first year. A new Animal crossing & Splatoon would also not be shocking to be release its first 1-3 years of its life cycle.

Where does this put PlayStation. PC ports already converting PS gamers to migrate to other platforms as PS no longer has permanent exclusive to compete & strengthens its platform & storefront. And Sony reporting down year over year just after 4 years of PS5 being in the market (you can argue the first 2 years didn’t allow PlayStation to truly sell PS5 which the down year is shocking but can explain the lack of first party exclusive from first party PS studios having 1 or no major games in 2023 & 2024 making Sony miss 2023 targets of 25 million PS5 sold which would break all time record for PlayStation.

I fully expect Nintendo with its crazy lineup to easily break 25 million once again showing Sony wrong that the old models for profits proves to be the reliable correct strategy to follow. (I think Nintendo can sell 25 million consoles multiple times in its first 1-2 years maybe even 3 years if they’re line up crazy.

Nintendo Switch 2 is rumored to be in the same power as the PS4 which will allow Nintendo to capitalize on 3rd party that never release on Nintendo console & what where once exclusive to PS previous, will see much aggressive competition from Nintendo with devs now releasing most if not all 3rd party games on Nintendo & PS.

And depending on 3rd party relationship. We could see a Nintendo that has exclusive Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy (if Nintendo is aggressive which I do see happening) skipping PS which would be crazy all while PS continues to lower there wall garden & further allow there platform & storefront to diminish & become obsolete & relevant long term.

Sony is putting themselves in the same position as Xbox. I could see a future where PS is all in PC ignoring all negative effects slowly boiling themselves like a frog where devs focus on PC & Nintendo & if Steam wanted to replace PS they would push Steamdeck as the hybrid console that can play PC, Xbox & PS games all in one platform. Steam also making new games would further push there already dominate & almost defacto platform & storefront in gaming.

It will be interesting to see how PlayStation navigate while not having exclusive to make its platform & storefront a defacto platform. Even if Sony announce a PS6 or if the PS6 is a hybrid handheld PS no longer has permanent exclusive all of there first party games are time exclusive & there will be a Steamdeck that can play those games once the get ported while also having the benefit of PC & having cheaper prices from sales, no pay online subscription plus Steam has its Valve permanent exclusive & exclusive PC games that don’t go to PS.

Also if Xbox somehow builds a open PC hybrid handheld that allows you to play Xbox, PS & PC games in 1 platform MS would ironically be more invested in hardware then PS themselves as a PS console would only have PS games missing Xbox games be it Xbox games get ported 1 year later & PC games.

Imo Sony is dumb for following Xbox disastrously failed strategy. Sony made there slow death bed & MS is probably laughing Sony decided to drop there wall garden no longer allowing PS to fully kill off Xbox. Unless Sony changes plan I doubt I continue investing on the PS platform & storefront that has to many holes & cautious signs for me to fully invest in the long run. I’m already in the procces of fully migrating to PC & Nintendo all I’m waiting for is if PS next leader continues this path that has diminished, harm & out risk of the PS brand identity & if the Switch 2 will be at the power of a PS4 which can play beautiful games like Uncharted 4, TLOU2, GOT, GOW if it does it will be an easy decision where to invest my money in the long run on a safe platform since I don’t ever see Steam or Nintendo ever dropping there wall gardens & seeking other methods such as mobile, live service, park, cross media, toys & other methods for increase profits & expansion that won’t harm, diminish its identity or put them at risk of Nintendo ability to be highly competitive.

Playstation is now run by bean counters. Playstation as we know it has long since disappeared.

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Cost of owning a capable PC that will last years VS a $500 capable machine that’s built to run 1st party games and is backward compatible? Whats that, like $3k vs $500?
You can build a decent PC for $1,000, given that new hardware will be released soon and there is no semiconductor shortage factor.

In the main markets, such as the USA, Canada, and Germany, hardware prices are more affordable and there are often various discounts (in other countries outside the EU, prices are higher).

Also, according to my observations, more and more people are starting to steal games, and they call it an advantage of PCs (at the same time they talk about confronting greedy publishers), and an opportunity to compensate for the cost of more expensive hardware.

Keep in mind that in 2026, SteamDeck 2.0 will be released, with a price below cost, theoretical power at the PS5 level, and all the advantages of a PC (with "free" games, including Sony games).
 

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And Sony reporting down year over year just after 4 years of PS5 being in the market (you can argue the first 2 years didn’t allow PlayStation to truly sell PS5 which the down year is shocking but can explain the lack of first party exclusive from first party PS studios having 1 or no major games in 2023 & 2024 making Sony miss 2023 targets of 25 million PS5 sold which would break all time record for PlayStation.
Sony isn't reporting down YoY. In FY23 they performed better than FY22 in almost all areas in all quarters:

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And decreases would be normal because the industry still has been going back to normality after the covid bump. In the specific case of hardware, the yearly sales of any console make a curve, with the peak year being normally between 2nd and 5th year. In case of PS5 the peak it should have been FY23, meaning, should go down after that every year.

But because of being the normal case of any console lifecycle (same reason of why Switch hardware sales keep decreasing).

I fully expect Nintendo with its crazy lineup to easily break 25 million once again showing Sony wrong that the old models for profits proves to be the reliable correct strategy to follow. (I think Nintendo can sell 25 million consoles multiple times in its first 1-2 years maybe even 3 years if they’re line up crazy.

Nintendo Switch 2 is rumored to be in the same power as the PS4 which will allow Nintendo to capitalize on 3rd party that never release on Nintendo console & what where once exclusive to PS previous, will see much aggressive competition from Nintendo with devs now releasing most if not all 3rd party games on Nintendo & PS.

And depending on 3rd party relationship. We could see a Nintendo that has exclusive Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy (if Nintendo is aggressive which I do see happening) skipping PS which would be crazy all while PS continues to lower there wall garden & further allow there platform & storefront to diminish & become obsolete & relevant long term.

Sony is putting themselves in the same position as Xbox.
No, Sony is the most successful company in console gaming, Xbox is the last one in the race. They have very different strategies and very different results.

I could see a future where PS is all in PC ignoring all negative effects slowly boiling themselves like a frog
The evidence says there are no negative effects so far, in any case there are positive effects.

It will be interesting to see how PlayStation navigate while not having exclusive to make its platform & storefront a defacto platform. Even if Sony announce a PS6 or if the PS6 is a hybrid handheld PS no longer has permanent exclusive all of there first party games are time exclusive & there will be a Steamdeck that can play those games once the get ported while also having the benefit of PC & having cheaper prices from sales, no pay online subscription plus Steam has its Valve permanent exclusive & exclusive PC games that don’t go to PS.
Sony is already becoming one of the top PC publishers with mostly PC ports of old games and the old Destiny 2. Adding more PC ports of old game and more successful new GaaS, they'll become one of the top publishers on PC. I don't think they'll go day one on PC with all their games (I think new SP games will continue being released 2+ years later), but if they do it maybe even the top 1 publisher on PC.

That would mean they would be the leaders of both console and PC gaming.

Also if Xbox somehow builds a open PC hybrid handheld that allows you to play Xbox, PS & PC games in 1 platform MS would ironically be more invested in hardware then PS themselves as a PS console would only have PS games missing Xbox games be it Xbox games get ported 1 year later & PC games.
I think MS will announce soon their PC handheld featuring Windows, featuring their store but being open to install there Steam, Epic Store, potential future PC PSN store, emulators and so on.

I think Sony will do it some years later, releasing it as a PS Portal successor for PS6 that also includes cloud gaming and running natively minimum Sony's PC and mobile games.

Imo Sony is dumb for following Xbox disastrously failed strategy.
Sony isn't following the Xbox strategy. They have a different one that is way more successful.

Sony made there slow death bed & MS is probably laughing Sony decided to drop there wall garden no longer allowing PS to fully kill off Xbox. Unless Sony changes plan I doubt I continue investing on the PS platform & storefront that has to many holes & cautious signs for me to fully invest in the long run. I’m already in the procces of fully migrating to PC & Nintendo all I’m waiting for is if PS next leader continues this path that has diminished, harm & out risk of the PS brand identity & if the Switch 2 will be at the power of a PS4 which can play beautiful games like Uncharted 4, TLOU2, GOT, GOW if it does it will be an easy decision where to invest my money in the long run on a safe platform since I don’t ever see Steam or Nintendo ever dropping there wall gardens & seeking other methods such as mobile, live service, park, cross media, toys & other methods for increase profits & expansion that won’t harm, diminish its identity or put them at risk of Nintendo ability to be highly competitive.
Even if Sony grew their walled garden breaking several records in gaming history for any console maker and they are broke sales records with their 1st party games on console almost every recent year (2020, 2022, 2023), that wallen garden won't be big enough to make profitable big non-GaaS SP AAA games that had sales of Days Gone, Bloodborne, Death Stranding, Returnal, Demon's Souls or Sackboy now that big AAA budgets are going $300M-$400M, because they'd need over 10M copies to become profitable.

And they work in over two dozens big games at the same time. So they need extra revenue. GaaS are becoming too huge in console, and also PC and mobile are bigger markets than PS. So Sony is expanding their growth in GaaS, PC and mobile (areas where they already have been since forever btw, even if with a more secondary approach).

They run a business that need to keep profitable and with a healthy revenue and userbase growth. That's their priority, not to make happy some fanboys who are angry because someone else now can also play their games. For them GaaS, PC and mobile are huge markets -almost new for them- where they can grow a lot in terms of userbase, revenue and profit. So they'll go for it. Which is also compatible with to continue growing in console as they did in recent years.

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In the left there's the PS Studios head (back then known as SCE Worldwide Studios) who started the strategy of expanding PS 1st party games to PC and GaaS, and greenlighting many of the GaaS, remasters, remakes and PC ports we saw recently.

In the right there's the guy in charge of porting TLOUP1 remake (greenlighted by Yoshida), Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Legacy of Thieves to PC.
 
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They will do just fine. Most gamers don't do that kind of reasoning. And besides with backwards compatibility you have less incentives to switch your main platform. Spencer was right when he claimed they lost the worst possible generation

If I had a PS4 and wanted to upgrade all I need to do is sell my console and spend 300 bucks at most to get a PS5 with no downside, hell most of my game collection will be upgraded.
Forwards compatibility is the killer. Why upgrade from a PS4/pro when I can still play the most popular titles?
Upgrade to a PS5 for; returnal and ratchet. That's not enough incentive.

OT: Op, call me a doomer but I think it's too late for any course correction to have a meaningful impact. Yes, Sony need to change course, they need to return to tradition and reject the modern AAA industry as soon as possible.
Leave behind the politics on both sides that the common man is sick of.
Leave behind the majority of games being high budget.
Leave behind the chasing of cross platforms.

Return to; high powered console at a reasonable price with quick turnaround games and reduced the dev time from 7 years to 18 months. The time to triangle this gen is a joke.
Rebuild the A/AA markets.
Revamp and resurrect old IPs instead of letting them sit dormant.

Return to being Sony 1994 and not Microsoft 2014.
 

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Forwards compatibility is the killer. Why upgrade from a PS4/pro when I can still play the most popular titles?
Upgrade to a PS5 for; returnal and ratchet. That's not enough incentive.

OT: Op, call me a doomer but I think it's too late for any course correction to have a meaningful impact. Yes, Sony need to change course, they need to return to tradition and reject the modern AAA industry as soon as possible.
Leave behind the politics on both sides that the common man is sick of.
Leave behind the majority of games being high budget.
Leave behind the chasing of cross platforms.

Return to; high powered console at a reasonable price with quick turnaround games and reduced the dev time from 7 years to 18 months. The time to triangle this gen is a joke.
Rebuild the A/AA markets.
Revamp and resurrect old IPs instead of letting them sit dormant.

Return to being Sony 1994 and not Microsoft 2014.
I think it would be better to stop making -at least most of- their games bigger and bigger and instead scale back to make more shorter, 10-30 hours long games, but why do you want Sony to stop focusing making AAA games and focus on indie sized games instead? Their best 1st and 3rd selling games on their platform are the big ass ones, not the indies.

People in this forums are constantly crying saying that Sony haz no games when they have a record amount of games under development at the same time, and also say that their smaller projects "don't count".

And well, AA and even many indie games take way more than 18 months to be made, this isn't realistic at all to ask Sony to make games in a year and a half. Also, the idea is to make more money, not less. Most indie games don't sell a shit compared to big Sony AAA games.

And if they'd stop making AAA games, why would they want a powerful console?

Regarding course correction, doesn't make any sense to correct anything when they are better than ever and growing in basically all areas. The logical thing would be to continue with the strategy that is helping them to grow in all areas.

Return to being Sony 1994 and not Microsoft 2014.
They are in the market of 2024, not the one of 1994 or 2014. The games that sell are different and way more complex, so they require a lot of more work to be made.

And the Sony of 2024 is being way more successful than the Sony 1944 and Microsoft 2014 combined, and in a yearly pattern of growth in all areas. Which means that they will continue being even more successful in 2025, 2026, etc.
 
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Return to; high powered console at a reasonable price with quick turnaround games and reduced the dev time from 7 years to 18 months. The time to triangle this gen is a joke.
Rebuild the A/AA markets.
Revamp and resurrect old IPs instead of letting them sit dormant.


Return to being Sony 1994 and not Microsoft 2014.
Unfortunately, this is not the 90s, games have become technically more complex, and require more people, money (and this is without the inflation factor) and time.

But something really needs to be done about it, because when a direct continuation of GOW 2018 is made for 4 years, having already a ready technical base and assets, it looks strange. Also, when Sony puts all its eggs in the basket of naughty dog, insomniac and Guerrilla, and cuts the budgets of others, and even buries successful new IP (Days Gone says hello), it hurts the platform a lot and leads to the current situation, when there are no new ones on the horizon releases

PS: As for AA/AAA projects, I personally do not separate them. Budgets can be really different, but this does not greatly affect the quality of the final product.

For example, Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles are not AAA, but they look great. As you know, there were not the biggest budgets, although in their case there is a factor of reuse of content and assets, because these are not new IPs that have more than one game in the series. Or Sleeping Dogs with a $30m budget (apparently without marketing) still looks great and in many ways can compete with modern AAA (and the game is more than 10 years old). It's a shame that the players then behaved like pigs and a great game was drowned by poor sales.
 

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With the Pro coming and titles like GTA6, Monster Hunter, Judas, Marathon, Death Stranding, FairGame$, Venom in 2025 and Ghost2, Wolverine on the outlook nearby Switch 2.. Sony is aware. Let alone the gross of the titles that are still in development/unannounced. High fidelity gaming is not what I am expecting from Nintendo's next platform.

and folks saying Sony needs to go back to AA/Indies/quirky weird games drives me crazy, Jim Ryan filled this gap with the PS Indies initiative led by Shu Yoshida which has been delivering constantly this gen. Kena, Sifu, Stray, Tchia, Pacific Drive, Eternights, Volcano High, Season' A letter to the Future to name a few and with Plucky Squire, Babysteps & Little Devil Inside (?) on the outlook. Sony has been adding day one Indies to PS+ (extra).. it's so ironic that people complaining about this shows me that they haven't been playing the titles they are asking for LOL.

It's rather Xbox that should be worried with the Switch 2 if they go the handheld route.. cause no doubt Nintendo has the software pipeline ready, does Phil have his ready? His trackrecord works against him.
And Sony is coming full speed towards the live-service space which the younger gen gravitate to. We've seen how Helldivers 2 performed. With the free'd up budget of CoD marketing, will be interesting to see how Concord and Marathon gonna perform cause if they hit hard and take marketshare in the (this gen lacking) FPS space successfully, oh boy MS just spent 80 billion on CoD.

People tend to forget that kids age and will have different preferences in various stages and all this PC talk, you think majority of parents are going to get a (expensive) PC rig for their children? For the majority that's not in the cards, let's be realistic. Most important part of sustainability of a platform is fresh blood.
 
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This site is becoming a parody like xbox era
I can't tell if some of the posts here are joke or serious
The guy left sony in early 2018 or 2017 I don't remember
Good for him he's allowed to work anywhere he wants
Also some members here are always in stress and Constant fear I mean ps5 is doing great and the third-party support is great too
I feel some people here didn't witness sony in ps3 era I remember these dark days with no indie support terrible third-party support and everyone hated sony first party games and let's not forget the studios that sony closed like studio liverpool and the terrible marketing for sony first party games sony at that time was very close to leave the console market with the billions they lost at that time I remember the rumors about Apple entering the console market and we had articles every day about ps3 getting dreamcast treatment
Those were the dark days indeed
These days sony is doing great ps5 is their most successful console and people in the real world actually love the console I don't care about the manufactured hatred on twitter aka the land of fake bots accounts according to the owner elon musk and reddit which is known now most users left the site due to the heavy censorship and now reddit is full of fake ai accounts
And let's not forget sony biggest rival are going third-party and yes I don't believe these fake rumors that Ms will release new console soon
Anyway sorry for my long rant But some the posts here are stupid lol 😆
 

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PlayStation is now just the new Xbox, it's pretty easy to see, they took console fans for granted and are only interested in expanding to PC, mobile and show no respect for their traditional audience.

If you are someone that liked Xbox in the past 10 years you have nothing to fear.

This could easily be my last gen where I buy a PS5 and I'll definitely jump ship if the physical media market dies.

This site is becoming a parody like xbox era
I can't tell if some of the posts here are joke or serious
The guy left sony in early 2018 or 2017 I don't remember
Good for him he's allowed to work anywhere he wants
Also some members here are always in stress and Constant fear I mean ps5 is doing great and the third-party support is great too
I feel some people here didn't witness sony in ps3 era I remember these dark days with no indie support terrible third-party support and everyone hated sony first party games and let's not forget the studios that sony closed like studio liverpool and the terrible marketing for sony first party games sony at that time was very close to leave the console market with the billions they lost at that time I remember the rumors about Apple entering the console market and we had articles every day about ps3 getting dreamcast treatment
Those were the dark days indeed
These days sony is doing great ps5 is their most successful console and people in the real world actually love the console I don't care about the manufactured hatred on twitter aka the land of fake bots accounts according to the owner elon musk and reddit which is known now most users left the site due to the heavy censorship and now reddit is full of fake ai accounts
And let's not forget sony biggest rival are going third-party and yes I don't believe these fake rumors that Ms will release new console soon
Anyway sorry for my long rant But some the posts here are stupid lol 😆

It's not our job to cheer for Sony, they are to blame not fans.
 
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